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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

Maybe y'all have never been to Logan, UT. It's beautiful for 6 months/year but it's way north of SLC and is more considered part of Southern Idaho than Northern UT/SLC metro area. It's known for it's "squeaky cheesy" for heaven's sake.

It adds $0 to their TV deal. No value at all. Their only value is they are 1 team closer to getting a conference championship game.

You're one of my favorite posters on here,

But at this moment your optimism makes me think Scrub told you it was a regular gummy.

Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

I’d say just wait and see how this all plays out. If it’s a 2 year thing, I don’t think it’s horrible to see where the football program is at that point. I’m sure the PACis negotiating high exit fees. Might be hard to leave twice if say the Big 12 were to call calling. Don’t think it’s necessarily ideal where we are at, just don’t think it’s horrible (as of now). Best guess is this leads to the original merger that was planned. Guess we’ll see
This is a reasonable take

Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

I hate to break it to you, but he wasnt long for this conference either way... This cash we can sign a large extension with a huge buyout... That way we get good money in return

And if he wasn't long for it here who else will want to be.

He took over when UNLV was in a top G5 conference. He recognized the potential.

UNLV will no longer be in a top G5 conference. Who will be motivated to come to the West Coast equivalent of the Sun Belt?

I wish I shared your optimism that this will all work itself out and UNLV will be fine..

Unfortunately I can't see it.

Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

Maybe y'all have never been to Logan, UT. It's beautiful for 6 months/year but it's way north of SLC and is more considered part of Southern Idaho than Northern UT/SLC metro area. It's known for it's "squeaky cheesy" for heaven's sake.

It adds $0 to their TV deal. No value at all. Their only value is they are 1 team closer to getting a conference championship game.
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

But its not a long term commitment.... Playoff path is easier, you turn your basketball program into a success.. 5 years from now Big 12 media deal is open for negotiations... That's why it makes sense... and thats 30 million possibly on top of departure fees, so add another 14 million plus and growing... thats a lot of money to play with
As usual, I have no insider information. However, let us say that UNLV takes the money from the MWC defector payouts, the money that UNLV will get for winning the first round of the college football playoff, the money that UNLV will get from losing to Utah in the second round of the playoff, and the money that would have been used for the MWC exit fee and invests it in the football program, paying Odom 6 million dollars per year for the next 7 years and each coordinator 1 million per year. How would this position UNLV for the next round of the Big 12 expansion?
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USU sounds like they are gone. SJSU announced intention to stay.

If we get left behind in MWC and USU, RENO and UNM go to the PAC I can honestly say I'm not sure I care enough anymore to watch UNLV play FCS call ups.

Not being hyperbolic. I just wouldn't have any interest in watching a football conference probably behind the MAC now. And not much better than the Sun Belt.
I’d say just wait and see how this all plays out. If it’s a 2 year thing, I don’t think it’s horrible to see where the football program is at that point. I’m sure the PACis negotiating high exit fees. Might be hard to leave twice if say the Big 12 were to call calling. Don’t think it’s necessarily ideal where we are at, just don’t think it’s horrible (as of now). Best guess is this leads to the original merger that was planned. Guess we’ll see

Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

Ok but after that then what.

I can't see Odom staying to coach in this conference if it gets flooded with FCS schools or CUSA schools.

I can't see it.
I hate to break it to you, but he wasnt long for this conference either way... This cash we can sign a large extension with a huge buyout... That way we get good money in return

Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

I give zero poops what the PAC may or may not make.

What I care about is how little UNLV may end up making.

Like I said earlier.

Let's say UNLV is getting 30 million dollar lump sum.

If media deal drops from 5 million per school to 3 million per (And that might be generous considering what MWC will look like now)

That's 2 million less per year over the next say 5 years.

That's 10 million off the top of that 30 million.

Want to lock up Odom. Probably another Million a year.

We're down to 15.

What are attendance numbers going to look like when the Home conference schedule is Sac State, UTEP, NMSU, WYO?

Have to imagine that takes a hit creating another shortfall.

That money dries up pretty damn quick.
But its not a long term commitment.... Playoff path is easier, you turn your basketball program into a success.. 5 years from now Big 12 media deal is open for negotiations... That's why it makes sense... and thats 30 million possibly on top of departure fees, so add another 14 million plus and growing... thats a lot of money to play with
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I've been donating to the Lady Rebel Basketball team. I might start donating a little to football. I get where you are coming from but, I can't abandon my Rebels. I've been following them for +50 years. I wouldn't know how to stop following them.
I would expect that. You’ve seen true greatness. I’ve seen a Harvard business study on how not to run a university in its entirety, for the last decade.

Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

Look at all the money that the PAC2 has and how quickly they are spending it to survive. That money will not change the condition of the MWC.
They will be paying $55 million in poaching fees. The 5 leaving will be paying us about $18 million each which is about $90 million. Then we keep the 5 schools media revenue distribution for the next 2 years which will come out to about $25 million or more.

Total monies as a result of the 5 schools leaving about $170 million.

All that money and we are stuck in a weaker conference imo.
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if it was 12 with Memphis and Tulane, I don't think the pendulum swings that hard the other way. I think they are looking at about 8 mil per year.
I believe nothing they say. The Pac12 deal (before Colorado left) was said to be $40M/....it was nowhere NEAR that. MWC will get all the exit and poaching fees, and the share of the NCAA tournament/CFP money this season and next. It's going to be close to $25M-$40M/school to just stay for the next two seasons.
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