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Harper....The next UNLV head basketball coach

Buffel said:
Maryland fans say Turgean could recruit but couldn't Coach. especially his offense. Thought he had low expectations.
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He was more than competitive in the BIG:

2014–15Maryland28–714–42ndNCAA Division I Round of 32
2015–16Maryland27–912–6T–3rdNCAA Division I Sweet 16
2016–17Maryland24–912–6T–2ndNCAA Division I Round of 64
2017–18Maryland19–138–108th
2018–19Maryland23–1113–75thNCAA Division I Round of 32
2019–20Maryland24–714–6T–1stcanceled due to COVID-19 pandemic
2020–21Maryland17–149–11T–8thNCAA Division I Round of 32
2021–22Maryland5–30–0
 
Living in great state of MD, Turgean was ok recruiter, MD and especially PG County is hot bed for recruiting. Would he be good hire, yeah he be better then anyone combined since Lon was here. He do well here, top 30 I think, once in awhile sweet 16, and that would bring money to school and long term with football would help. There is no reason UNLV shouldn't be battling AZ/Gonzaga type programs. The crappy administration bringing in type low ceiling no winning coaches in shameful!
 
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UNLVINMD said:
Living in great state of MD, Turgean was ok recruiter, MD and especially PG County is hot bed for recruiting. Would he be good hire, yeah he be better then anyone combined since Lon was here. He do well here, top 30 I think, once in awhile sweet 16, and that would bring money to school and long term with football would help. There is no reason UNLV shouldn't be battling AZ/Gonzaga type programs. The crappy administration bringing in type low ceiling no winning coaches in shameful!
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I’m all aboard the Poser train, choo-choo!

But there are plenty of good opportunities left on OU’s slate, we will see what he does with them.
 
WW is like 20 years younger. The other 2 have been out of the game dont know how much impact they still have.
 
Or Harper could go the direction of the past two hires in the Mountain West. ( See below - Each has about a $ 625,000 annual contract ) We like to think a new coach would be worth $ 2 mil if he wins and brings in an average of 10,000 paying fans. But hiring on the cheap means we can break even if the crowds stay the same. Do it this way and keep slamming money in football and maybe a new cheap coach could win like Sprinkle did at Utah State. (His contract was $ 900,000) I'm not in favor of this, but Harper does have more options than some of us believe.

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WarthogRebel said:
Or Harper could go the direction of the past two hires in the Mountain West. ( See below - Each has about a $ 625,000 annual contract ) We like to think a new coach would be worth $ 2 mil if he wins and brings in an average of 10,000 paying fans. But hiring on the cheap means we can break even if the crowds stay the same. Do it this way and keep slamming money in football and maybe a new cheap coach could win like Sprinkle did at Utah State. (His contract was $ 900,000) I'm not in favor of this, but Harper does have more options than some of us believe.

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If it's just MW to pick from I would take:

1. Tim Miles
 
Buffel said:
Do we want a coach like Wade with all the negative baggage?
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When have we truly succeeded? With baggage.

His baggage, to me, is as misdemeanor as it gets, especially since it’s legal now.

Marshall has more baggage because he got physical with players. To me, NBD.

Don’t be Dave Bliss and I’ll be pretty ok with it.

Win, I don’t care about the other stuff.

Not worried about the NCAA. What’s the worst the can do, especially now that their fangless. Ban us from post season play? Um, ok. That’s what we are doing right now.

Get somebody who can win
 
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j. spilotro said:
When have we truly succeeded? With baggage.

His baggage, to me, is as misdemeanor as it gets, especially since it’s legal now.

Marshall has more baggage because he got physical with players. To me, NBD.

Don’t be Dave Bliss and I’ll be pretty ok with it.

Win, I don’t care about the other stuff.

Not worried about the NCAA. What’s the worst the can do, especially now that their fangless. Ban us from post season play? Um, ok. That’s what we are doing right now.

Get somebody who can win
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At least we would have someone with a good nickname again. Instead of Tark the Shark we'll have Wiretap Wade! 😅
 
TimothyC3 said:
Kelvin Sampson didn’t dance until year 4 at Houston:

2014–15Houston13–194–1410th
2015–16Houston22–1012–6T–3rdNIT First Round
2016–17Houston21–1112–63rdNIT First Round
2017–18Houston27–814–4T–2ndNCAA Division I Round of 32
2018–19Houston33–416–21stNCAA Division I Sweet 16
2019–20Houston23–813–5T–1stNo postseason held
2020–21Houston28–414–32ndNCAA Division I Final Four
2021–22Houston32–615–31stNCAA Division I Elite Eight
2022–23Houston33–417–11stNCAA Division I Sweet 16
Houston Cougars (Big 12 Conference) (2023–present)​
2023–24Houston32–515–31stNCAA Division I Sweet 16
2024–25Houston20–412–1
Houston:284–83 (.774)144–48 (.750)
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Yeah but look at the progressive improvement year over year. Is that happening here? Any indication things are about to change for the better?
 
unlove said:
Yeah but look at the progressive improvement year over year. Is that happening here? Any indication things are about to change for the better?
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No.

And it’s not the fault of the fans.

UNLV milked every nanoliter of goodwill of the fan base with a decade plus of not close to an NCAA bid. The seven/eight years prior were acceptable (LK after his first two years through Rice’s first two years yielded something like 6 of 7 years in the NCAAT, 1 NIT). That’s acceptable.

Baynos last year, spoons years and LKs first two years were not acceptable (no NCAA, NIT 5 of six years).
 
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No.

And it’s not the fault of the fans.

UNLV milked every nanoliter of goodwill of the fan base with a decade plus of not close to an NCAA bid. The seven/eight years prior were acceptable (LK after his first two years through Rice’s first two years yielded something like 6 of 7 years in the NCAAT, 1 NIT). That’s acceptable.

Baynos last year, spoons years and LKs first two years were not acceptable (no NCAA, NIT 5 of six years).
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NIT in a first or second season, followed by an NCAA appearance, acceptable at this stage of where we are at.

Nothing, nothing, back door NIT, nothing…
Pathetic.
 
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bcvegaspt2 said:
NIT in a first or second season, followed by an NCAA appearance, acceptable at this stage of where we are at.

Nothing, nothing, back door NIT, nothing…
Pathetic.
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Again … a great barometer is … how are the fans responding? Are they showing up? Is it an energetic atmosphere. Even successful times, you’ll have some lulls with holidays, an odd start times, really bad opponent, but those should be the acceptable exceptions. Take it on the whole of a season, how is it? If it needs 7 lbs of viagra, things aren’t going well.

I hate for it to happen to any coach because it ends up being a stay of execution, everyone knows what’s going on … and it just plays out.

I wish he had a major epiphany, a light switch went off … but with his style, demeanor, attitude … I don’t have faith that we will see any of that happen. You can’t be the 6th/7th/8th “best team” overall in your conference through your career unless it’s a power conference, can’t do that in a mediocre conference.

You just cross your fingers, hope things change with him and if not, hope a good hire is made.
 
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Buffel said:
In real life if you don't do your job you can get fired. If Harp believes Kevin's not doing the job he will be fired. I'm sure Harp has layed out his expectations to Coach K K. and Coach knows what's at stake.
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You’re right. Most of us mere mortals are judged at work by how well we perform. Merit based (hopefully).

Year to year, the four year period … whether you are at Wyoming (might be good enough there), CSU … you’re getting canned. It would work for AFA. It doesn’t work here. Compare to other coaches of the past, he’s most similar to Marv. If he were a student, he’d be carrying a 1.8 GPA.

That’s how I see it. I think that’s how most see it.
 
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This interview is a few years old, but it is a good refresher. Hard to know where to stand on this guy. Can definitely coach or, at least, he could last anyone knew, but the dude has mega-baggage. And how radioactive is he when it comes to building a staff? Don't know if UNLV is willing to take on the checkered pasts like they used to. I'll trust Harp on this because I think he's earned a measure of trust, but we can't miss on this.

Jeff Goodman talks Marshall at WSU
 
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j. spilotro said:
You’re right. Most of us mere mortals are judged at work by how well we perform. Merit based (hopefully).

Year to year, the four year period … whether you are at Wyoming (might be good enough there), CSU … you’re getting canned. It would work for AFA. It doesn’t work here. Compare to other coaches of the past, he’s most similar to Marv. If he were a student, he’d be carrying a 1.8 GPA.

That’s how I see it. I think that’s how most see it.
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I guess you haven't been around big corporations or governmental employees where mer
 
RebelSoldat said:
What has Tim Miles done at SJSU to make us think he wouldn't be an older version of Kevin Kruger?
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He will never do anything there. It's his previous two stops where he earned his chops. CSU and Nebraska. He left Nebraska as the 3rd winningest coach in their history and most of us remember how good he was at CSU. I think he made a horrible mistake going to SJSU. Basketball players don't go there. The one season he did really good was because he had one really good player. That player transferred and he doesn't have much to work with.

Good coach, experienced, and has proven he can win at the right place. He would do better at UNLV. Plus he is affordable and that is something to consider instead of all the dream coaches some "think" we can get. CKK compared to Tim has never done shit.
 
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RebelSoldat said:
What has Tim Miles done at SJSU to make us think he wouldn't be an older version of Kevin Kruger?
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SJSU athletics is terrible and doesnt invest in its programs. Their football program over-performed with Cordero and Brennan. Their own boosters are actively discussing on X spaces how they dont have the NIL money to compete for players so they're looking mainly Juco guys for football.. If football is that bad, why on earth would basketball be any better. Not sure he'd be better but Miles is definitely a better coach and this program lacks good coaching..
 
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Masked_rebel said:
SJSU athletics is terrible and doesnt invest in its programs. Their football program over-performed with Cordero and Brennan. Their own boosters are actively discussing on X spaces how they dont have the NIL money to compete for players so they're looking mainly Juco guys for football.. If football is that bad, why on earth would basketball be any better. Not sure he'd be better but Miles is definitely a better coach and this program lacks good coaching..
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You have to admit that SJSU has been getting to bowl games with their meager recruiting and until the last 2 years they were going bowling far more than they should with their poor football program.

I use to long for their kind of success here for the Rebels but now the beast has been poked and UNLV football has been awakened!
 
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He will never do anything there. It's his previous two stops where he earned his chops. CSU and Nebraska. He left Nebraska as the 3rd winningest coach in their history and most of us remember how good he was at CSU. I think he made a horrible mistake going to SJSU. Basketball players don't go there. The one season he did really good was because he had one really good player. That player transferred and he doesn't have much to work with.

Good coach, experienced, and has proven he can win at the right place. He would do better at UNLV. Plus he is affordable and that is something to consider instead of all the dream coaches some "think" we can get. CKK compared to Tim has never done shit.
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I don’t get the Tim miles love at all. At csu
He had a .447 winning percentage.

Tim Miles (born August 20, 1966)​

Current position: Head men’s basketball coach
Current team: San José State Spartans
Current conference: Mountain West Conference (MWC)
Mayville State record^: 35–22 (.614)
Southwest Minnesota State record^: 78–39 (.667)
North Dakota State record^: 99-71 (.582)
Colorado State record: 71-88 (.447)
Nebraska record: 116-114 (.504)
San José State record: 38-60 (.388)
Overall record^: 437-394 (.526)
 
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Niles at CSU. Was 16-47 1st 2 years made NCAA his last yr.
He's better then KK, you put KK at San Jose team is AF every yr.

That said, no on Mike's, need a coach who wants Running Rebels, not walking Rebels.
 
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UNLVINMD said:
Niles at CSU. Was 16-47 1st 2 years made NCAA his last yr.
He's better then KK, you put KK at San Jose team is AF every yr.

That said, no on Mike's, need a coach who wants Running Rebels, not walking Rebels.
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Don’t get me wrong I think he’s the guy you hire to stabilize a program similar to what Fresno state is going through. But the way people talk about him just baffles me. It’s not like csu doesn’t have any resources.
 
hrz702 said:
I don’t get the Tim miles love at all. At csu
He had a .447 winning percentage.

Tim Miles (born August 20, 1966)​

Current position: Head men’s basketball coach
Current team: San José State Spartans
Current conference: Mountain West Conference (MWC)
Mayville State record^: 35–22 (.614)
Southwest Minnesota State record^: 78–39 (.667)
North Dakota State record^: 99-71 (.582)
Colorado State record: 71-88 (.447)
Nebraska record: 116-114 (.504)
San José State record: 38-60 (.388)
Overall record^: 437-394 (.526)
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Someone was making a case for a couple of other MW coaches and I simply responded to that which was Miles was a better option imo than the other mentioned MW coaches. So, no love. And, as for those that bring up Craig Smith they seem to forget that he is from the Tim Miles tree. Craig was with Tim at NDSU, CSU, and Nebraska. So, if your looking for something different than Tim you really aren't going to get it with Craig. Just sayin.
 
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Someone was making a case for a couple of other MW coaches and I simply responded to that which was Miles was a better option imo than the other mentioned MW coaches. So, no love. And, as for those that bring up Craig Smith they seem to forget that he is from the Tim Miles tree. Craig was with Tim at NDSU, CSU, and Nebraska. So, if your looking for something different than Tim you really aren't going to get it with Craig. Just sayin.
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Not you particularly, I just see a lot of love for him in general. My apologies if I put words in your mouth.
 
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j. spilotro said:
I’m all aboard the Poser train, choo-choo!

But there are plenty of good opportunities left on OU’s slate, we will see what he does with them.
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He just beat Miss State.

4 of his 10 losses are to top 5 teams. Top 5. He has 4 wins of top 25 teams.

You are right, he may not make the tournament this year. But his time at OU has been in the toughest league in the country, even with the switch this year.

The rest of his games are Q1. Half of them against ranked opponents.

If he had the same non con, and then played in the MW. He would be top 15, alone in first place in the league and looking at a 5 seed.

I am NOT saying we need to go after Moser, not at all. I am just saying that it is absolutely ridiculous that you think that you know better than a professional head hunting firm and a very good athletic department.

Oh, btw, he also made a sweet 16 at Loyola after his final four, a place where it is nearly impossible to make the tourney, let alone win a game.

So when are you opening the JS consulting firm and quitting the day job? Experts got get paid for what they do best, right?


Right?
 
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OU beat Missouri get to 19 wins they will be in NCAA! You put OU in MWC they win the conference.
Aztecs have been the only program to compete in NCAA and do something, Reno had 1 run and that's MWC. Conference can't compete.

Only want UNLV to compete in MWC, shouldn't be that hard
 
dcut03 said:
He just beat Miss State.

4 of his 10 losses are to top 5 teams. Top 5. He has 4 wins of top 25 teams.

You are right, he may not make the tournament this year. But his time at OU has been in the toughest league in the country, even with the switch this year.

The rest of his games are Q1. Half of them against ranked opponents.

If he had the same non con, and then played in the MW. He would be top 15, alone in first place in the league and looking at a 5 seed.

I am NOT saying we need to go after Moser, not at all. I am just saying that it is absolutely ridiculous that you think that you know better than a professional head hunting firm and a very good athletic department.

Oh, btw, he also made a sweet 16 at Loyola after his final four, a place where it is nearly impossible to make the tourney, let alone win a game.

So when are you opening the JS consulting firm and quitting the day job? Experts got get paid for what they do best, right?


Right?
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Yeah, he’s doing great there. In fact, I’m hearing UConn might fire Hurley and hire Poser.

1 NCAA tournament this year in four years is not good enough for OU. If it was, more than half the fan base wouldn’t be screaming for his firing. Whether he makes it this year or not, that’s not good enough for OU. I don’t know why you are pumping him up as doing well. He took over a program that was regularly making the NCAAT and now, they hope for a bubble. And that’s even if he doesn’t make it. If he doesn’t, it’s another NIT. If you think that’s what OU was expecting, you just don’t get it. You are absolutely head over heels in love with non successful slow growthers that extend contracts while yielding shit and you play up shit as being good enough. You did it with Marvelous, you did it with KK, you do it with Poser. You must be heavily into the beta end of S&M.
 
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