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ESPN ARTICLE DETAILING WHAT WENT DOWN

This pretty much explains how we got here.

And now it is Barry Odom's sworn duty to kick the @#$% $%@#$ @#$%& out of SDSU this year.

You'll understand when you read the quote.

UNLV was NEVER in the initial talks.

ALSO every school left should be able to dissolve based on lack of faith and ineptitude of commisioner.

You'll understand when you read this.

Threatcaster..

Remember that word..

Your head will spin.

After reading this article I hope the top 3 schools left in mwc go to the aac and it keeps all the aac teams from going to the pac12 and the pac12 blows up

…wasn’t the only reason.

I get the cities being large markets, but even in those cities, Tennessee and LSU are king. Just can’t imagine anyone would say ‘here’s another $20m per season since you got those 2 universities. I could be completely wrong however.

From your early post, I do agree that taking care of football is a priority, just thought a stronger basketball conference could help a little bit overall.

At the end of the day, we are not in a good postiition presently. Best thing we can do is continue to improve our standing by continuing to improve football. It’s unlikely we finish well enough to qualify for the playoffs, but doing so would go a long way obviously.

I'm maybe being a foolish optimist once again with UNLV, but I think a deal with the PAC is ultimately reached.

If applying odds to where this lands..

60% chance We end up in PAC

50-50 We end up in AAC along with AFA and possibly 2 other MWC schools to make up loss of Memphis and Tulane and get them to 16. (God I hope my math was right there)

20% Chance UNLV and remainder of MWC stand firm and conference does its own poaching to rebuild.

10% MWC/AAC go crazy and merge into a mega conference.

10% This goes completely sideways MWC dissolves and UNLV ends up in CUSA or some MWC/CUSA merger.

1% BIG12 happens.

Yeah I know that doesn't add up to 100% Math isn't my strong suit.
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…wasn’t the only reason.

Stop trying to build a conference with basketball only members. There's not going to be enough money to go around for the football schools, why bring in basketball only programs. Again, these media deals aren't being paid because basketball. If they don't have football, we don't have anything to give them.
Well the Big East (basketball only) just signed a deal worth $80m annually, so there certainly is some value. We wouldn’t be able to command that much, but I do think it would help a bit. Could be wrong though. Often am. Just was the reason behind my thinking there.
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…wasn’t the only reason.

Memphis has been solid football program for a bit now. Tulane more recently. Both are in pretty large markets.

Memphis has been rumored in the past for both ACC and I think Big12 even kicked the tires.

I think Cal/Stanford at least for the near future are staying put.
I get the cities being large markets, but even in those cities, Tennessee and LSU are king. Just can’t imagine anyone would say ‘here’s another $20m per season since you got those 2 universities. I could be completely wrong however.

From your early post, I do agree that taking care of football is a priority, just thought a stronger basketball conference could help a little bit overall.

At the end of the day, we are not in a good postiition presently. Best thing we can do is continue to improve our standing by continuing to improve football. It’s unlikely we finish well enough to qualify for the playoffs, but doing so would go a long way obviously.

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This is me sitting back.

I took a break from here to watch the volleyball game vs Hawaii. Hawaii is a damn good team. In a packed sold out COX pavilion with over 3000 fans we beat them. UNLV (6-2) and Hawaii (6-2) UNLV wins in 5 sets with the 5th set going to 15-13. Hell of a match.
Shocking, this was the most people at a UNLV women's volleyball game.
Some, professional women's volleyball players where there to attend. Our, very own Vegas Thrill.

…wasn’t the only reason.

If we are rebuilding the MWC, my first choice would be to probably try to get to 9 for football and attempt to get Gonzaga, St Mary’s and maybe Pepperdine or San Diego for basketball and other sports. I’d attempt to get UTSA and another Texas school (Texas St, Rice or N Texas) first. After that than I don’t think I’d look at the Dakota and/or Montana schools. NDSU is at least a name brand (relatively speaking) and would help at least a little with a new media deal.

That being said, if the ACC is able to make Clemson and Florida St happy and convince them to stay and stabilizes that conference, the new PAC becomes a stronger possibility. I do think the PAC will try to get to 9, so even if Memphis and Tulane join them, then it would still leave them a school shy (without the possibility of Cal/Stanford coming back) and I think we’d make the most sense in that scenario. Who knows though. These things change daily it seems. Personally, I’m not sure why Memphis and Tulane are all that appealing. Can’t imagine it would improve any media deal that much and would suck for those 2 schools logistically.

Memphis has been solid football program for a bit now. Tulane more recently. Both are in pretty large markets.

Memphis has been rumored in the past for both ACC and I think Big12 even kicked the tires.

I think Cal/Stanford at least for the near future are staying put.
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…wasn’t the only reason.

If we are rebuilding the MWC, my first choice would be to probably try to get to 9 for football and attempt to get Gonzaga, St Mary’s and maybe Pepperdine or San Diego for basketball and other sports. I’d attempt to get UTSA and another Texas school (Texas St, Rice or N Texas) first. After that than I don’t think I’d look at the Dakota and/or Montana schools. NDSU is at least a name brand (relatively speaking) and would help at least a little with a new media deal.

That being said, if the ACC is able to make Clemson and Florida St happy and convince them to stay and stabilizes that conference, the new PAC becomes a stronger possibility. I do think the PAC will try to get to 9, so even if Memphis and Tulane join them, then it would still leave them a school shy (without the possibility of Cal/Stanford coming back) and I think we’d make the most sense in that scenario. Who knows though. These things change daily it seems. Personally, I’m not sure why Memphis and Tulane are all that appealing. Can’t imagine it would improve any media deal that much and would suck for those 2 schools logistically.

It looks like ACC thing might be resolved.

I'll be honest, and I know this is blasphemous on these boards but I would 100% get football taken care of first and then figure out potential basketball additions afterwards.

I don't disagree or think your idea is bad or wrong but football is driving all this shuffling.

Plus does Gonaga want to even leave. That's already a decent basketball conference. I'm not sure about their media deal.
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…wasn’t the only reason.

NIU would be great but would they want that travel?

Agree I think 2 FCS schools might be too many.

Stealing from yours a bit.

UNLV
RENO
USU
WYO
UH
UNM
SJSU

Plus (I'm sticking with Tulsa trying to keep some regionalism)

TULSA
N TEXAS (Or Texas State)
LA Tech
ND STATE (OR MONTANA)
RICE
If we are rebuilding the MWC, my first choice would be to probably try to get to 9 for football and attempt to get Gonzaga, St Mary’s and maybe Pepperdine or San Diego for basketball and other sports. I’d attempt to get UTSA and another Texas school (Texas St, Rice or N Texas) first. After that than I don’t think I’d look at the Dakota and/or Montana schools. NDSU is at least a name brand (relatively speaking) and would help at least a little with a new media deal.

That being said, if the ACC is able to make Clemson and Florida St happy and convince them to stay and stabilizes that conference, the new PAC becomes a stronger possibility. I do think the PAC will try to get to 9, so even if Memphis and Tulane join them, then it would still leave them a school shy (without the possibility of Cal/Stanford coming back) and I think we’d make the most sense in that scenario. Who knows though. These things change daily it seems. Personally, I’m not sure why Memphis and Tulane are all that appealing. Can’t imagine it would improve any media deal that much and would suck for those 2 schools logistically.
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This is me sitting back.

I took a break from here to watch the volleyball gave vs Hawaii. Hawaii is a damn good team. In a packed sold out COX pavilion with over 3000 fans we beat them. UNLV (6-2) and Hawaii (6-2) UNLV wins in 5 sets with the 5th set going to 15-13. Hell of a match.
Now that’s an actual great time

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Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Isn’t this fun?
This is me sitting back.

I took a break from here to watch the volleyball game vs Hawaii. Hawaii is a damn good team. In a packed sold out COX pavilion with over 3000 fans we beat them. UNLV (6-2) and Hawaii (6-2) UNLV wins in 5 sets with the 5th set going to 15-13. Hell of a match.
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