Bullmastiff 1 said:

So it's ok to bring up how Hajj benefitted from the defense gifting him short fields. Seems fair to say Maiava's penchant for turnovers could gift opponents short fields and easy scores no?

Yes I think Maiava's the better QB but I don't think our records different. Maybe we beat Syracuse but we might have lost to Kansas because Maiava throws 3 picks.

I will say with Mullen at HC I would want Maiava. I think he might be able to clean up the picks.

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That's my point. Maiava has been put in 2 positions that aren't great and require him to push and press to keep in the game or win it. That's how he turns the ball over so much. You put him on a team where his abilities are utilized in a way that isn't forget chasing a game or keeping up and he's less likely to turn the ball over by trying to hard. USC wasn't good, they went to him out if desperation to save the season. Just like last night they chased the game and he threw bad passes. Hajj wasn't chasing games until Boise in the Championship game. He wasn't pressed to make big plays and could be much more cautious with the ball. He had a much better defense to protect small leads. It's much easier to play it safe when your set up that way.

RebelScrub said:

They have zaon collins.. intriguing matchup

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If there was any pride in the program at unlv, the student section would be all over that with interesting signs.

Unfortunately this program has zero pride or enthusiasm going. Just going through the motions.

I predict UNLV 67 Fresno 58.

RebelinWA said:

Fertitta might just be shifting to a different role. If I were him, I’d plant my flag with Hunkie and start working on building goodwill in the community.

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Nico Fertitta?

hrz702 said:

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Chose to remain a rebel instead of become a rebel.

I’m guessing this means Fertitta is moving on?

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Which Fertitta is moving on?

RebelScrub said:

They have zaon collins.. intriguing matchup

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He's playing really well on a bad team.

They have zaon collins.. intriguing matchup

@Loyal Coug1 just wants our commissioner. He’d join the Sunbelt if he had the hots for that commissioner. 🤣

I only watched the highlights but Maiaiva threw some really bad picks. It will be interesting to see if USC sticks with him or brings in another QB.

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Loyal Coug1 said:

It is no shame to need to be corrected by the All-Knowing, All-Seeing, yet humble Loyal One. I'm used to this on my idiot-filled board.

Now, I will make a bold prediction. The Traitorous MW 5 will wake up on NY's Day and say WTF did we sign on for? They will do a conference call, and then call Gloria (with their attorneys on the call) and say look, how do we get the F out of this shitshow and come back home? And can we bring this Loyal Coug1 guy along with us? He's dying to become your personal assistant.

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I do think there is a non zero chance they come back, no matter how small. Each school would be on the hook for a lot of money though. Unless they don’t find that 8th member.

Loyal Coug1 said:

It is no shame to need to be corrected by the All-Knowing, All-Seeing, yet humble Loyal One. I'm used to this on my idiot-filled board.

Now, I will make a bold prediction. The Traitorous MW 5 will wake up on NY's Day and say WTF did we sign on for? They will do a conference call, and then call Gloria (with their attorneys on the call) and say look, how do we get the F out of this shitshow and come back home? And can we bring this Loyal Coug1 guy along with us? He's dying to become your personal assistant.

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They ain't coming back.

Buffel said:

Maiava also had 3 picks yesterday that put usc in the hole. His completion rate was bad But he has the ability to make big plays with his arm snd that can get you back in games and win them for you .

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No argument there.

I've said since he was here, if he cleans up the decision making he could be a special player. If he doesn't he'll be back in the portal.

Maiava’s greatest quality is no matter the score, he expected he can win. We saw it multiple times where he went down swinging believing until the last second that he had a chance. Sometimes it paid off. Other times, it didn’t. But him believing and making a play can really swing the outcome.

Maiava also had 3 picks yesterday that put usc in the hole. His completion rate was bad But he has the ability to make big plays with his arm snd that can get you back in games and win them for you .

RebelinWA said:

https://www.usustats.com/goodies/contracts/UtahStatePAC12Contract.pdf

Here’s the contract. A good amount of it is redacted, and I don’t know if the other Mw schools got the same deal.

I got it wrong. They are required to participate in meetings, but they don’t have a vote until 2026; unless its for 1. granting the media rights deal 2.voting to add a members.

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It is no shame to need to be corrected by the All-Knowing, All-Seeing, yet humble Loyal One. I'm used to this on my idiot-filled board.

Now, I will make a bold prediction. The Traitorous MW 5 will wake up on NY's Day and say WTF did we sign on for? They will do a conference call, and then call Gloria (with their attorneys on the call) and say look, how do we get the F out of this shitshow and come back home? And can we bring this Loyal Coug1 guy along with us? He's dying to become your personal assistant.

RebelinWA said:

Fertitta might just be shifting to a different role. If I were him, I’d plant my flag with Hunkie and start working on building goodwill in the community.

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Word. Yeah those are two to keep around.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

No...He's staying from what I understand.

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Fertitta might just be shifting to a different role. If I were him, I’d plant my flag with Hunkie and start working on building goodwill in the community.

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No...He's staying from what I understand.

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Masked_rebel said:

Except Hajj is a Super SR and Maiava was a freshman with room to learn and grow. His int number likely comes down when he's not pressed to do as much to win games. His situation at USC wasn't great this year and he was pressed to try and make plays. Hajj knew he didn't have to make a play in most situations. We had incredible field position thanks to our special teams play or defjense. In games where we didn't get those plays, he struggled to move the ball. You give Maiava that defense and I agree, we're talking CFP right now.

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So it's ok to bring up how Hajj benefitted from the defense gifting him short fields. Seems fair to say Maiava's penchant for turnovers could gift opponents short fields and easy scores no?

Yes I think Maiava's the better QB but I don't think our records different. Maybe we beat Syracuse but we might have lost to Kansas because Maiava throws 3 picks.

I will say with Mullen at HC I would want Maiava. I think he might be able to clean up the picks.

Here’s the contract. A good amount of it is redacted, and I don’t know if the other Mw schools got the same deal.

I got it wrong. They are required to participate in meetings, but they don’t have a vote until 2026; unless its for 1. granting the media rights deal 2.voting to add a members.

bcvegaspt2 said:

Not to pile on your woes but without the money you had coming in from the real pac, it’s going to get a lot harder moving forward. Enjoy an 8-win season now.

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I would like to see an accounting for what we have done so far with our windfall. But that won't happen. The Pac-2 is tapping it bigtime just to fund our FY2024 and especially FY2025 deficits, we know that. Remember that our windfall includes $50M/year this year and next for the Rose Bowl contract, NCAA BB payments of $10M (?, +/-) for FY 25 and 26, and the few million in FBS dollars that the NCAA gave us out of pity. Minus the poaching fees.

Masked_rebel said:

Except Hajj is a Super SR and Maiava was a freshman with room to learn and grow. His int number likely comes down when he's not pressed to do as much to win games. His situation at USC wasn't great this year and he was pressed to try and make plays. Hajj knew he didn't have to make a play in most situations. We had incredible field position thanks to our special teams play or defense. In games where we didn't get those plays, he struggled to move the ball. You give Maiava that defense and I agree, we're talking CFP right now.

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Those numbers I posted were Maiavas when he was at UNLV, not his USC numbers.

oneepstein said:

A very good point here, but first…

You’re a smart person, I’m sure there are smart people in the new PAC as well…

A merged MW/PAC would, as a brand, be far superior and would no doubt help the profiles of its best teams. It would be clear and away the best G5 in my opinion and would force the rest of the country to pay attention. I mean you’d basically own the west.

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bcvegaspt2 said:

When is the pac announcing their tv deal? Any due date for that yet?
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Masked_rebel said:

the carrot they had to dangle for Gonzaga. If our friend @Loyal Coug1 is correct, the original Pac 2 teams weren't happy about that addition. Those were the 2 schools driving the realignment bus, both created sweetheart deals to keep themselves financially ahead of the others.

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RebelinWA said:

Its because none of the new schools have any voting rights until they officially “join”

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Meister_Rebel said:

So, the Pac two made the decision to how the revenue was going to be "shared"? I would think there was more to that.

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Replies in order:
epstein - "I’m sure there are smart people in the new PAC as well". Well that makes one of you.
bcvegas - "When is the pac announcing their tv deal? Any due date for that yet?". I dunno. It would probably help if we actually had an FBS-qualified league, wouldn't it?
Masked - I think most if not many delusional Cougs (no idea what the Beavs think, they are all high on legal mushrooms there in Oregon) liked adding Gonzaga. Not this Coug. We sold out bigtime, and will rue the day. Gonzaga will keep all the coin they make on non-con games, then get to keep half of their NCAA BB allocations, then (I guess) share in whatever our pathetic FB media rights bring in? Boy what a sweet deal for the rest of the Pac.
Masked, in WA and Meister - I believe that the traitorous MW 5 have some voting rights. I thought that included new membership offers. IIRC, the Pac-2 held on to all rights in terms of keeping our dwindling windfall to ourselves. Which makes sense.