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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

Is it 30 to 40 million though? I haven't seen any report stating what UNLV was getting.

I get what you're saying though.

Unless you have assurances from the BIG12 that you are next to join in 2 years, you absolutely cannot stay in the MWC. I do not care how much money you get the MWC is dead and will fade into CUSA status.

Heck why is the PAC even bothering with UNLV at this point. Why not just go grab NMSU and be done with it. Or NMSU and UTEP and have 9 teams.

The reason is they see how little they bring to the table.

But people somehow think UNLV sitting on a boatload of cash will be just fine joining up with those same CUSA teams.
Why...
Because neither of those 2 programs is worth it for OSU and WSU and the 4 they sold on creating the best G5 conference in the West. They don't want to travel to El Paso and Las Cruces much like they didn't want to travel to Laramie or ABQ...
The reason why UNLV would be fine with it is the boat load of cash and a short term outlook with the P4 conversation being part of it.. if 10 million minimum guaranteed on top of fees from departures, you could potentially have 30 million in cash. That's a ton of money for a short term downgrade in schedule
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

They did have a confirmed 30 mil a year contract ready to go.
But at that point USC and Oregon, maybe the other 2, were talking to the B1G with 50+ mill per year on the table.
So they used the fact that the 30 mil/year wasn't good enough compared to other P5 leagues.
But that was just a way to stall and make it easier to leave.
This was WELL after USC and UCLA had announced their Big10 invite/acceptance
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

Is it 30 to 40 million though? I haven't seen any report stating what UNLV was getting.

I get what you're saying though.

Unless you have assurances from the BIG12 that you are next to join in 2 years, you absolutely cannot stay in the MWC. I do not care how much money you get the MWC is dead and will fade into CUSA status.

Heck why is the PAC even bothering with UNLV at this point. Why not just go grab NMSU and be done with it. Or NMSU and UTEP and have 9 teams.

The reason is they see how little they bring to the table.

But people somehow think UNLV sitting on a boatload of cash will be just fine joining up with those same CUSA teams.
Yeah, I get it, that's why I'm saying it would be a risky move. The PAC is somewhat risky also, depending on how much they're offering UNLV to leave the MWC. Are they offering to pay the full exit fee and penalties? Supposedly they only offered $2.5 million to Memphis, Tulane, etc from the AAC. I haven't seen much stating what the offer has been to UNLV. So we potentially go from getting 30-40 million, plus the money from the current MWC media deal ($4-5 million/year), to jumping into the PAC at a cost of $18 million, plus possibly giving up some of the media money from the MWC (Not sure how that works exactly). So you'd be looking at about 45-60 million dollar 'cost', depending on how everything shakes out.
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

In reality though, CKK's contract runs out in 2 years, at the same time these schools would be leaving. So UNLV would have a big chunk of money coming in that they could use to go after a big name coach. UNLV was a power school for years while playing in the Big West. I know we're a long ways away from returning to glory years, but 30-40 million would sure help towards that.

Is it 30 to 40 million though? I haven't seen any report stating what UNLV was getting.

I get what you're saying though.

Unless you have assurances from the BIG12 that you are next to join in 2 years, you absolutely cannot stay in the MWC. I do not care how much money you get the MWC is dead and will fade into CUSA status.

Heck why is the PAC even bothering with UNLV at this point. Why not just go grab NMSU and be done with it. Or NMSU and UTEP and have 9 teams.

The reason is they see how little they bring to the table.

But people somehow think UNLV sitting on a boatload of cash will be just fine joining up with those same CUSA teams.

UNLV Exploring Options After USU Joins PAC

As posted on my board:

"Ok, had my coffee, no new news (yet) on this debacle. So after consulting with insiders and a couple of deities, here's how it went down:
Teresa, who Friday said she was "swinging for the fences", thought she had Memphis, Tulane and who knows who in the AAC in the bag - apparently with a lame $2.5M offer to help with their $20M+ exit fees. Makes me wonder what we offered to the MW traitors in terms of exit fee help. Probably not much. She promised them that we had those schools lined up to form this "super G5" conference. She got played, as did the traitors by believing her.

Teresa F-ed up by not offering UNLV from the get-go. The Pac now holds no cards. UNLV has all the cards. The traitors must be screaming at her voicemail.

If UNLV bolts, we have an "OK" league of 8 teams. At a huge cost.

This Gonzaga talk is BS. We would give them a full share of mostly FB money in exchange for a share of their NCAA BB credits? All this revenue that Gonzaga brings beyond that goes to - Gonzaga. We won't share in their OOC game revenues or home game $ or anything else. NCAA credits are < FB revenues. Absolute stupidity.

Her single-minded desire to keep her job has screwed the pooch.

We should have just pushed the reverse merger from the beginning. Bringing in all of the MW would have been way better than the shitpile we have now.

Even if UNLV bolts, the Pac-2 Presidents need to go back to Gloria, call timeout, and go back to the MW and beg for the full merger. Even if that means we join the MW and lose our future $30M in BB credits. Helluva lot cheaper than what we are looking at now. And whichever way it goes, Gloria become Commissioner and Teresa gets a desk in the corner somewhere.

For 2025, WSU needs to go out and get (not my term) body bag games, starting with Ole Miss to bring in some extra money."
At least somebody understands how stupid this is and purely ego driven nonsense...

Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

Hear me out guys this isn't all bad.

Basketball is about to be good again. I mean with everybody out of the conference and only UNM to contend with.

Rebels should be dancing every year...
In reality though, CKK's contract runs out in 2 years, at the same time these schools would be leaving. So UNLV would have a big chunk of money coming in that they could use to go after a big name coach. UNLV was a power school for years while playing in the Big West. I know we're a long ways away from returning to glory years, but 30-40 million would sure help towards that.
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UNLV Exploring Options After USU Joins PAC

As posted on my board:

"Ok, had my coffee, no new news (yet) on this debacle. So after consulting with insiders and a couple of deities, here's how it went down:
Teresa, who Friday said she was "swinging for the fences", thought she had Memphis, Tulane and who knows who in the AAC in the bag - apparently with a lame $2.5M offer to help with their $20M+ exit fees. Makes me wonder what we offered to the MW traitors in terms of exit fee help. Probably not much. She promised them that we had those schools lined up to form this "super G5" conference. She got played, as did the traitors by believing her.

Teresa F-ed up by not offering UNLV from the get-go. The Pac now holds no cards. UNLV has all the cards. The traitors must be screaming at her voicemail.

If UNLV bolts, we have an "OK" league of 8 teams. At a huge cost.

This Gonzaga talk is BS. We would give them a full share of mostly FB money in exchange for a share of their NCAA BB credits? All this revenue that Gonzaga brings beyond that goes to - Gonzaga. We won't share in their OOC game revenues or home game $ or anything else. NCAA credits are < FB revenues. Absolute stupidity.

Her single-minded desire to keep her job has screwed the pooch.

We should have just pushed the reverse merger from the beginning. Bringing in all of the MW would have been way better than the shitpile we have now.

Even if UNLV bolts, the Pac-2 Presidents need to go back to Gloria, call timeout, and go back to the MW and beg for the full merger. Even if that means we join the MW and lose our future $30M in BB credits. Helluva lot cheaper than what we are looking at now. And whichever way it goes, Gloria become Commissioner and Teresa gets a desk in the corner somewhere.

For 2025, WSU needs to go out and get (not my term) body bag games, starting with Ole Miss to bring in some extra money."

UNLV Exploring Options After USU Joins PAC

That new AAC will have a lot of bloat, and with that many teams, with only a handful of upper end G5 football schools, there is a chance that the SOS tanks because all of the top teams will not be playing each other every year.
The PAC would be stronger top to bottom, much leaner, with a comparable amount of top teams. So I would say the PAC has an edge.
I hear ya… but I think there’s multiple strategies you can use to 1. Strengthen the schedules of your best teams and 2. Weaken the ability of the PAC to strengthen their SOS.

Ultimately if the MW were to merge with the AAC then that leaves little or no options for teams that the PAC can add without weakening their conference.

So much of SOS is at least initially based on perception. Perception is gonna be influenced by bias. Bias is gonna be influenced by familiarity. The AAC with a much larger footprint is gonna benefit from that. East coast bias anyone?

I mean, the whole thing is clusterf***, but I don’t think it’s as far fletched as it sounds.
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UNLV Exploring Options After USU Joins PAC

Not accepting the PAC invite must be about $$. Can’t imagine why else UNLV would conditionally commit to MWC. My guess is the PAC invite was without any $$ to help pay the MEC exit fee. Given UNLV’s financial position we unfortunately cannot make a decision based solely on quality of conference. This is a super high stakes game. Sure how Whitfield doesn’t give an ounce of allegiance to the MWC just bc he is the current chair.
yeah, agreed. And the more schools that leave the MWC, the bigger the pot of money gets. If, as a result of USU leaving, Air Force decides to go to the AAC, then that adds to the total pot of money that will be left for the remaining schools.

Hypothetically, lets say that there ends up being somewhere in the vicinity of $200 million worth of exit fees and penalties (if AF leaves), and there are only 5-6 schools remaining (Depending on how Hawaii is viewed), then the remaining schools could wait it out, collect the money, and then vote to dissolve the conference but with an extra 30-40 million each. It would be risky, because you don't know where you're going to end up, but the remaining schools would have to know that the next media deal wouldn't be close to as good as the current one.
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We are the backup plan?

“That’s the play honestly” says one athletic director with knowledge of the situation…

This article presumes(?) that the departing members get a vote on conference dissolution?

And apparently Hawaii gets a vote.
Everyone on X thinks they're experts on this, but most have no idea what they're talking about. If they were hoping to kill the conference, they should have brokered to get that done prior to announcing that they're leaving. Once they announce they're leaving, they lose their votes, just like the group of schools that left the PAC 12 originally.
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Does the offense wake up this week?

That’s exactly what it looks like to me and why I use the term slinger. There are successful quarterbacks that are like that, but they are usually throwers that can sling it when they need to, not full time slingers, if that makes sense.

With weird angles, it can lead to weird spins, trajectories, might get more of a dipping or curve effect (which you aren’t going to detect on TV well) … which in all means a tougher to handle ball. I’m not excusing the receivers at all, they’re good, they need to catch passes. And it’s no excuse for poor routes.
It does come out of his hand kinda funny. Like a rising fast ball that carries upward more that one might be used to or expecting.

This is something that I think can be adjusted on both ends. The more reps the WR's get with the Sluka, the more accustomed to how it looks coming at them. Also if Sluka consistently delivers it too high, he can adjust too.

It does seem that adrenaline is a factor. With his feet set he just puts too much into it. I think that has potential to improve over time as well.

Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

The Pac2+ does. They literally JUST did this 18 months ago. They tried to renegotiate and get AZ, AQSU, CO, and UT to stay with a $40M TV deal that did not exist. As bad as we think the MWC and UNLV is run, the Pac is worse.
They did have a confirmed 30 mil a year contract ready to go.
But at that point USC and Oregon, maybe the other 2, were talking to the B1G with 50+ mill per year on the table.
So they used the fact that the 30 mil/year wasn't good enough compared to other P5 leagues.
But that was just a way to stall and make it easier to leave.
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UNLV Exploring Options After USU Joins PAC

Expanding on it further…

I’d think a move like that could make the AAC the premier G5 league. With a little math and some scheduling tweaks you could almost guarantee your top team a spot in the CFP.

First you use some kind of math formula so that your best teams aren’t playing TOO many of your worst teams. Then setup your own 4 team playoff.

Split your league into East and West, then split the divisions into 5 team groups. Maybe those groups change year to year, but the East and west remains. I have no idea if any of that would work but if it’s possible you do it.

You also blackball the PAC from any of your top teams playing any of them.

And then when everyone is fast asleep in their comfy little beds you go burn down their headquarters and blame it on Idaho.
That new AAC will have a lot of bloat, and with that many teams, with only a handful of upper end G5 football schools, there is a chance that the SOS tanks because all of the top teams will not be playing each other every year.
The PAC would be stronger top to bottom, much leaner, with a comparable amount of top teams. So I would say the PAC has an edge.

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Shocking, this was the most people at a UNLV women's volleyball game.
Some, professional women's volleyball players where there to attend. Our, very own Vegas Thrill.
Shocking that we've never had 3,200 people show up to a volleyball match? Those are bonkers numbers.

I hope more people can make it out. Even if you don't know volleyball, as @RebelScrub would say while streaming a Desert Reign game from an iPad ca 2012, "are you not enterTAINED?!?!?!?"

We are an experienced and well coached squad. Hope to see more of you out there.

Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

The Pac2+ does. They literally JUST did this 18 months ago. They tried to renegotiate and get AZ, AQSU, CO, and UT to stay with a $40M TV deal that did not exist. As bad as we think the MWC and UNLV is run, the Pac is worse.
This is part of the reasoning for why UNLV is hesitant to jump and why other programs also were hesitant to jump.. The Pac 12 leadership isnt trustworthy and havent been in a position of power or trust for years. Promising TV deals that dont exist, like how stupid are we going to feel if the annual payout is actually around 5-7 million dollars (rumored what new MWC deal wouldve been) and we just paid 18 million to play the same teams for the same money. The deal was made as a way for the new commissioner to save her job and create a name for herself. Gloria is a know entity, she might have her faults, but the ADs apparently trust her and what her interests are. The 4 that jumped ship didnt jump ship because TV deals alone, they did it because 2 have been trying to pretend their a P5 school for a decade jumping ship at the first rumor of finally joining that club and the other 2 because the name sounds cooler than the MWC...
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