unlv7163 said:

It worked out well, but why was no timeout called? I was yelling at my TV, gives me anxiety just watching it.

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Odom addressed that in Monday press conference. Basixally:

They thought ref signalled JDJ got out of bounds after his catch and the clock stopped. Headset comms were down, so when they finally noticed time was ticking, they ran Sluka over. Odom said he specifically look at KU defensive secondary rotation and saw they were out of alignment for the call they had coming in, so specifically did not use the timeout

He also said directly if they realized JDJ was in bounds, they would have taken the timeout immediately after the catch

Boston Rebel 2 said:

Supposedly because they believe Vegas is a pro sports town and not as much upside for college. And not worth the exit fee payment.

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Nah, I think Boise and SDSU didnt want to involve Vegas out of pettiness. They feel vulnerable to the Vegas situation and know something we all dont about other conversations... Boise doesnt want to lose its precious stance as the Cinderella powerhouse of the West and SDSU just out of spite.

This is wild.. There is no way they are going to be able to negotiate out of their exit fees and penalties and they dont have any idea of the media rights deal that may happen at this point other than it only makes sense if its more than 7 for the AAC schools... Also these 4 schools colluded plain and simple to leave and were negotiating to the detriment of the conference behind its back, which the conference should reject any remaining payouts for them...
and Im sorry but the "investment" part of the conversation is BS outside SDSU and Boise...

Guys read the ESPN article. Your head will spin.

The traitors were among us.

UNLV was not in the plans.

MWC commissioner is an IDIOT of epic proportions.

LVRebel2000 said:

Definitely. But that Fresno game will be though. It's early in the season, so it's still tough to know how good teams are, but they went into Michigan and played a respectable game (lost 30-10). The 2nd game they won against Sac St. The 3rd game is the one that really confuses me. FSU beat NM State 48-0. The week before, NM State led the whole game but lost at the end to Liberty, who is supposedly one of the best G5 teams. And FSU throttled them. I didn't watch the game though, so couldn't say for sure if it was FSU playing well, NM State playing terrible, or both, but either way, it was an impressive score.

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That is the same Michigan that struggled to beat Arkansas St. by 10 on their own home field, and was down 24-3 to Texas in the first half before Texas put in their bench and still won by 19.

Interesting that they may entertain the thought of eventually taking us in the PAC 12 but at a reduced payout rate.

RRebel said:

what would you rather have UNLV choose: a full equal share in the PAC 12, or 1/2 the share in the BIG 12 until their media deal expires?

I’d obviously pick BIG 12 because I feel like the conference is far superior, especially basketball. But the person I was talking to said they’d rather join the pac 12. Their point was UNLV with a 1/2 share in the BIG 12 would put them at a big time spending disadvantage compared to the other teams and we wouldn’t be able to compete. On the surface it makes sense.

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Currently UNLV is 2-0 against the Big12 with even less money in comparison to 1/2 share.

The SEC and BIG have had every other conference in checkmate for the past 5+ years. The BIG12 and the ACC will have no choice to pick off the top G5's in order to buy atleast another 5-10 years of relevance. If both conferences were smart, they'd start adding more G5s now so it doesn't look like desperation when their top programs dip to the final 2. In order to do that, they have to find the programs that will impact their media package the least. That's the point they are at. Travel will also come into play. If UNLV can get that playoff spot, we'd be in great position. Even more so than SDSU, FSU, and CSU. BSU however, has always brought in the viewership, but lack the academics and would strain the travel expenses. I think we're sitting in a perfect situation for a 12 addition geographically and financially. I sincerely believe this.

I also believe a PAC invite is inevitable should the 12 decide not to be proactive this go around.

Boston Rebel 2 said:

Supposedly because they believe Vegas is a pro sports town and not as much upside for college. And not worth the exit fee payment.

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You mean like Colorado.

Rebel1986 said:

Arizona has UNLV at 16th.

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Yeah I saw someone else point that out. 16th is way too high, but I like it!

ckfitz said:

The article said that another reason UNLV wasn't chosen is because they wanted additional schools to be located more towards the east. If tying UNLV and Reno was a major cause, how did they know that without talking with the Regents? Something is not right here. I also think that wanting to get schools outside of the west, seems like a weak secondary reason for not choosing UNLV. I'm becoming more suspicious.

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Supposedly because they believe Vegas is a pro sports town and not as much upside for college. And not worth the exit fee payment.

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IMO, it seems like it would be really difficult for Tulane and Memphis to commit to this new conference. A few of the challenges are:

1. AAC departure. The current conference requirements say a departing school needs to provide a 27 month notice, as well as pay a $10 exit fee. The thing that sticks out most is the 27 month exit fee, since the PAC would need the new schools to be part of the conference sooner than that. It's likely the conference would let them go earlier, but at a higher exit fee. In the last round of exits (Houston, etc), it was $18 million per school with the shorter notice.

2. No known media deal for the the PAC conference. The current AAC deal gives each school around $7 million per year, so they would have to give that up, for an unknown amount as part of the new PAC deal.

3. Travel. Currently, the 4 of the 6 schools in the new PAC are on the West coast, with Boise State not being too far from the west and CSU being the most central. Assuming that the PAC adds Tulane and Memphis, you'd be logging a ton of travel time and expense. It isn't terrible for football only, due to the lower number of games, but it would definitely add up for all other sports, which is what I'm assuming the PAC is looking to fill the spots for, not football only. It wouldn't be as bad for the other 6 PAC schools since they're mostly regional, and they would only have to travel to Tulane and Memphis periodically, but Tulane and Memphis would be making those long trips for 6 of their 7 roadtrips.

Got my tickets. Taking my brother and my dad. He hasn't been to a Rebel game in probably 30+ years. LFG..........Rebels can't drop this one. We are on the verge of something special.

Stoker016 said:

Beat Fresno at home and that home game against Syracuse will be, by far, the biggest and most comsequential game in program histroy. 2 top 25 teams, at home, a ton of new fans, a chance to open more seats, and start 5-0 and move top 20. A massive opportunity to take things to the next level as a program

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Definitely. But that Fresno game will be though. It's early in the season, so it's still tough to know how good teams are, but they went into Michigan and played a respectable game (lost 30-10). The 2nd game they won against Sac St. The 3rd game is the one that really confuses me. FSU beat NM State 48-0. The week before, NM State led the whole game but lost at the end to Liberty, who is supposedly one of the best G5 teams. And FSU throttled them. I didn't watch the game though, so couldn't say for sure if it was FSU playing well, NM State playing terrible, or both, but either way, it was an impressive score.

Just picked up 5 tickets. Looking forward to the game!

Beat Fresno at home and that home game against Syracuse will be, by far, the biggest and most comsequential game in program histroy. 2 top 25 teams, at home, a ton of new fans, a chance to open more seats, and start 5-0 and move top 20. A massive opportunity to take things to the next level as a program

Maybe there are 12 large reasons why

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Bullmastiff 1 said:

If true only things I can think of are...

UNLV was never really a top option to begin with.

UNLV doesn't have the money to pay an exit fee.

UNLV is listening to other offers potentially from the AAC and weighing their options.

UNLV feels or knows a BIG12 invite is coming.

I can't think of any other hurdles.

I also don't think the BOR would block the move when push came to shove. Sure they might grandstand and make a show of it but don't think they would block it.

Although after reading the entire article it sounds like this was a plan from a year ago not anything that has been linked recently. (Maybe I'm interpreting it wrong?)

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The article said that another reason UNLV wasn't chosen is because they wanted additional schools to be located more towards the east. If tying UNLV and Reno was a major cause, how did they know that without talking with the Regents? Something is not right here. I also think that wanting to get schools outside of the west, seems like a weak secondary reason for not choosing UNLV. I'm becoming more suspicious.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

I've asked same thing but they keep popping up in any discussion involving PAC targets.

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I mean they're 1-2 this year, but they lost by 15 @ #15 Oklahom, and lost by 7 at home against #13 KState. They did change coaching staffs this last year (and we beat the team that staff went to on the road) but have been playing pretty well even without the Ws. In addition they're a really good academic school--but only really have okay market penetration in Nawluns. Saints and Bayou Bengals I think are more represented in that media market.

TimothyC3 said:

You realize that KU is a basketball school and their win/loss record the the last 20 years is comparable to UNLV’s and the last 5 years their home attendance is just over 29k. The fan base is in basketball. The ratings are good because the game was on ESPN at prime time and that’s my point. If it were CBS Sports it wouldn’t register.

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If you have been paying attention, they have had a notable increase in interest in football. This year their Attendance numbers are down because they have to play in a soccer stadium and they are totally upgrading their on campus football stadium.

Like I said, Illinois drew 112k for their first game, and 814k against Kansas. in primetime on a Saturday with other big games competing for eyeballs.

Kansas fans are watching.

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