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ESPN ARTICLE DETAILING WHAT WENT DOWN

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I know we were hoping that we were the ones that said no, but I never thought that was the case. And outside of this board, I haven’t seen anywhere that the AAC is talking about us, much less the Big 12. Hope I am wrong and we can land on our feet somewhere, but it is a little concerning that we weren’t talked about much and are considered as no more than a plan B option. Of course decades of ineptitude does tend to do that.
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IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

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dcut03 said:
I don't think that the MW could entice any legacy AAC school. Not enough money for that.

I can see a potential merger if the AAC gets raided as well.

I don't think the fees for CUSA would be much, since these are based off of contract worth, and they don't get that much currently. it is worth 750k pre school annually and they are in year 3 of a 5 year contract
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I think thats what most of these G5s are really looking at in the future. I still dont see how the Pac 12 thinks its getting an AAC level pay out. If you're a TV media group, why are you paying that... What product are you really getting besides the limited name recognition Boise may bring and SDSU may bring. does Tulane and Memphis really draw the dollars? Who are they talking with that they're being sold a huge payday? Or is it simply their way of dismantling the MWC while keeping their cash and ditching a few mediocre programs in their wake because we had the stuff to tell them, you're over rated and need us...
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How to increase UNLV's digital footprint

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reagan21 said:
I can't remember who it was but we were trying to sub and we weren't going to have enough time so our right DE just fell to the ground. Woodward picked him up and luckily Kansas was slow to get the play in....they false start anyway.

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I thought the KU players laughed a little too hard and their bodies moved.
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reagan21 said:
I watched 3 quarters of the Fresno game. They're good. That will be a tough win for us. A larger crowd would obviously help. The bye is going to help us. Our improved defense is going to help us. If we try to run 75% of the time there will be a lot of 3 and outs. Passing the ball will be a must. I do think Keene is turnover prone. We will need to force him into throws he doesn't want to make. I do like our front 7 to do that.

New Mexico State stinks, as does Liberty.
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Watching Coach presser vs KU before the game. He stated that he have something for them. He have not say anything about Fresno yet but that he have over a week to prepare for them. I think we will be OK.
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How to increase UNLV's digital footprint

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LVRebel2000 said:
What sort of flopping are you referring to?
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I can't remember who it was but we were trying to sub and we weren't going to have enough time so our right DE just fell to the ground. Woodward picked him up and luckily Kansas was slow to get the play in....they false start anyway.

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I watched 3 quarters of the Fresno game. They're good. That will be a tough win for us. A larger crowd would obviously help. The bye is going to help us. Our improved defense is going to help us. If we try to run 75% of the time there will be a lot of 3 and outs. Passing the ball will be a must. I do think Keene is turnover prone. We will need to force him into throws he doesn't want to make. I do like our front 7 to do that.

New Mexico State stinks, as does Liberty.
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How to increase UNLV's digital footprint

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Someone had posted in another thread about recording UNLV's games, even if you're going, since that would technically show up in the media results. I think that's a great idea. Personally, I already have all of the UNLV (basketball and football) games set to record. However, if we could get a bunch of local residents to do the same, that could bump up the media numbers significantly. I mean, ideally, people would tune in and support UNLV, but this would still be helpful to the program.

So I thought I'd start this thread to throw out ideas of how to support UNLV in this digital age.

1. Cable - Set your TV to record all UNLV athletics events
2. Instagram - follow all official UNLV accounts, and interact with them. View the posts, like them, share them, etc.
3. X (Twitter) - same as on instagram

How can we get more 'impressions' and build up a bigger following than UNLV currently has?
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

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lvrebalum2012 said:
Problem is, if market was a big deal, SDSU should have been in the BIG 12 by now.
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The weird thing with the whole "market" size is that a lot of schools with big fan bases aren't in big media markets. It's the fact that they've been around for a long time, and have generational fans that support the team. That, IMO, is the biggest strike against UNLV. We had it for basketball but blew it. Football is in the works.

Texas A&M is basically in a city that only supports the school itself.
Oregon is in Eugene (pop. 178,000)
Notre Dame is in South Bend, IN with a population around 100,000
Oklahoma is in Stillwater, with a population of 50,000

But those schools have been around a long time, and have alumni all over the country that support them. UNLV has a shorter history, so obviously, a smaller alumni base. Plus, the school admin has been horrible over the last 20-30 years.
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IF REMAINING MWC TEAMS WERE SMART

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LVRebel2000 said:
The question would be, do North Texas, Rice, Memphis and Tulane want to spend the $10-18 million to get out of the AAC, where they currently get $7 million / year, to go to a new MWC conference, that as of now doesn't have a media deal after next season? That's a big payment to make to go into a pretty unstable situation.

I haven't seen (or been able to find) what the exit fee is for leaving Conference USA, so it's likely that you could get NMSU, Liberty or Texas State at lower costs, but it's a cost/benefit as to how much they would bring to the new look MWC.

It's going to be very interesting to see how the MWC responds, as well as individual schools.
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I don't think that the MW could entice any legacy AAC school. Not enough money for that.

I can see a potential merger if the AAC gets raided as well.

I don't think the fees for CUSA would be much, since these are based off of contract worth, and they don't get that much currently. it is worth 750k pre school annually and they are in year 3 of a 5 year contract
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LVRebel2000 said:
The question would be, do North Texas, Rice, Memphis and Tulane want to spend the $10-18 million to get out of the AAC, where they currently get $7 million / year, to go to a new MWC conference, that as of now doesn't have a media deal after next season? That's a big payment to make to go into a pretty unstable situation.

I haven't seen (or been able to find) what the exit fee is for leaving Conference USA, so it's likely that you could get NMSU, Liberty or Texas State at lower costs, but it's a cost/benefit as to how much they would bring to the new look MWC.

It's going to be very interesting to see how the MWC responds, as well as individual schools.
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No. Probably not.



I was being a little sarcastic.
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Masked_rebel said:
You would think that's the case unless you were those 2 programs and worried that your conference was one raid away from looking like the MWC is right now... Falling apart without a real outlook for improvement.
I do wonder as the pieces move again, do existing TV contracts get pulled? Like the AAC's contract was written when there was more heavy hitters there, now you pull away their top brands why would the existing contract not be required to be revisited. Is 7 million dollars even a realistic expectation for say UNLV or an AFA to be looking at moving over there if the true brands responsible for that number to begin with are gone?
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That kind of my point about jumping to the AAC right now.

If UNLV and AFA jumped to the AAC tomorrow. I can almost guarantee we would NOT be getting 7 mil. That contract was set up when they still had their 4 best markets. Their most recent additions are not getting 7 mil, though I could not find an actual number. Those best markets that led to the 7 mil payout are gone, and their next 2 best markets may be poached as well. Not just the PAC, I can see the Big 12 interested as well.

If UNLV does not get poached, and really the remaining MW teams, are better suited to stay put, collect a nice chunk of change from the buyouts and fees, then maybe try to rebuild or even better merge with the CUSA or AAC and create a regional cross country conference.
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Bullmastiff 1 said:
Screw it.

MWC go crazy.

AFA likely out regardless.

Go get NMSU, LIBERTY, Texas State, North Texas, Rice, Send overtures to Memphis, Tulane and maybe Tulsa? as well.

Create an East/West thing.

I don't know I can't see a viable path of keeping MWC at its current status.
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The question would be, do North Texas, Rice, Memphis and Tulane want to spend the $10-18 million to get out of the AAC, where they currently get $7 million / year, to go to a new MWC conference, that as of now doesn't have a media deal after next season? That's a big payment to make to go into a pretty unstable situation.

I haven't seen (or been able to find) what the exit fee is for leaving Conference USA, so it's likely that you could get NMSU, Liberty or Texas State at lower costs, but it's a cost/benefit as to how much they would bring to the new look MWC.

It's going to be very interesting to see how the MWC responds, as well as individual schools.
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Unlv & Air Force in contact w/AAC

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j. spilotro said:
I like the way you think.

And I’d call you a genius but it’s obvious. Even stepping back and looking at it with a wide lens …
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Thanks… I just keep having this overarching thought that there’s no way the “market” is going to be completely overlooked. I know that the past isn’t a great prognosticator, but there is absolutely value to be mined.
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Bullmastiff 1 said:
Screw it.

MWC go crazy.

AFA likely out regardless.

Go get NMSU, LIBERTY, Texas State, North Texas, Rice, Send overtures to Memphis, Tulane and maybe Tulsa? as well.

Create an East/West thing.

I don't know I can't see a viable path of keeping MWC at its current status.
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Build a tiered G5 super conference... There are some heavies like UNLV that could get a bigger payout advantage like Boise had over MWC. then maybe a mid-tier of programs that are your typical G5 mid-major schools, and then a lower tier of emerging schools that want a slightly higher cut of the $ but arent ready for the big leagues yet market wise that get more than say the CUSA payout but less than what MWC schools currently make. Then we dominate and level up in a few years when Big 12 finally decides to go to 20 teams...
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