Yessir. That’s why I’m all done methinks. Won’t even follow the university news. Also will cancel my LVRJ membership since I won’t need sports news other than knights. Definitely stopping my donations
Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC
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It's all about perspective. Boise State is pissed with the addition of USU. In their eyes, they've been fleeced and out negotiated by the MWC Commish
I've been donating to the Lady Rebel Basketball team. I might start donating a little to football. I get where you are coming from but, I can't abandon my Rebels. I've been following them for +50 years. I wouldn't know how to stop following them.
We should have been talking with USU. We only should have signed if they agreed to do the same.
This only made sense if the MW held strong. Them taking USU means they only need one more.
Even so that is risky. Even if the MW shut them out, I think they still find a way to fill their league. And we kind of burn a bridge there.
This only made sense if the MW held strong. Them taking USU means they only need one more.
Even so that is risky. Even if the MW shut them out, I think they still find a way to fill their league. And we kind of burn a bridge there.
He won't be there long enough to win. Bronco is not in it like he used to be. He was living on his Montana Ranch loving life. Great guy. Good coach, but he's been dealt a 2, 5, 7, 10, and A
They've shown they can fill the league...but with what? I'm telling you SDSU, Boise, and Fresno are pissed. They were told USF, Memphis, and Tulane and will now get USU and ????
Agree. Theres no way the TV deal gets into that 7-10 million dollar range with who is available. They got sold a national conference with appeal and potential to argue they are a P5.. now they're a Temu version of the Pac 12...
I get that, their bottom line will be hurt.
But ours is hurt significantly more. OK so now they are getting 8 mil a year, we will be getting 3 if we are lucky.
And now we are hoping UTEP and NMSU wants to join. And hope to coax Montana to elevate, and we have to pay 5 mil to do so.
The op of their league is significantly stronger, plus they will be strong in the NCAA tournament if the Gonzaga report is true.
I just think we chose the wrong option, and I think the decision was obvious.
The fact that we shut the door on the AAC is also dumb. Sure the travel would have sucked, but we had some leverage with 3 conferences courting us, and we took the least amount of annual money.
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if it was 12 with Memphis and Tulane, I don't think the pendulum swings that hard the other way. I think they are looking at about 8 mil per year.
Look at all the money that the PAC2 has and how quickly they are spending it to survive. That money will not change the condition of the MWC.
They shall forever be know as the Temu 12.
I give zero poops what the PAC may or may not make.
What I care about is how little UNLV may end up making.
Like I said earlier.
Let's say UNLV is getting 30 million dollar lump sum.
If media deal drops from 5 million per school to 3 million per (And that might be generous considering what MWC will look like now)
That's 2 million less per year over the next say 5 years.
That's 10 million off the top of that 30 million.
Want to lock up Odom. Probably another Million a year.
We're down to 15.
What are attendance numbers going to look like when the Home conference schedule is Sac State, UTEP, NMSU, WYO?
Have to imagine that takes a hit creating another shortfall.
That money dries up pretty damn quick.
It doesn't have to though. It just has to be better than current MWC deal. Because ours is certainly getting worse don't you think?
I believe nothing they say. The Pac12 deal (before Colorado left) was said to be $40M/....it was nowhere NEAR that. MWC will get all the exit and poaching fees, and the share of the NCAA tournament/CFP money this season and next. It's going to be close to $25M-$40M/school to just stay for the next two seasons.
They will be paying $55 million in poaching fees. The 5 leaving will be paying us about $18 million each which is about $90 million. Then we keep the 5 schools media revenue distribution for the next 2 years which will come out to about $25 million or more.
Total monies as a result of the 5 schools leaving about $170 million.
All that money and we are stuck in a weaker conference imo.
The condition of the MWC is significantly worse if USU walks.
Our deal is locked in for the next 2 years. It's the traitor/exit fee money that is huge.
I would expect that. You’ve seen true greatness. I’ve seen a Harvard business study on how not to run a university in its entirety, for the last decade.
But its not a long term commitment.... Playoff path is easier, you turn your basketball program into a success.. 5 years from now Big 12 media deal is open for negotiations... That's why it makes sense... and thats 30 million possibly on top of departure fees, so add another 14 million plus and growing... thats a lot of money to play with
Ok but after that then what.
I can't see Odom staying to coach in this conference if it gets flooded with FCS schools or CUSA schools.
I can't see it.
Joined the Rebel family in 2015, but historically you’re absolutely right
Bull, take that $30M and give it to @bcvegaspt2. He'll guarantee 41% returns for the next 10 years.
I hate to break it to you, but he wasnt long for this conference either way... This cash we can sign a large extension with a huge buyout... That way we get good money in return
I’d say just wait and see how this all plays out. If it’s a 2 year thing, I don’t think it’s horrible to see where the football program is at that point. I’m sure the PACis negotiating high exit fees. Might be hard to leave twice if say the Big 12 were to call calling. Don’t think it’s necessarily ideal where we are at, just don’t think it’s horrible (as of now). Best guess is this leads to the original merger that was planned. Guess we’ll see
As usual, I have no insider information. However, let us say that UNLV takes the money from the MWC defector payouts, the money that UNLV will get for winning the first round of the college football playoff, the money that UNLV will get from losing to Utah in the second round of the playoff, and the money that would have been used for the MWC exit fee and invests it in the football program, paying Odom 6 million dollars per year for the next 7 years and each coordinator 1 million per year. How would this position UNLV for the next round of the Big 12 expansion?
Maybe y'all have never been to Logan, UT. It's beautiful for 6 months/year but it's way north of SLC and is more considered part of Southern Idaho than Northern UT/SLC metro area. It's known for it's "squeaky cheesy" for heaven's sake.
It adds $0 to their TV deal. No value at all. Their only value is they are 1 team closer to getting a conference championship game.
It adds $0 to their TV deal. No value at all. Their only value is they are 1 team closer to getting a conference championship game.
And if he wasn't long for it here who else will want to be.
He took over when UNLV was in a top G5 conference. He recognized the potential.
UNLV will no longer be in a top G5 conference. Who will be motivated to come to the West Coast equivalent of the Sun Belt?
I wish I shared your optimism that this will all work itself out and UNLV will be fine..
Unfortunately I can't see it.
You're one of my favorite posters on here,
But at this moment your optimism makes me think Scrub told you it was a regular gummy.
I took my hydroxyzine at lunch instead of at night....true story.
I'll be a different man tomorrow.
Two years from now, those traitor schools will be going to the PAC. UNLV contract also over and we can go to any conference we want but with a boatload of cash. 21 months I think to be exact.
