Yeah but we got that ball rolling. I don't think NY would have done anything had we not said something first. They were headquartered there, made a lot of money for the local economy
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Good question but I don't think it matters to more than three owners.
NV got the ball rolling because NY wanted us to. If NV had done nothing, then NY would have jumped in on it's own. So too would the NFL. They just let things come about in the right sequence.
I'm hopeful that more groups step in to lower the public funding percentage because right now the idea is getting hammered and Adelson is looking like a plutocrat flexing his muscle.
At $780 million, potential subsidy for Las Vegas stadium at front of the pack
Adelson begins to play with his new toy
At $780 million, potential subsidy for Las Vegas stadium at front of the pack
Adelson begins to play with his new toy
I haven't lived in Vegas for a while but would there be any chance of doing a small increase on sales tax within the Strip (so technically Paradise)? Imagine a .001 or .005 increase then the tax would be 8.11 or 8.15%. For those who work on the strip who might be getting food on their breaks that would be a few pennies for meals. If there could be a way for the state to still take the 8.1% it's currently at and then the small percentage increase goes towards the stadium it might be a small, but helpful factor over the 20-30 years.
Fair enough. Aside from UNLV just straight up asking for donations and having people pool their money there I just don't know of any way to get money towards the stadium without going to the legislature.
That's the question I have as well. I am unsure if the diversion of the room tax they're going after requires legislative approval as well, or if that's a county thing or what.
I wonder if in the short term it wouldn't do better to request the money needed to update the existing stadium by paving the lots, add seats to the end zone as needed, and add another sky box on the opposite side for luxury suits? While it may not give them the perfect stadium, they could figure out a design and look at the possibility of adding a shade structure to the outside skeleton of the stadium. Just my thoughts since the proposed stadium may get tied up in long term politics.
Would be nice but definitely not a long term solution. We need a stadium near campus. I worry if this gets tied up too long you'll hear more UNLV faculty and administrators saying we should use the land to build more student housing and expand the campus.
Some new news about revival of the UNLV Campus Improvement Authority.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/stadium/unlv-campus-improvement-authority-revived
http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/stadium/unlv-campus-improvement-authority-revived
Panel Takes a Closer Look At Convention Center Expansion
http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/panel-takes-closer-look-las-vegas-convention-center-expansion
http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/panel-takes-closer-look-las-vegas-convention-center-expansion
If they can sell 100k NASCAR tickets they can sell 65k seats for other events in that stadium. And that's 100k+ with high ticket prices. Atlanta is 38$ a seat for NASCAR, we charge over 100 and up from there.
Is that what I said? What I did say was that NASCAR comparison is not a good one. The crowds that come from NASCAR events are almost all from out of state fans while the vast majority of events that would occur at either the existing Sam Boyd stadium or a new stadium will rely on mostly local fan support. I never said it is a bad thing if a new stadium brings in fans from out of state, I do say that we should not count on out of state fan support for the majority of events that currently are held at the Sam Boyd Stadium. Will new events help bring in out of town fans? Yes, but not to a level that is seen with NASCAR.
UNLV football games - Currently we have shown that out of state fans will come to games and could bring as many as 10-20k fans if we either play in the PAC12 or a game against a major opponent that travels well.
USA 7's rugby tournament - brings limited out of town fan support.
Monster Jam World Finals - almost all local fans
Monster Energy AMA supercross - almost all local fans
Monster Energy Cup - almost all local fans
Las Vegas Bowl - this even will bring a lot of out of town support
Global Legend Series Soccer - almost all local fans
Pro Soccer Challenge - almost all local fans
World Football Challange - with top level out of town teams like soccer out of Mexico, Spain, etc. international soccer can bring in good out of state fan support,
High School Football state championship - almost all local fans
Various Music Concerts - almost all local fans
Soccer Friendlies - same as above depending on teams can bring in good out of town fan support.
There are events that can bring in out of town fans, and events that can be tied to large convention event, political rallies, NCAA regionals, PAC12 championship, etc, but it will mostly be local events that would most likely pay the bills for any new stadium.
UNLV football games - Currently we have shown that out of state fans will come to games and could bring as many as 10-20k fans if we either play in the PAC12 or a game against a major opponent that travels well.
USA 7's rugby tournament - brings limited out of town fan support.
Monster Jam World Finals - almost all local fans
Monster Energy AMA supercross - almost all local fans
Monster Energy Cup - almost all local fans
Las Vegas Bowl - this even will bring a lot of out of town support
Global Legend Series Soccer - almost all local fans
Pro Soccer Challenge - almost all local fans
World Football Challange - with top level out of town teams like soccer out of Mexico, Spain, etc. international soccer can bring in good out of state fan support,
High School Football state championship - almost all local fans
Various Music Concerts - almost all local fans
Soccer Friendlies - same as above depending on teams can bring in good out of town fan support.
There are events that can bring in out of town fans, and events that can be tied to large convention event, political rallies, NCAA regionals, PAC12 championship, etc, but it will mostly be local events that would most likely pay the bills for any new stadium.
I disagree. Yes, local-esque events like some of the above will draw locals but it depends on the type of event. I think you are highly underestimating the number of big time concerts and events that will likely price out locals.
What events would that be?
Concerts and events of that size that would bring in out of town audiences are few and far between, the days of concerts in large stadiums is all but gone on a national level. If you go and look at the events that are held in the Dallas stadium (best example of a similar size and type of stadium), you will find this to be true. The best chance to bring in large crowds will come from various events like those I already listed which include sporting events and motorized events like monster trucks and motocross.
Clearly if we get a large stadium it is going to need to survive mostly from attendance of locals with a smaller portion coming from visitors.
My brother is one of those in charge of sales/convention business for the LVCVA, so I am very familiar with the type of events that would be available.
Concerts and events of that size that would bring in out of town audiences are few and far between, the days of concerts in large stadiums is all but gone on a national level. If you go and look at the events that are held in the Dallas stadium (best example of a similar size and type of stadium), you will find this to be true. The best chance to bring in large crowds will come from various events like those I already listed which include sporting events and motorized events like monster trucks and motocross.
Clearly if we get a large stadium it is going to need to survive mostly from attendance of locals with a smaller portion coming from visitors.
My brother is one of those in charge of sales/convention business for the LVCVA, so I am very familiar with the type of events that would be available.
With all due respect, it's time to stop throwing money down that toilet.
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