RebNReno said:

lol- I’m a football first guy but if I was a basketball first guy I’d be furious too. This new basketball conference will be hot garbage too.
Maybe we can add some more sub 300 net teams like Sac State to fit right in with AFA and SJSU.

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Same here. I'm a casual basketball fan at best. Watch the Rebs and March Madness. That's it.

And you are correct.

The trickle down impact is going to be felt beyond football.

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I posted this on the confidential board:
I think we will wake up in the morning with UNLV in the PAC, but striking a deal with them to cover the exit fees. UNLV seems like they have the high ground for once in their existence. Maybe UNLV really did play this thing out right, maybe they just drove the dagger into the coffin. I don’t like the idea of sticking it out in the MW because of “money” now… it’s short sighted esp with the tv contract coming to an end in 2 years. There just isn’t enough out there to replace what was lost now that 5 schools have gone. The only issue is now that AAC said no, who else is going to join the remaining teams in the PAC? Let’s face it basketball will be dogs*** in the new MW, while PAC is actually looking decent with Gonzaga. Attendance will be even more abysmal playing against UTEP, Montana, etc. If Utah State stayed put I think a merger was the only option left for the PAC.

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reagan21 said:

good point.

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Hey look on the brightside guys! With BOISE/CSU/SDSU/USU out of the conference UNLV only has to beat out New Mexico to get an auto bid for basketball..We're on top again boys!

Also don't tell me you aren't looking forward to the electric atmosphere at the Mack when newest basketball only member of the MWC CAL STATE SAN LOSER ABYSMAL comes to town.

R3belnation said:

Also, has anyone mentioned that the PAC is in discussions with Gonzaga? That is being reported by the AP.

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Was reported briefly as done deal. Then shot down.

Still a possibility but might be on back burner until football mess is figured out.

Also, has anyone mentioned that the PAC is in discussions with Gonzaga? That is being reported by the AP.

I love how UNR isn't in any of this conversation. Screw 'em!

UNLV is clearly the top prize here. The facilities, the arenas, the market, and.. well... Vegas. It makes me wonder if UNLV is in the power position here and is being courted by more than one conference, waiting for the best offer

Meister_Rebel said:

Was this article already posted here? It says that AF may also reconsider and is in close contact with UNLV. With AF reconsidering then maybe the other option is the AAC. Still we should take the Pac12 if it is offered.

Pac-12 realignment talks: UNLV reconsiders decision amid chaotic day, per report

UNLV is reportedly reconsidering their decision to stay with the Mountain West following a chaotic day of conference realignment.

www.on3.com

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Not sure but it's the one I was alluding to.

Mojo702 said:

If UNLV turns down the PAC, I could see them offering Reno just to spite us

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I hope that happens just to show what a farce this whole temu 12 (stealing from masked rebel) bullshit has been.

Meister_Rebel said:

Well I'm guessing that it came out as we are exploring options is because the Pac12 turned us down when we went back this afternoon hat in hand and said we are sorry but can we get that invite again. We may be talking with the AAC. Either way staying in the MWC was the worst possible decision anyone could have made. Take the Pac12 if still available or call the AAC and see if they are still open for us.

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I think there was some merit (not a lot but some) in attempting to keep conference together..

UNLV was smart not to sign anything in blood with the MWC conference in case anybody else broke ranks.

USU broke.

PAC still needs an 8th if not 9th team to fill out football..

It's interesting that it's being reported that UNLV and AFA are in communication. What that means I don't know.

Package deal to AAC?

UNLV and AFA academy weighing worth of attempting to rebuild MWC with USU now gone?

If AFA changes course and joins AAC my hope is UNLV either follows or makes the jump to the PAC.

I cannot see any way and I don't care how much money it is, UNLV can think trying to rebuild the now 6 team MWC is a viable path forward.

But are you paying to go to the Temu 12 or are they paying... thats a big question no one is answering...if you're paying 18 million, you just got swindled

LINEBACKER_U said:

SDSU doesn't have any power. Money talks. If we make sense financially to the PAC 12 we will get an invite

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We did and turned it down and now are back in negotiations..

WarthogRebel said:

SDSU is blackballing us.

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SDSU doesn't have any power. Money talks. If we make sense financially to the PAC 12 we will get an invite

Was this article already posted here? It says that AF may also reconsider and is in close contact with UNLV. With AF reconsidering then maybe the other option is the AAC. Still we should take the Pac12 if it is offered.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

In a weird twist, could the AAC suddenly be in the mix?

Their was an article outlining that their commish might use Air Force and UNLV as a chip to help keep Memphis by bolstering the conference. Which is weird since it's two more mouths to feed...

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Well I'm guessing that it came out as we are exploring options is because the Pac12 turned us down when we went back this afternoon hat in hand and said we are sorry but can we get that invite again. We may be talking with the AAC. Either way staying in the MWC was the worst possible decision anyone could have made. Take the Pac12 if still available or call the AAC and see if they are still open for us.

WarthogRebel said:

Has anyone seen what the PAC wants for an exit fee?

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No, I've been wondering that also. In addition to that, what sort of timeframe would teams be committing to, and how long of notice is needed to leave?

Mojo702 said:

If UNLV turns down the PAC, I could see them offering Reno just to spite us

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I'll start a riot!

(Metaphorically speaking NSA in case your listening)

If UNLV turns down the PAC, I could see them offering Reno just to spite us

Meister_Rebel said:

Are we done exploring options now. Can we just please call the Pac12 and work on getting us in. No wonder the donors are pissed off the way we handle things. Gives the BOR another reason to say they need to hold our hand because we make stupid decisions. Staying in the MWC was the worst thing we could do.

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In a weird twist, could the AAC suddenly be in the mix?

Their was an article outlining that their commish might use Air Force and UNLV as a chip to help keep Memphis by bolstering the conference. Which is weird since it's two more mouths to feed...

Are we done exploring options now. Can we just please call the Pac12 and work on getting us in. No wonder the donors are pissed off the way we handle things. Gives the BOR another reason to say they need to hold our hand because we make stupid decisions. Staying in the MWC was the worst thing we could do.

calvegas04 said:

UNLV needs to make a move soon, PAC could just move on and offer some other school and then UNLV will be back to square one. And I'm not willing to bet on UNLV football staying hot over the next two years and going to the B12.

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I guess we aren't going to hear anything tonight. I can't believe we did what we did. We continue to hire dumb administrators. If the Pac12 gave us an invite and we turned it down for a few pieces of silver someone needs to get shit canned.

dcut03 said:

What happens when you stick around and the MW starts to finalize the next TV deal. You are playing chicken with exit fees.
You know they need a good faith estimate to lure teams in, and right now there is haste to solidify the conference with the PAC competing with you for final spots.
Pretty risky and we could be looking at more fees by sticking around. Layouts will be less but exit fees are often the vskue of the remaining contract

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My guess... if our doom and gloom outlook media package is around CUSA, the buyout probably isn't that high. Not sure there's much to lure with other than you're now in MWC... but yeah for both conferences it's a mess and not pretty.. only thing with sticking with MW, we know Gloria, we get $$$, and we're the top revenue receiver for a few years...