CBS Sports video on PAC-12 expansion that mentions UNLV

[dcut03]

I buy that.

I also buy UNLV looking at the PAC as a fallback option.

I can’t see us remaining in the MWC and can’t see the MWC surviving at any level that keeps them from being the lowest tier, if at all.

Ultimately yes. UNLV would rather have the Big 12.

But there was a big reason we weren't part of the 4. And from all reports we didn't turn anything down. It looks like we were blindsided

The stark truth of this is UNLV doesn't get enough ratings to be a part of the top 4 of the MW. It was decision driven completely by economics.

Because of that it seem less likely that the Big 12 sends an invite to us anytime soon. If we show out after being ranked, get a bunch of people to Allegiant and more importantly significantly more eyeballs on tvs and this keeps up the rest of the season, especially if somehow we make the playoff then I can see maybe, just maybe Big 12.

But if the PAC asks tomorrow I think UNLV takes it

 

[j. spilotro]

Ultimately yes. UNLV would rather have the Big 12.

But there was a big reason we weren't part of the 4. And from all reports we didn't turn anything down. It looks like we were blindsided

The stark truth of this is UNLV doesn't get enough ratings to be a part of the top 4 of the MW. It was decision driven completely by economics.

Because of that it seem less likely that the Big 12 sends an invite to us anytime soon. If we show out after being ranked, get a bunch of people to Allegiant and more importantly significantly more eyeballs on tvs and this keeps up the rest of the season, especially if somehow we make the playoff then I can see maybe, just maybe Big 12.

But if the PAC asks tomorrow I think UNLV takes it

If they asked yesterday and we said no, why would we say yes tomorrow?

 

[Rod_the_Rebel]

We are going to rot

 

[dcut03]

If they asked yesterday and we said no, why would we say yes tomorrow?

I don't think they even asked. That's my point.

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

I don't think they even asked. That's my point.

Yeah I don’t think so either based upon the board member responses it doesn’t sound like they ever were.

 

[LVRebel2000]

Yeah I don’t think so either based upon the board member responses it doesn’t sound like they ever were.

Would they have had to know about it if the unlv president and AD never took it to them? Assuming (big assumption) that they're working ro join the Big 12, its possible they said no to the PAC without ever running it by the regents. This is purely hypothetical but it would be plausible in that situation. You'd have to have a lot of confidence in getting invited to the Big 12 though, to turn it down on the first pass.

 

[oneepstein]

I buy that.

I also buy UNLV looking at the PAC as a fallback option.

I can’t see us remaining in the MWC and can’t see the MWC surviving at any level that keeps them from being the lowest tier, if at all.

MWC dead for sure. What he says in the video about this being a hostile takeover is the most important part… a takeover doesn’t stop at 4.

All this has way more to do with future litigation and a negotiated buyout agreement for all the teams from the MWC that they want… UNLV and ?

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

Would they have had to know about it if the unlv president and AD never took it to them? Assuming (big assumption) that they're working ro join the Big 12, its possible they said no to the PAC without ever running it by the regents. This is purely hypothetical but it would be plausible in that situation. You'd have to have a lot of confidence in getting invited to the Big 12 though, to turn it down on the first pass.

They wouldn't have had to know I am certain they didn't at this point, but just based upon what a few of them had said though it sounds like we were never invited in the first place. That we are option C, option A is the four they took and option B is some other schools that if they don't pan out they will come back to us.

 

[WYNN or Dye]

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[Meister_Rebel]

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reno shouldn't even be on that list. Somebody just wasted their time on the twitters.

 

[WYNN or Dye]

reno shouldn't even be on that list. Somebody just wasted their time on the twitters.

I, think they have Reno that high, because this X account (assumed) UNR, was tied to the hip to UNLV.
If, he knew the truth. UNR, would not be on the list.
I, think USF. Should, be on the list. They, are getting some steam.

 

[RebelScrub]

We are going to rot

That’s a high possibility as well.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

#25 in the ratings carries some weight when up against programs in smaller markets! Ratings are based on what have you done for me now not the past, and currently UNLV is a hot commodity!

I don't disagree. But we've seen this dance before.

CU went from B12 to PAC back to BIG12 and they were not very good for a long stretch of time.

It's not always about results. Boise State has been pretty damn good for quite a long time and yet no offers in expansion.

In no way suggesting that results don't matter, they do, but there are other factors in play. Outside looking in UNLV seems to have done enough academically, upgraded facilities both basketball and football play in state of the art stadium.

Why they weren't considered over CSU is curious to say the least.

One argument I heard was Vegas has become a pro sports town. Sure that's true but Colorado us all about the Bronos, Avs and Nuggets and it took hiring D. Sanders for CU to get any attention.

So much of this doesn't make sense.

 

[RebelScrub]

I don't disagree. But we've seen this dance before.

CU went from B12 to PAC back to BIG12 and they were not very good for a long stretch of time.

It's not always about results. Boise State has been pretty damn good for quite a long time and yet no offers in expansion.

In no way suggesting that results don't matter, they do, but there are other factors in play. Outside looking in UNLV seems to have done enough academically, upgraded facilities both basketball and football play in state of the art stadium.

Why they weren't considered over CSU is curious to say the least.

One argument I heard was Vegas has become a pro sports town. Sure that's true but Colorado us all about the Bronos, Avs and Nuggets and it took hiring D. Sanders for CU to get any attention.

So much of this doesn't make sense.

I was at Target today getting my medications and I wore my UNLv fishing hat. Some guy was wearing Cornhusker gear. We instantly just started talking about the Huskers beating up Deion and Bud Crawford leading the stampede.

He said holy cow, I never seen UNLV this good in football. I said no, this is like 40 year draught that ended. You gotta watch us in football. Him and his wife agreed.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

I was at Target today getting my medications and I wore my UNLv fishing hat. Some guy was wearing Cornhusker gear. We instantly just started talking about the Huskers beating up Deion and Bud Crawford leading the stampede.

He said holy cow, I never seen UNLV this good in football. I said no, this is like 40 year draught that ended. You gotta watch us in football. Him and his wife agreed.

If you had been wearing the bath robe yoga pants and green cowboy hat that conversation would have gone much differently...

 

[RebelScrub]

If you had been wearing the bath robe yoga pants and green cowboy hat that conversation would have gone much differently...

No it would have gone the same!! Cause I talk to random strangers the same!!

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

No it would have gone the same!! Cause I talk to random strangers the same!!

I assure you. You approach anyone in yoga pants a plastic green cowboy hat a bath robe and a care bear t shirt that conversation is going in a different direction...

Probably involving security. 😀

 

[WarthogRebel]

If you had been wearing the bath robe yoga pants and green cowboy hat that conversation would have gone much differently...

How did you know what I wear to Target?

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

How did you know what I wear to Target?

It's the cowboy hat that ties it together

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

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How reputable is this book they got Montana State listed 2x..At 2 different prices..

 

[Rebel1986]

I don't disagree. But we've seen this dance before.

CU went from B12 to PAC back to BIG12 and they were not very good for a long stretch of time.

It's not always about results. Boise State has been pretty damn good for quite a long time and yet no offers in expansion.

In no way suggesting that results don't matter, they do, but there are other factors in play. Outside looking in UNLV seems to have done enough academically, upgraded facilities both basketball and football play in state of the art stadium.

Why they weren't considered over CSU is curious to say the least.

One argument I heard was Vegas has become a pro sports town. Sure that's true but Colorado us all about the Bronos, Avs and Nuggets and it took hiring D. Sanders for CU to get any attention.

So much of this doesn't make sense.

I have no clue.

CSU average 26,509 per game in 2023 while UNLV average 23,661. CSU did get 36,573 at their first game this year and 40,099 at their home game verse Colorado. So far this season CSU is kicking butt with attendance.

UNLV had 24,512 at their first game against Utah Tech. It wouldn't hurt for UNLV to get at least 30K against Fresno State. I know that UNLV and Odom are doing everything they can to boost the attendance. In order to make UNLV a good target for merger they need to stay over 30K per game.

UNLV has played the better schedule so far with games against Houston and Kansas in comparison to CSU playing Texas (they were nothing but cannon fodder in that game), and Colorado who also won easily. UNLV still has Syracuse to play which will give UNLV games against 3 teams from the Power Four conferences in comparison to two for CSU. CSU is 0-2 with two bad loses while UNLV is 2-0.

UNLV football is ranked in the top 25 while CSU is in competition for the bottom 10 ranking!

UNLV is getting hundreds of stories in the media on a national level. CSU is getting crickets!

Let Odom do his thing and keep winning, and things will fix themselves naturally!

 

[WYNN or Dye]

Latest news from Memphis/Tulane,
According to the article. USF, is staying in the AAC, whether Memphis/Tulane stay or go.
Memphis/Tulane, are 50/50. If, they are going to the Pac 12.
Eliminating, USF. Increases, UNLV's chance of going to the Pac 12.

 

[WYNN or Dye]

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

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Canzano is solid.

Not sure on other source.

 

[WYNN or Dye]

Canzano is solid.

Not sure on other source.

Agree, Canzano really knows the Pac 12.
I, was depressed last night and this morning.
But, now I'm feeling a little better after this news.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Agree, Canzano really knows the Pac 12.
I, was depressed last night and this morning.
But, now I'm feeling a little better after this news.

I think AAC schools and how many will dictate a lot.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Agree, Canzano really knows the Pac 12.
I, was depressed last night and this morning.
But, now I'm feeling a little better after this news.

I despise being a fence sitter.

But..

I think it's 50-50.

I'm pulling for AAC to circle wagons somehow to keep Memphis and Tulane.

 

[WYNN or Dye]

I despise being a fence sitter.

But..

I think it's 50-50.

I'm pulling for AAC to circle wagons somehow to keep Memphis and Tulane.

Yes, I am surprised Memphis doesn't want to get 17 Million dollars. They, are 50/50.
Memphis, is the key here. If, Memphis doesn't go. Then, good chance Tulane stays in the AAC to.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Yes, I am surprised Memphis doesn't want to get 17 Million dollars. They, are 50/50.
Memphis, is the key here. If, Memphis doesn't go. Then, good chance Tulane stays in the AAC to.

USF likely not in mix. Travel expenses would be insane. Logistics are brutal.

UTSA doesn't have a ton of money so buyout/exit fee could be problematic.

A lot of the dollar totals being thrown around are pretty speculative.

I've been guilty of throwing them around myself.

We'll see.

Hoping for best expecting the worst.

Not sure what AAC can do to keep Memphis or Tulane.

9 million a year TV deal a lot to leave on the table.

 

[Meister_Rebel]

Yes, I am surprised Memphis doesn't want to get 17 Million dollars. They, are 50/50.
Memphis, is the key here. If, Memphis doesn't go. Then, good chance Tulane stays in the AAC to.

I'm hoping Memphis stays and then Tulane stays. For me I want UNLV to bounce to the AAC. I have a feeling that is the best thing we can do for our future. The AAC would be awesome. Sure the travel will be an issue but Lady Rebel basketball and Football will thrive. Time to move on. From the WAC not wanting us for many years to the PAC not wanting us now I am so sick of the West coast nonsense. I'm ready. Go Rebels.

 

[Mojo702]

I wish the Big 12 would invite UNLV so we can tell the PAC to go f*ck themselves

 

[Rebel1986]

USF likely not in mix. Travel expenses would be insane. Logistics are brutal.

UTSA doesn't have a ton of money so buyout/exit fee could be problematic.

A lot of the dollar totals being thrown around are pretty speculative.

I've been guilty of throwing them around myself.

We'll see.

Hoping for best expecting the worst.

Not sure what AAC can do to keep Memphis or Tulane.

9 million a year TV deal a lot to leave on the table.

I am not sure there would be a huge difference in cost between Tampa (USF) and Memphis in regards to flying out west to play teams in the PAC. Both would need to spend millions in additional funds between all their different teams. Travelling to Washington State, Oregon State, Boise State, Fresno State and StDSU will all be long trips. The PAC should have been named the NWPAC! Can you imagine the cost to go from Tampa to Eugene to play Oregon State (3000+ miles) or Memphis 2270+ miles)

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

I am not sure there would be a huge difference in cost between Tampa (USF) and Memphis in regards to flying out west to play teams in the PAC. Both would need to spend millions in additional funds between all their different teams. Travelling to Washington State, Oregon State, Boise State, Fresno State and StDSU will all be long trips. The PAC should have been named the NWPAC! Can you imagine the cost to go from Tampa to Eugene to play Oregon State (3000+ miles) or Memphis 2270+ miles)

That is an absolutely brutal travel schedule.

I'm hoping Memphis is playing the PAC for a better piece of the pie in the AAC.

But a lot of smoke from some pretty credible sources writes etc who feel that deal is close.

I just want the best result for UNLV that's it.

 

[Rebel1986]

That is an absolutely brutal travel schedule.

I'm hoping Memphis is playing the PAC for a better piece of the pie in the AAC.

But a lot of smoke from some pretty credible sources writes etc who feel that deal is close.

I just want the best result for UNLV that's it.

UNLV just needs to keep winning. In regards to the TV rating for UNLV, that is all a bunch of BS. UNLV sucked in football until recently, so of course nobody watched them on TV. With the way UNLV has played last year and this season, the past viewership numbers mean nothing.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

UNLV just needs to keep winning. In regards to the TV rating for UNLV, that is all a bunch of BS. UNLV sucked in football until recently, so of course nobody watched them on TV. With the way UNLV has played last year and this season, the past viewership numbers mean nothing.

I don't disagree.

Winning helps a lot and will draw eyeballs.

I just personally think sustainability could be impacted playing in a lesser conference than we are currently.

That's it.

 

[Rebel1986]

I don't disagree.

Winning helps a lot and will draw eyeballs.

I just personally think sustainability could be impacted playing in a lesser conference than we are currently.

That's it.

I do not expect UNLV to stay in the MWC.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

I do not expect UNLV to stay in the MWC.

We'll see...I'm hoping not....

 

[WYNN or Dye]

I'm hoping Memphis stays and then Tulane stays. For me I want UNLV to bounce to the AAC. I have a feeling that is the best thing we can do for our future. The AAC would be awesome. Sure the travel will be an issue but Lady Rebel basketball and Football will thrive. Time to move on. From the WAC not wanting us for many years to the PAC not wanting us now I am so sick of the West coast nonsense. I'm ready. Go Rebels.

If, we joined the AAC. UNLV, would be the one to suffer in traveling the most.
That's, why I want the Pac 12. No, matter how many times. They, don't want us. As, we are their last resort and they run out of options.