I also think that Jaden might want to stick around for the bowl game.
The shine has dulled on him the past couple of games, he might need a stronger showing to increase his prospects if he actually wants to leave.
Maiava in the portal
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The shine has dulled on him the past couple of games, he might need a stronger showing to increase his prospects if he actually wants to leave.
That is what it says.
Would rather know early.
You cant do that with the talent floating around in the portal. If you intend to go to a bigger school and get a bigger NIL deal out of it, you have to keep up with everyone else. They are after you because of a few bad games, they're after you because of the skill set you showed throughout the entire season. Hes a very talented freshman and other schools(the ones with $$ to pay up worth transferring for) will bet on that talent increasing and freshman mistakes decreasing with better overall talent on the team around him.
I wish him luck, great yr, he better pick right school, he's not polish passer, against better quicker defenses he's not quick enough of runner. If school giving him 2 million take it and run with it!
I don't know.
We picked up portal players as late as the summer last year. A little different for QBs of course. Want to be there for the spring.
I am also sure he has been in contact with schools without officially being in the portal. Once you enter, you are ineligible to play, correct? He still might have a deal in priciple but still wants to play in this game.
It is possible he still likes UNLV and Las Vegas and wants to do us a solid.
Maybe they left his gf at the curb at the airport, ala Pitino.
I admittedly didn’t watch much UNLV football this season but from what I saw of this kid I feel like UNLV is his ceiling. He’s not going to be QB1 next year at many P5 schools and I can’t see any P5 schools racing to the Portal to get him to be their QB1, maybe a depth guy but I doubt that is the situation he is looking for. I think If he leaves it’s because he’s been recruited over and will end up at a UNLV caliber school.
Thats a really poor description of his skill set and talent.... If you didnt watch then Im assuming you just watched the last couple weeks, admittedly, some of his worse play all year.
Just because a kid doesn't stick around and enters the portal, doesn't mean he isnt talented and trying to say he isnt looks like sour grapes. As a RS freshman he threw for 2800 yards and 14 TDs. He ran a very complicated offense efficiently and admittedly against probably some of his better skill sets. He wasn't a prolific runner, but he is a very talented passer. in 2 or 3 years he will have a very high ceiling as he gets better. This wasnt just a lucky run. If he isnt sticking around, we dont know how the future at the position will be, however, with him, we knew what we had and you could see his growth and potential. Id rather have a QB that develops for years with his limitations than to be searching every year for the next starter. If this offseason is any indication, Marion probably isnt around next year, but Maiava very well could've been. Who knows what the future holds, but lets not pretend his ceiling was "UNLV"...
I'm not asking this to be combative. Curious.
What 4-8 or 5-7 current P5 school would Maiava have made bowl eligible? This season.
Even next season, what school is he the missing piece to get over the hump?
I think he is good, potentially very good. I don't know if he is P4 program changing good though.
I wish kid all luck in the world, but if P5 offering him 2 million they haven't watch him play, OSU 11-1 are so happy McCord is leaving, you talk about expectations there, Maiava not even close to passer like McCord, MWC is bottom league. Good luck to him.
I don't think he's program changing--but he's young with a full season of starting and winning at a place that doesn't ever do that. If you can develop him--a little better arm strength or a little better acceleration or both and he could make you dangerous with a solid supporting cast.
I don't begrudge anyone living their lives for themselves. I hope whatever JM decides he finds happiness and success and would thank him for the magical year. I'd he happier if he stayed, but I sort of believe that Odom has pretty open eyes in the current NCAA market and has had a plan for this in place.
He didn't need to make a P5 bowl eligible this season. He made us bowl eligible, not a lot of P5s are starting redshirt freshman unless theyre at the level of like Bryce Young or Trevor Lawrence... Im not saying hes anywhere near that level.
As for the next few years, what program does he change or is the missing piece, I dont know, Im not a coach looking into the tools that the QB has and what my program needs. If I was a coach looking for a QB that I want to develop, I sure know hes got a lot of intangibles that you want. Does he make mistakes, yeah, hes got a lot of inexperience and pressed a lot especially the past 2 weeks. But hes also very smart, he made really good throws, ran the offense very effectively. Selling that short of a freshman is very unfair. Also, Im not saying hes program changing good at the P4 level. But the talent all around at P4 programs that are needing QBs is in more case better than what we had here this year. Does he get a Ricky White type WR where he ends up? I dont know, but I know what I saw with my eyes.
Also I dont think anyone is throwing a million dollars at him, so lets not get carried away into what I think his ceiling is.... Thats what the kids leaving OSU, Miami, KSU are getting to go try and win a NC next season.
I don't think he'd get top end NIL money, but he'd get a lot more than here at places like Iowa and Penn State who were dying for an accurate thrower and some better QB play. Mid 6 figure NILs are still life changing to some families and this deal isn't going to last forever in its current iteration.
100% agree with this. I do think JM could be program changing for UNLV if he chooses to stay and develops into what we think he could be. For that reason I’d like to see him stay along with having some consistency. Prefer not to be in the portal fight every year for our QB1. But if he chooses to go, then all the best to him.
Totally get it. I don't begrudge anyone in that regard.
I'm simply asking what P4 program would he elevate?
As for developing him. Sure definitely possible, I think he has room to improve. But in this day and age of the portal, coaches really aren't afforded that. If they go grab you in the portal it's with the hopes you can contribute now vs in 3 or 4 years.
DJ left Oregon State. Say Maiava went there next year and the majority of the team stays intact. Is Maiava going to match what DJ did?
Ohio State QB just entered portal. Is Maiava leading Ohio State to an 11-1 season?
Is Michigan State suddenly a contender?
A ton of QBs entered the portal today. Guys with pretty solid production at P4 programs.
Now take Maiava and any of them and ask would UNLV be better with Maiava or that guy and vise versa.
I think you would go pretty far down the list before you felt comfortable saying I'd rather have Maiava.
It's not a knock on Maiava, there's just a lot of talented dudes out there.
If they aren’t super enthused to block for him on the 26th, you may have your answer.
Which is I wish players and assistants would leave crap alone until a season ends.
Pete Nakos, the one that tweeted out the Maiava news has deleted the tweet. 247 still has Maiava as in the portal right now. Crazy times.
I don’t see anything official regarding a portal move, I would think JM would announce it first. Either way, this is how CFB goes especially for good teams in a G5. Boise lost their QB as well. It’s business, money, brand exposure etc. I have a lot of respect for JM for leading the team to championship game and a bowl game.
If he’s got a deal that can help his family and play somewhere where he’s not being showcased on the dinky MW network webcast and instead it’s ESPN, CBS, Fox etc. then he’s got to make the move. I’m not going to hold it against him. Nothing is guaranteed in this game, I mean you look at Doug and how returning from the portal turned out for him.
As for UNLV, I have to think Marion and Odom have a list of guys they’ll bring in and might bring in anyway regardless of what JM does. There’s several dual threat QBs in the portal and more will hit the portal. A lot of intriguing names like Matthew Sluka.
If he’s got a deal that can help his family and play somewhere where he’s not being showcased on the dinky MW network webcast and instead it’s ESPN, CBS, Fox etc. then he’s got to make the move. I’m not going to hold it against him. Nothing is guaranteed in this game, I mean you look at Doug and how returning from the portal turned out for him.
As for UNLV, I have to think Marion and Odom have a list of guys they’ll bring in and might bring in anyway regardless of what JM does. There’s several dual threat QBs in the portal and more will hit the portal. A lot of intriguing names like Matthew Sluka.
No, he's not a guy that a top 10 program is looking to hand the ball to make them title winners. And if there's anyone for whom he's an instant game changer, they probably weren't good enough to challenge for the playoff. But the kid starting for Iowa had 49.6% accuracy and 4.5 yards an attempt, and even at the jump up I think he'd have better numbers than that. But I also don't think he's that gets Iowa past Michigan if that makes sense.
Ok so let’s she where he ends up, as mentions already Oregon, Washington, Ohio State to name a few need QBs. He isn’t going there so where can he play next year that’s better than UNLV? What is his ceiling if it’s not UNLV?
I'm happy to have him here.
I haven't sold him short at all. I've regularly acknowledged what he did as a freshman is impressive.
Yes talent around him would likely be better. So would the defenses across from him in most cases so that essentially becomes a wash.
He had the arguably the best WR in the MWC going against MWC defenses.
If Ricky White is NFL ready (as some contend) then he would likely be the best WR at most P4 schools. So Maiava had an NFL level WR going against lesser MWC defenses. He wouldn't have the luxury that talent gap at a P4 necessarily.
I think he is a more than capable if not very good Qb right now, that has potential to be even better. How much better? Up to him and his coaches.
If he went to ASU for example, how much better will they be? If his ceiling is greater than UNLV, which you are contending what do you feel that ceiling is?
He's 'that guy' here. I'm not sure at a larger program he would be. At least not yet.
I guess I'm not understanding his ceiling is greater than UNLV but he's not a difference maker a level up.
Would he though? Against Big10 defenses week in and week out. I don't know. Maybe? That doesn't all fall on the QB, just like not all of the things that went wrong for Maiava this season were on him either.
Iowa went 10-3 this year, and played in the title game. Are they better than that with Maiava? I don't know..Maybe?
Maiava definitely is good enough as we've seen to help change the fortunes of UNLV.
At the next level up could he do it? That's what I'm not sure about.
Talent development. Ok, so if you don't see him getting any better than this year, does that make 9-3 at a G5 his ceiling and does that get him drafted? Thats what I mean by ceiling and potential. I feel he has the potential to develop into something really special.
Call it a hunch and that to me means that going to a P5 school where he gets developed with better coaching, better staffs, and has better talent around him turns him into an even better caliber QB than a 9-3 G5. Your original comment brushed aside any potential he has as if UNLV was his only shot at being special and my comment was that sells his talent and potential short.
Call it a hunch and that to me means that going to a P5 school where he gets developed with better coaching, better staffs, and has better talent around him turns him into an even better caliber QB than a 9-3 G5. Your original comment brushed aside any potential he has as if UNLV was his only shot at being special and my comment was that sells his talent and potential short.
Agreed. I don’t get why the NCAA opens the portal before bowls. It undercuts the bowls.
Sound like Maiava staying and Marion is whoring around.
No, I said I felt he could get better but he had things that needed to get cleaned up.
I've said I think he can be very good at this level.
You're contention was UNLV was not his ceiling. So if his ceiling is higher than UNLV what P5 school is looking at him as the guy next year?
If you are going after a portal QB you are likely looking for a guy to compete for a job. Or at minimum supply a security blanket.
So what school would be looking at Maiava as an upgrade or as a starter next season?
As for him being drafted? Way too soon to even be talking about that.
Glad to see it but Marion’s post comes across a bit scripted and forced. Wonder if he was behind a potential transfer for JM and was volun-told to clear it up publicly?
Wasn't referring to your comments. You've been fair to discuss the points with. I don't know what P5 school wants a young talented QB, I'm not even saying they're bringing him in to start next year because P5 schools bring in multiple 4 or 5 stars prospects yearly or transfers to compete... But I do think he most certainly has the talent to be good and a starter at a bigger name school which is why you'd transfer.
The original comment response was towards the analysis that having not watched much, UNLV was probably the best he can do, that hed be recruited over, so transferring would be a waste for him ... that's all.
The original comment response was towards the analysis that having not watched much, UNLV was probably the best he can do, that hed be recruited over, so transferring would be a waste for him ... that's all.
Hopefully this means both Marion and Maiava are staying for at least another year
Easiest simplest way to put it.
Are there more P4 QBs currently that could come to UNLV and duplicate or exceed what Maiava did here? Or more schools Maiava could transfer to and be an immediate upgrade to what is already there or available in the portal?
I don't know.
After one season there's a lot to like. I just don't know what his actual ceiling is yet.
Are there more P4 QBs currently that could come to UNLV and duplicate or exceed what Maiava did here? Or more schools Maiava could transfer to and be an immediate upgrade to what is already there or available in the portal?
I don't know.
After one season there's a lot to like. I just don't know what his actual ceiling is yet.
I dont know if Marion is welcome back after the UTEP sleep over? I have nothing concrete but my feeling is that Coach O already called someone.
I was trying to be positive and not say the same thing as you, but I agree. It seems very scripted. Couple of people messaged me on twitter and thought it was a weird tweet.
