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Bad Day For The PAC12

I still can’t get over the name Albertsons Stadium. Was Piggly Wiggly Stadium taken?
The billionaire Albertson family run that state through their, obvious, national grocery store chain and multimple subsidiary massive potato operations in Idaho....and real estate holdings in Cache Valley Utah. I guess the name can be perceived as silly but there is a reasonBoise State rose from FCS to top 15 FBS program in a couple years.

Remember when 6 wins was a pipe dream?

Yep!

I remember debating with several football insiders who made excuse after excuse for coaches like Arroyo. The problem was always, UNLV made the wrong hires for football, up and coming assistants who had no idea how to run a program. Now we see that the former HC can get things headed in the right direction rather quickly because they aren’t learning on the job.

I remember when 6-6 was a pipe dream just 2 years ago!

Who's the next school to get poached.

We have a thread about potential MWC expansion targets. This whole thing is still super fluid so anything can happen.

Does the PAC circle back and make another run at Memphis with a better offer this time? I don't know. That exit fee is pretty steep. Can they make an offer that makes sense for Memphis to leave. Memphis has eyes/hopes on an ACC bid and have to figure they'd take an offer from. BIG12 if they came calling or ACC.

I don't think either conference wants to dip into FCS except as last resort.

Almost feels like a game of chicken now. Next move by either will set things off.

Anybody want to guess what piece/school comes off the board 1st?

My guess is Texas State..
The PAC HAS to shoot their shot with the AAC schools. It's the only way they save face in this round of realignments. They got the Traitor 4 to commit by promising a better TV based on the addition of the AAC. It didn't happen.

I think you're right, D'baby Bull. Texas State should be our next target and see what other Texas schools we can add. Then add NMSU and UTEP and call it a day.

NEW CONFERENCE YES OR NO

They are only giving out half the PAC money use the rest to get two decent teams whether that be UTSA and Texas State or whoever. NMSU is a dead end.
Theresa is getting into a desperate state of mind. At this point I don't think she cares how much of OSU & WSU money she spends. I guess OSU & WSU have no debt or major projects to invest that money into. Kudos to them. I still think they are out of their minds when they could still have a conference and have the two best funded athletic departments in the conference for decades by not spending a dime on expansion had they done a reverse merger. Dumbest thing ever just to appease some egos.

So you're telling me there's a chance

Looking at the schedule... is there a game we wont be favored? BSU, maybe? I am not so sure we wont be a 1-2 pt favorite in that game. Oregon state? Maybe.. could see us being a small dog there.

Syracuse- we are opening up the favorite

Utah st - we should win

Oregon State - think this will be a battle could see us slipping up here looking forward to BSU, I hope not I will be there!

Boise - statement game for the MWC championship

Hawaii - we should win here...

SDSU - I want to crush them.. has to be a W

San Jose - they are always tough could be a tight game, but we will win.

Reno - we must continue to dominate them, big W

I may be riding the high right now, but as of this moment I dont think its unrealistic to count on double digit wins before the post season starts. I see 4 games that are going to be the toughest even if we went 2-2 in those if we win the rest thats 10 wins there. I dont think thats unrealistic.

Lets go Rebs!!!
That’s how I see it. Every game is huge at this point, just want to see the same team that showed up against Fresno do the same to Syracuse.

Side note… with the two on the road and on grass after that, maybe the first one being against an easier opponent than the following one is a good set up?
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UNLV Stays Put MWC

If there is a sliver of truth to Sluka's claims, mainly if it was Marion that promised him something, then that may hurt their relationship. We all know Marion is looking for the next thing. Some may think it will be the HC here. But I wonder if this expedite's his departure at all?
At the very least there needs to be full communication with the staff and the collective at all times. All offers need to be vetted first.

Again, it is very possible that it was and Sluka is lying through his teeth, made up this story to justify asking for more money 3 games in.
I think I read somewhere that the NIL system is changing next year so that the university actually has control of it or something like that, not really sure.

Who's the next school to get poached.

We have a thread about potential MWC expansion targets. This whole thing is still super fluid so anything can happen.

Does the PAC circle back and make another run at Memphis with a better offer this time? I don't know. That exit fee is pretty steep. Can they make an offer that makes sense for Memphis to leave. Memphis has eyes/hopes on an ACC bid and have to figure they'd take an offer from. BIG12 if they came calling or ACC.

I don't think either conference wants to dip into FCS except as last resort.

Almost feels like a game of chicken now. Next move by either will set things off.

Anybody want to guess what piece/school comes off the board 1st?

My guess is Texas State..
Makes sense… they DO have “state” in their name.

But yeah… game of chicken.

I think it’s closer to a stalemate or even close to a checkmate by the MW. The MW is in a no lose situation, whoever gets picked up isn’t going to materially affect how the conference is viewed AND all of its teams, especially UNLV and AFA, will get substantial payments to help their programs.

The PAC however is losing pretty badly at this point, specifically the original 2. It’s already cost them a boatload of cash and they don’t have a conference yet. They can either make another run at Memphis for more cash, but Im not sure if they even paid the full buyout if Memphis would think it was worth it without at least one other team closer to them (read: more cash), or…

They add (insert name of crappy no name team here). No amount of spin is gonna polish whatever turd they add.

Would they be a better conference than the MW? Reasonably I’d say yes, but they most certainly won’t be the dominant G5 they thought they were going to be, and they burned a whole ton of resources to do almost nothing for themselves.

Frankly a merger is their best hope. Let the others back in with a penalty, and let the PAC 2 in at a cost of whatever bonuses were promised to those who stayed.

UNLV Stays Put MWC

It's a story all the sewer merchants like Steven A. and Clay Travis can yank it over for a few weeks. Then nobody will remember.
Let's see if it's brought up again on national media. I think us crushing Fresno, along with whatever the new 'controversy' is, will switch people away from us.

That being said, I don't mind being the "Sinners" again. Tark's teams didn't hide from it. Barry should embrace it!

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I think he has a good shot, as well as Catalon, RW, Baldwin, Oliver, etc. We have a great group right now
I thought there was just no chance after last season. He just didn't have the size. But he bulked up a lot after last season and seems even faster. The broadcast though he was similar to Luke Kuechly (sp?) which is both a great comparison and extremely high praise.
But I can see it now.
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Hypothetical: if the traitor schools decide to come back

One of the worst parts of committing to the MW last week, at least initially for me, was committing to a conference that has extreme exit fees. Learning that we had that P4 free pass made things significantly different.
Merging at this point has 2 draw backs. 1. Not getting that bonus money, which could still happen with poaching fees, but maybe not. We need that cash to extend Odom. The buyout isn't good enough to keep this thing going right now.
Again merger seems very far fetched right now, but yes. It would be a better per team payout for the MW schools, not for the PAC schools. It will be the best G5 conference easy, which is good.
But if we lose the P4 free pass, eff that. If we are at 17-18 mill for two years now? What happens with the next contract? 12 mil or more for every contract year? 60 mil if the Big 12 comes calling in 2 years?
Eff that. Those exit fees are reason enough to separate from the conference.
Again we will see what they actually end up being, but still. We aren't the freaking ACC, but our exit fees are, perhaps worse.
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So you're telling me there's a chance

Looking at the schedule... is there a game we wont be favored? BSU, maybe? I am not so sure we wont be a 1-2 pt favorite in that game. Oregon state? Maybe.. could see us being a small dog there.

Syracuse- we are opening up the favorite

Utah st - we should win

Oregon State - think this will be a battle could see us slipping up here looking forward to BSU, I hope not I will be there!

Boise - statement game for the MWC championship

Hawaii - we should win here...

SDSU - I want to crush them.. has to be a W

San Jose - they are always tough could be a tight game, but we will win.

Reno - we must continue to dominate them, big W

I may be riding the high right now, but as of this moment I dont think its unrealistic to count on double digit wins before the post season starts. I see 4 games that are going to be the toughest even if we went 2-2 in those if we win the rest thats 10 wins there. I dont think thats unrealistic.

Lets go Rebs!!!
We should be the favorite in every game except OSU as you said is hard to tell. That said, being the favorite doesn't mean you win them all and at some point they become the hunted and not the hunter. They won't be able to afford to let up say vs SJSU (who pummeled us last year). The biggest challenge for them is having to beat BSU twice (as far as the CFP goes). Boise is good and it is hard to beat a good team twice. Though I could see losing to them in the regular season but beating them in the conference title game and still going to the CFP. But we are a long way from all that. Syracuse is next will focus on that.
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NEW CONFERENCE YES OR NO

I think the PAC is going to throw the kitchen sink at UTSA. It's the least damaging to their media deal, makes sense regionally for the last addition and makes it easier for them to pick off Memphis, Tulane, and USF next round. It's the only thing I see making sense. The PAC are going to give us UTEP, Texas State, etc... but they're going to drive up the cost just out of spite. It's exactly what I would do in their current situation. Because the MWC teams are shutoff, they have no choice but to go east from here on out.

PAC is cooked if they take any other route.

For this reason, we need to offer UTSA and get them in a bidding war as well. Really emptying the PAC's wallet further.
They are only giving out half the PAC money use the rest to get two decent teams whether that be UTSA and Texas State or whoever. NMSU is a dead end.

UNLV Stays Put MWC

If there is a sliver of truth to Sluka's claims, mainly if it was Marion that promised him something, then that may hurt their relationship. We all know Marion is looking for the next thing. Some may think it will be the HC here. But I wonder if this expedite's his departure at all?
At the very least there needs to be full communication with the staff and the collective at all times. All offers need to be vetted first.

Again, it is very possible that it was and Sluka is lying through his teeth, made up this story to justify asking for more money 3 games in.

NEW CONFERENCE YES OR NO

I thought during the original stadium plans they were talking about doing the mechanical curtains for the top deck during UNLV games. It looks a lot better than straight tarps. The Atlanta MLS team plays in a NFL stadium but it looks pretty nice without the 400 level seats showing.

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There you go. Get creative. Make it look great. Until we can worry about getting 40k+ fans anyways.
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