j. spilotro said:

Agree on all points.

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Now we will have nothing but the football to talk about until the end of the year, then we can talk about who will be the new basketball coach and who he will recruit to UNLV.

TheMatrix31 said:

Are they being selective or just running out of quality schools like the MW? Tulane and Memphis saying no really put the screws to them and then UNLV coming back and saying no really did

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I think Both.

They are running out of options, and their last selection will likely hurt their average payouts from what they have right now.

I have seen a tweet, I didn't have time to grab it, that reported that the PAC is looking at a 14 mil./school deal since using Octogon. I don't buy that until I see it, but it is possible that they were able to add another media partner to sweeten the deal since signing with Octagon. I think they have been only working with the CW and maybe one other (CBS/Fox/Apple) up to this point.

They may try another pass at schools that have already turned them down. My guess they are willing to wait it out to see if anyone changes their mind or finding some other school that won't hurt their bottom line before adding a lower school, especially a FCS school.

Rosegreen1 said:

Top kicker in the country and he’s got elite accuracy and leg. He’ll get paid.

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He could have gone anywhere when he was in HS. Happy for the year we got. Think this might confirm Shibest as being out

Masked_rebel said:

I hadn't heard Scherer was going to Purdue I thought that was just our own assumption

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Most likely unless Odom hires his brother from USC to be DC.

Another scenario is Marion taking the Wazzu job and Scherer being the DC there or at Wake Forest. Who knows in this climate.

RebelSoldat said:

That sucks. He had a bright future. Hopefully Mullen can convince him to stay

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Top kicker in the country and he’s got elite accuracy and leg. He’ll get paid.

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dcut03 said:

Boise is the best for sure.

But SDSU, CSU, USU, and Fresno has generally been better than every team in the leftover MW other than AFA, SJSU, and not until recently UNLV.

They have some of the best attendance numbers, despite most of them having down years. USU was towards the bottom, but they did have some significant coach turmoil. They had one of the biggest delta's over last season. With Bronco, it would be safe to say that their attendance bounces back quite a bit.

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Competitively? Sure hard to say, though historically overall the PAC definitely stronger in football., recently not as much.

Basketball it isn't even close.

UNLV is in the drivers seat for MW football now, AFA and SJSU should be near the top, then it drops off significantly, Their bottom would be our middle, our bottom is well way down there.

SO yes overall SOS will be much stronger. And yes any MW team better have some notable OOC upsets. The PAC is going to win any tiebreakers if it comes down to that playoff spot.

The PAC has a clue, which is why they are separating to begin with. The MW has a lot of dead weight with media value and competitiveness. The MW is adding teams, but many have been teams of little value, that will likely drop media payouts for everyone.

The PAC knew what they were looking at with a merger. They are going through all of this trouble because it is worth it. Conference realignment has and always been about money.

So I think they will easily get more annual contract money. I think it is hard to argue that. It is really a question of how much

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Between 8-12 million. If they were getting valuations higher than that I think Memphis would have made the jump last time.

Media deal is the one sticking point for me and UNLV not joining the PAC. An extra 3-5 million (potentially) a year would be nice..

I'll stand by if there is no BIG12 invite then this was mistake long term. If there is then it was the right call.

Not because of conference prestige or whatever. Just dollars and cents of it. You can only go to the booster well so many times. At some point you have to be able to fund projects, hire coaches etc on your own.

RebelinWA said:

Lost Chittenden

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That sucks. He had a bright future. Hopefully Mullen can convince him to stay

Masked_rebel said:

I hadn't heard Scherer was going to Purdue I thought that was just our own assumption

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He’s 1000% going to Purdue.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Yes I watched most of it. Congratulations! Now back to my pity party......

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You guys should 100% poach Jay Norvell from CSU. If for no other reason than the hilarity of it.

Tell your Coug brethren welcome to the G5..

Sorry I mean G6.

TimothyC3 said:

I disagree. All the G5-PAC2 has is Boise. Nothing more. No one else has a national reputation or appeal. They are all G5. If that wasn't the case why haven't the TV networks jumped and offered? Why are they struggling to find the 8th football member?

Here's why the PAC leadership doesn't have a clue. This year the current MWC has two teams ranked in the top 25 for most of the year. With the merger and 14 members there could be years where the MWC had 3 ranked teams. Now we are talking and competing with the B12 by having a similar number of teams with top 25 rankings and when the playoffs expand to 16 teams the merged PAC-MWC could make a strong argument that they deserve a auto bid. Not now!

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Boise is the best for sure.

But SDSU, CSU, USU, and Fresno has generally been better than every team in the leftover MW other than AFA, SJSU, and not until recently UNLV.

They have some of the best attendance numbers, despite most of them having down years. USU was towards the bottom, but they did have some significant coach turmoil. They had one of the biggest delta's over last season. With Bronco, it would be safe to say that their attendance bounces back quite a bit.


Competitively? Sure hard to say, though historically overall the PAC definitely stronger in football., recently not as much.

Basketball it isn't even close.

UNLV is in the drivers seat for MW football now, AFA and SJSU should be near the top, then it drops off significantly, Their bottom would be our middle, our bottom is well way down there.

SO yes overall SOS will be much stronger. And yes any MW team better have some notable OOC upsets. The PAC is going to win any tiebreakers if it comes down to that playoff spot.

The PAC has a clue, which is why they are separating to begin with. The MW has a lot of dead weight with media value and competitiveness. The MW is adding teams, but many have been teams of little value, that will likely drop media payouts for everyone.

The PAC knew what they were looking at with a merger. They are going through all of this trouble because it is worth it. Conference realignment has and always been about money.

So I think they will easily get more annual contract money. I think it is hard to argue that. It is really a question of how much

Lost Charles Correa

Lost Chittenden

Bullmastiff 1 said:

Not sure if you noticed but UNLV singlehandedly defeated communism tonight.

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Yes I watched most of it. Congratulations! Now back to my pity party......

Lost Jalen St John, probably has eligibility left as a grad transfer.

Rosegreen1 said:

He’s going to get paid. Probably Purdue bound, if I’m guessing going with Odom and Scherer.

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I hadn't heard Scherer was going to Purdue I thought that was just our own assumption

rickyb55 said:

The qb’s this year had 25 TD’s and 6 INT’s,
Last years qb’s had 17 TD’s and 12 INT’s
So the qb play wasn’t as bad as you think, yeah less passing yards but the team made it up in rushing yards. Combined total offense this year vs last year there is about 100yd difference.

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Our running game was a lot better this year which opens up the passing game. Hajj missed a lot of wide open guys Maiava wouldn't have. It would have been different more TD's and more picks but overall he is better than Hajj.

saulpaul21 said:

Do we have stats on first downs this year vs last year? That is where I think it would show that this year's offense did not move the ball consistently. Did they move it in big chunk plays this year? Yes.

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296 This year

That's from the team website, but I don't believe they added last night's stats in yet. We had 12 yesterday.

Rosegreen1 said:

He’s going to get paid. Probably Purdue bound, if I’m guessing going with Odom and Scherer.

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We have a pretty good NIL budget now he would be a worthy target.

1Tripoda said:

As the OC?

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Most likely QB coach, OC would just be a title. He’s not calling plays.

rickyb55 said:

The qb’s this year had 25 TD’s and 6 INT’s,
Last years qb’s had 17 TD’s and 12 INT’s
So the qb play wasn’t as bad as you think, yeah less passing yards but the team made it up in rushing yards. Combined total offense this year vs last year there is about 100yd difference.

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Complementary football. Also a lot of credit goes to the center, Hasz in directing the line in pass pro.

1Tripoda said:

As the OC?

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Dan doesn't hire an OC, he calls his own plays. He hires position coaches to help in Offense role. At Florida he had 2 guys helping him, the line coach and TE coach.