Loyal Coug1 said:

Not that I want to see the MW dissolve, but if they did wouldn't the money be distributed pro-rata to all the schools? And the NCAA money would go (I think?) to the schools that earned the credits? And I wonder if the 4 (and counting) traitors would share in the money since they are still in the conference?

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Masked_rebel said:

The argument could be made that those 2 schools prevented the larger group from creating a more profitable conference affecting their bottom lines and those programs dont have the same resources to challenge the way the Pac 2 did. Part of the Pac 2s argument was the withdrawl of the rest of the teams was done before they had been in open negotiations for the conference rights and that caused them to not be able to secure those figures in away to keep things from falling apart. Since the 4 are openly leaving at this point, thats not part of the conversation, so the remaining teams with a place to go but dont want to or have the $ to pay the fee could argue the conference currently doesnt have a viable path to profitability and as such should dissolve.

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WarthogRebel said:

I don't see how you dissolve if two can stay and collect all the money. Wouldn't it be 10 x $ 17 mil + $ 10 mil for every school that goes to the PAC? Well over $ 200 mil. That's 14+ years worth of MW media rights per school.

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Loyal Coug1 said:

I like your point about fundraising to pay the exit fee. We don't know to what extent the Pac-2 will help with the exit fees - this is a huge key for all involved. But whether it's $17M or $10M or whatever, seems like a targeted campaign to raise the money would have appeal. I don't donate much to anything, and really don't like giving money for unknown uses. If approached with hey - we need $XM to pay this particular fee, a one-time commitment, then I might get the checkbook out.

On another note, I think the MW has 4 years to figure things out. For the next 2 years you are still a 12-team conference. 7/1/26 is when the 2-year grace period would kick in. In my understanding anyway. So much as I didn't like what the Pac just did, at least it gives the MW plenty of notice and time to retrench.

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dcut03 said:

But here is the thing.

By dissolving you potentially forgo all of the exit fees and the NCAAT money.

The Majority of the leftovers are looking at 1-2 mil per year. Regardless of what happens. If they keep some semblance of the MW together, they will have all of that money to work with. They could use that to rebuild or perhaps keep it and try a merger with the CUSA or something.

But by dissolving they just give up that money which is substantial. I just don't see it.

Sure UNLV and AFA would love that. Without the exit fees they are prime to be picked up somewhere, the other schools? Not so much.

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WYNN or Dye said:

Is, this a play on words?
AAC.

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Rosegreen1 said:

The rumor isn’t attached to Harper but at the same time he needs to create some leverage. Im pretty certain the PAC doesn’t want the AAC to be in their backyard/the west.

To me, having some reporters say unlv is on the phone with AAC serves two purposes. Leverage and gaming out a plan B.

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Rosegreen1 said:

The media deal runs until 2030, each school currently gets more than double what our media deal is currently. The next MWC tv deal will be similar to the CUSA at 750k a school. We can’t afford that.

By the way, with a move to the AAC, we are probably back on the Big Monday showcase.

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Loyal Coug1 said:

Not that I want to see the MW dissolve, but if they did wouldn't the money be distributed pro-rata to all the schools? And the NCAA money would go (I think?) to the schools that earned the credits? And I wonder if the 4 (and counting) traitors would share in the money since they are still in the conference?

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dcut03 said:

But here is the thing.

By dissolving you potentially forgo all of the exit fees and the NCAAT money.

The Majority of the leftovers are looking at 1-2 mil per year. Regardless of what happens. If they keep some semblance of the MW together, they will have all of that money to work with. They could use that to rebuild or perhaps keep it and try a merger with the CUSA or something.

But by dissolving they just give up that money which is substantial. I just don't see it.

Sure UNLV and AFA would love that. Without the exit fees they are prime to be picked up somewhere, the other schools? Not so much.

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dcut03 said:

Meh.

Air Force is a national name, just by being an academy. It isn't super strong, but at least it is national.

Utah State is a distant 3rd fiddle to Utah and BYU, in a state with 3.38 million people. Not sure if it is worth it. Utah is a national brand now, and BYU is national and is the default University of LDS. Like Notre Dame is to Catholics.

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LVRebel2000 said:

Yeah, that's what I've been wondering also. I wouldn't think the departing schools would have to pay until they actually leave, but I don't have the contract to verify that. If that's the case, it wouldn't be for 2 more years, right?

For the longevity of the MWC, I think the real question is regarding the media deal. From what I can see, the current deal runs through the 2025/2026 season. So basically, the rest of this school year, then all of next. However, I'm sure that the conference would be in negotiations with the media groups much earlier to start working out the details of an extension, or a new contract.

That would put the MWC in a tough spot for negotiations. 4 of the bigger schools have put in notice to leave, so the new contract would likely be quite a bit lower than the current one. This may be where UNLV and the other schools have the ability to vote to break up the conference. If, hypothetically, the remaining MWC get a new media deal offer than caps out at $1,000,000 a year, or something like that, would you be better trying to break away to join a different conference? I'd say yes for at least a majority of the schools including UNLV, AF, USU, UNM.

They may not be able to have the number of schools required to dissolve the conference initially, but how many MWC schools are required to agree to whatever new media deal is offered? I'd think it would have to be a majority, right? So if Hawaii doesn't get a vote, then 4 of the 7 remaining members could basically veto any new media deal, which would essentially blow up the conference. Why would the schools stay if they're not going to be getting a paycheck?

That would be my line of thinking in this. Get those 4 schools together to agree to not sign off on any new media deal. Then, go to the other schools and tell them what they're planning to do. At this point, you come to an agreement with the 4 departing schools, to where they pay a percentage of the fee, which gets split evenly between all of the remaining schools, and then you vote to dissolve the conference.

This could be a totally wrong line of thinking since I don't know the details of how these all shake out, but it seems at least reasonable IMO.

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

100% it does.

I don't think he's a money chaser. I think he would only leave for a few select schools.

Now with this nonsense, I say the list of jobs he would leave for probably grew.

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Rosegreen1 said:

The media deal runs until 2030, each school currently gets more than double what our media deal is currently. The next MWC tv deal will be similar to the CUSA at 750k a school. We can’t afford that.

By the way, with a move to the AAC, we are probably back on the Big Monday showcase.

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Rosegreen1 said:

The rumor isn’t attached to Harper but at the same time he needs to create some leverage. Im pretty certain the PAC doesn’t want the AAC to be in their backyard/the west.

To me, having some reporters say unlv is on the phone with AAC serves two purposes. Leverage and gaming out a plan B.

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LocoRebel said:

AAC will take a financial hit from their previous media deal, which included UCF, Houston, and Cincinnati I believe.

Joining AAC (if it remains as it currently is) would be an upgrade in competition from the MWC as it will be in 2026. But is it worth it for us as fans?

It would mean no pacific time zone teams other than UNLV, and it would mean Air Force is the closest team to us, and is the only, where next is North Texas.

That hurts fans more than helps. The $$$ and viability of future is it. But it sucks.

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LocoRebel said:

AAC will take a financial hit from their previous media deal, which included UCF, Houston, and Cincinnati I believe.

Joining AAC (if it remains as it currently is) would be an upgrade in competition from the MWC as it will be in 2026. But is it worth it for us as fans?

It would mean no pacific time zone teams other than UNLV, and it would mean Air Force is the closest team to us, and is the only, where next is North Texas.

That hurts fans more than helps. The $$$ and viability of future is it. But it sucks.

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Rebel1986 said:

AAC or ACC?

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Meister_Rebel said:

That is great news. If it's our only option we jump on it ASAP.

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Rebel1986 said:

I wonder if that would be considered collusion, and end up in the courts?

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