This was my point when we had this discussion before.
He's good. I'm not sure he's a huge upgrade at a lot of P4 schools good. At least not yet.
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This was my point when we had this discussion before.
He's good. I'm not sure he's a huge upgrade at a lot of P4 schools good. At least not yet.
He was loose with the ball all season. He just got away with it vs lesser competition.
No sour grapes. I think he was good enough to become the best QB in conference possibly.
I also think he may not ever evolve beyond what he is now, and always be a guy that puts the ball into some bad spots..Hr's also doesn't have the greatest feel for the pocket. Can't count the number of times he scrambled into pressure instead of away from it.
DCs start to pick up on tendencies. He's got some stuff he has to clean up. Somebody else's project now..
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Easy. Just go get Malachi Nelson and call it a day.
There was a story a week ago in the Sun, maybe before the bowl game. In the story, his teammates were blowing up his phone, JM is telling them it’s all bunk that he’s entering the portal.
Few days later, here we are. Between that and how Lobby was treated, Brian Odom posting a cringe photo tweet with JM.
I’ll say this, the whole thing was very weirdly handled for a month now.
Washington State and Oregon state are possibilities. Boise and maybe SDSU, but SDSU already got their FSU transfer. Oregon State has like 31 QBs coming in. Hawaii would be out of left field.
Anybody feel like he makes Boise that much better?
SDSU?.Yeah QB situation has been a mess. So maybe.
OSU and WSU? Sure I guess since the incumbents left. Wouldn't have gotten a sniff at starting either place otherwise.
Hawaii..Family. Otherwise why?
It was a joke. Hence the “easy” part of my post. There are some interesting QBs in the portal I’d like to see.
Of course. I know youre smarter than that. But question still stands lol how much would you pay for him?
It's all relative to how much money is available and who else could you get for the same money.
Me personally? $35. With a NIL collective? $1.25MM.
So we all know the College football bag men have always existed. Not going away.
What I'm starting to wonder is how tangible is this NIL money.
Here's why.
Say rumors swirl thar player X was offered 300k in NIL money/endorsements.
Sure Caleb Williams got a Dr Pepper spot. Probably got a nice chunk for that. But who else?
Let's be honest. Dudes this age are prone to get involved in some dumbassery on occasion. Hand those same dudes 300k dollars, the potential for dumbassery probably increases quite a bit.
Yet we aren't seeing (at least I haven't) Tik Tok or Twitter videos of guys flashing cash or showing off new cars or jewelry or videos of them tossing money in the air at clubs.
There was the Colorado thing and stolen jewelry. And Sander's kid with his car, but his dad already had money..
I'm just starting to wonder how tangible this money really is?
A few Texas A&M guys came out and said they didn't see a dime and transferred..
We know guys are getting leases for cars and what not.
But actual hard cash?
Hey Maiava I hope you liked the feeling of having fan support and city love. Now you get to find out what the opposite of that is.
GET the F out is all I can say........
So, in general, the way modern college football works I'm never surprised or hurt if a guy hits the portal, especially if I think they're at a talent level where they're not going to be playing on Sundays and the can make some coin while doing it. That's just capitalism But I don't like it when someone says something, and then was clearly using that statement just as a lever to get a better deal and changes their tune. I guess that's sort of capitalism, too but I value my word too strongly to say something publicly then change my position due to self-interest. But the kid didn't just lie to me, he lied to his teammates and the coaching staff. He gave his word, appeared in social media giving his word, etc, then reneged. Had he just said, "I'm still considering my options but I'm leaning towards staying," then I'd have no beef.
But I do kind of have beef now and I hope he's happy where he goes, but I'm glad it's not here anymore.
But I do kind of have beef now and I hope he's happy where he goes, but I'm glad it's not here anymore.
So his word means a whole lot. Hope he fails.
I didn't watch either game last night since the only connection I have to college sports is UNLV.
Washington and Michigan were the only two futures bets I made during the season so it would have been stressful to watch if both lost. Now, I don't need to watch the title game since I don't need to hedge.
I am happy to spend as much as it takes of someone else's money.
I bet Michigan/WA to play in the title game so that was my only reason for watching. That said, I am glad I did as both games were entertaining for a change.
I agree with that with one exception. For me the best part of CFB is what happens before and after kickoff. The game is secondary. I traveled to 6 Oregon games this year and one random Iowa vs Northwestern game. Last year I went to a lot of Oregon games and Alabama vs Auburn, it’s what I do every year.
Regardless of who is playing in these games and how much they are getting paid, there is nothing like arriving to Eugene or some other college town on Friday, walking around the campus, bar hopping with fans of both schools, tailgating before the game. Or taking a boat to Husky stadium as I did for the 6 seasons that I had season tickets when I lived there and still do at least every other year. That is what separates college football from the NFL.
The JM/Marion relationship always seemed forced to me. It’s been noted on this board that JM was not BM’s QB. If true I suspect once BM was returning JM was no longer interested in staying. If that’s the case then BM needs to live up to his word and not bolt to another school in Feb and take his replacement for JM with him. Worst case scenario imo so a lot rides on BM not doing what he’s done at every other school. He needs to live up to his second year commitment AND bring “his” QB to run his offense. I’d rather not have a QB that doesn’t want to be here but I also have eyes wide open to the fact that it’s not easy to simply plug in a new QB with “potential” and expect him to perform same or better than JM. I would have preferred stability and consistency with upgrades on defense and a portal QB to compete and push JM, but here we are (thank you NIL). Lot rides on Marion now to produce his QB and exceed what JM was able to accomplish.
BTW, could this at all effect White’s commitment to stay?
BTW, could this at all effect White’s commitment to stay?
Agreed. The college game experience exceeds the NFL. To me the difference is the loyalty fans have to their alma mater. That loyalty extended to the players and their commitment to the institution. I wonder whether the complete destruction of player loyalty will erode the college experience over time. Players are purely rentals now. It used to be we could watch the players grow in the program over 4 years. Now we’re rooting for the school knowing the players are 100% replaceable. Just seems a bit more shallow, a bit more empty. Perhaps it would be better if NIL evolved into more of a pro-like contract? Minimum two year required commitment for any freshman with years 3 & 4 negotiable based upon NIL amount. Give the schools a bit more leverage in the negotiation and would provide more stability to the game and college experience.
It’s 2024. I think you mean next “xe” up.
He won't move needles for some but the New Mexico St. QB is probably within our price range, almost a 1000 yard rusher, and threw for 3000 yards and 26 TDs. Diego Pavia
I guess I'm out of touch with current events. I had to look up the meaning of xe.
I’ve learned that no matter what side of an issue you take, you‘ll be called dumb by someone out there. No matter how logical it may seem….on the topic at hand, just goes to show how much of a mess CFB is currently. There really is no logical reason for him to hit the portal, especially at this point, other than the fact that he can and maybe offered some more money. This is free agency without contracts. Just wild.
Your first point is spot on.
He was offered money and him and Marion dont get along as much as an OC and QB should. The latter is probably the easiest thing to see on tv. BUT, I believe the main issue is that Maiva was just not his pick. Marion didnt recruit him. Cant fault either of them.
He was going to transfer, it leaked, and it was an easy cover up and damage control because the other Maiava also entered the portal. Now here we are.
Ding ding ding. I say we make a run at JDL too. Those are my top 2.
Any word on what Arch Manning is going to do? Not that UNLV has a shot, but just wondering what his thought process is if Ewers returns. I would think that those NIL dollars would drop significantly for him if he's going to be the back up at UT again next year. Though I have not idea what the terms of his agreement were.
If Ewers returns Arch isn't staying at Texas. I'm surprised he actually stayed as the 3rd string.
