Former Mullen recruit at Florida I believe. Doesnt appear to have played much.

I have no idea. I would love to expect a win, but with all of the turmoil?

PAC is dead, just adding MWC does nothing in football out side of BSU and Gonzaga/Aztecs in hoops.
Is PAC better then the new MWC yes not close. B12 is the goal, or it's slow death

Considering their TE also just committed to UNLV I wouldn't be surprised.

I see this game having the same results as the West Virgina / Memphis game last night. There are a lot of parallels. Ranked G5 vs 6-6 P4. G5 wins a close one.

UNLV 35
Cal 28

Meister_Rebel said:

Ochoa needs backups.

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What do you see in Ochoa? Think he has a better shot of playing if he follows Marion to Sac State.

Rebel_Luv said:

This is very underwhelming if this is our guy in 2025.

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Was he recruited by Mullen at Florida? Had a pretty good year in 2022 for the first time as a starter in SEC and then hasnt played since really. Guess he spent 2 years at Oregon as a backup and didnt play?

UNLV 45
Cal 17

Our offense comes out more motivated

UNLV 34
Cal 28

Meister_Rebel said:

No. I saw the rankings before Odom departed. They and OSU were both ranked ahead of us. We were ahead of BSU as well.

And true the rankings have to be adjusted now when coaches leave and commits bail.

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I read the same rankings, and while Oregon State was ahead of UNLV, Washington State wasn't. On 247 UNLV has an average ranking of 85.23 with 14 recruits (this includes 2 unranked players), and Washington State has an average of 84.81 with 23 recruits.

RebelinWA said:

I’d throw in Idaho. They struggled so much that they went back to FCS.

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They were D1 from 1917 to 2017, they never were FCS until 2018.

Rebel1986 said:

That is because they had a lot more recruits after UNLV lost 5-7 to Odom, and there are also 3 UNLV recruits that currently do not have a ranking which artificially lowers the class ranking. Look at the top 10 and UNLV has far better players. UNLV has multiple 5.6 and 5.7 ranked players, Wazzu has zero 5.7 ranked players.

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No. I saw the rankings before Odom departed. They and OSU were both ranked ahead of us. We were ahead of BSU as well.

And true the rankings have to be adjusted now when coaches leave and commits bail.

dcut03 said:

Historically that isn't true. There have been a few exceptions, but typically FCS team making the jump struggle. Most of them are near the top of FCS before they make the jump and all of them have jumped to much easier conferences. The MW will be bad, but I don't think it will be Sun Belt and C USA bad.

the one not listed here is the most recent call up Kennessaw St which went 2 -10 this year

How Have Former FCS Teams Performed After Transitioning To The FBS?

Here are the teams that have jumped to the FBS since 2008 and their records as FBS programs for each season.

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I’d throw in Idaho. They struggled so much that they went back to FCS.

Meister_Rebel said:

That sucks. Per On3 their recruiting class was a lot better than ours. Per the ranking.

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That is because they had a lot more recruits after UNLV lost 5-7 to Odom, and there are also 3 UNLV recruits that currently do not have a ranking which artificially lowers the class ranking. Look at the top 10 and UNLV has far better players. UNLV has multiple 5.6 and 5.7 ranked players, Wazzu has zero 5.7 ranked players.

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But ok isn’t good enough. You can’t have one good player and the rest as non-decript guys that could start in the lower MWC or ride pine in the upper MWC. We have a lot of players that do one thing pretty well but are shockingly bad at the other 6 parts of the game. You can’t build a team on those guys. We do.

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You could build a team on these players if you had a coach who could coach up the players. Ask Odom how much better the same players that Arroyo recruited got with good coaching.

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This is very underwhelming if this is our guy in 2025.

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Ochoa needs backups.

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Remember, we’re going to need at least 2 QB’s. I doubt this is “The Guy”.

This is very underwhelming if this is our guy in 2025.

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InZoneU said:

I said all along we should add NDSU, SDakSt, and both Montana's as they would have no problem competing in the MWC and make the conference more competitive.

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Historically that isn't true. There have been a few exceptions, but typically FCS team making the jump struggle. Most of them are near the top of FCS before they make the jump and all of them have jumped to much easier conferences. The MW will be bad, but I don't think it will be Sun Belt and C USA bad.

the one not listed here is the most recent call up Kennessaw St which went 2 -10 this year

Hope we can keep Burrell. Love how he runs and was only a freshman.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

More I look into some of their viewership numbers, I don't think they would negatively impact a future media deal.

Minimum I'd like to get NDSU.

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Do you have anything more than the one game that was on ESPN 2?

IT is hard to exrapolate too much from that one game. I mean ESPN 2 will get a bunch of ratings simply because it is ESPN 2. Nearly every sports bar in the country is going to have it on by default. And yes, those count for ratings. That game was the 5th least watched game on ESPN2 this season out of ~ 75 games.

And that was the potentially 2 best teams in the FCS going against each other a really big game for both of them.

Truth is The greater Las Vegas area has a larger population than the entire state of Montana and the 2 Dakotas COMBINED.

I just can't see how adding them won't hurt the bottom line.

Adding just one? Preferably NDSU? Maybe, just to give NIU a partner.

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