News Thursday is big
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We would start seeing more four star recruits due to having much more access and proximity to an NFL team.
Not to mention how cool it would be to have a LV NFL team (except when the Steelers come to town).
I heard from a friend its pretty close to being a done deal. If they come and the stadium gets built, UNLV football just got put on the map
I will take any and all fans UNLV can get. Based on season ticket sales we have a long way to go.
"I've always been a big fan of UNLV Football... Even before they hired Tony Sandoval."
I just want someone to clearly explain the process to me. So far we have mainly went through the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure committee to hear the merit of this stadium. However, all they can do is recommend action to the Governor. I know there has to be a special session of the legislature called. I know we had heard the preliminary talk on how they will fund it but there has not been any new information. It seems like its a decision up to Nevada state legislators to approve the funding sources and diverting some of the hotel tax revenues.
Yes there are a lot of things that need to happen. but you have to have the backing first. When you have the people that are behind this backing it, it is easier to get it done. If things go as they should it will lower the tax burden and become more feasible. if this step fails its over for now and this is the best shot they have had with realistic money and support. this isn't just a dream like in the past.
It is not, and this is a necessary step in the ladder, but I don't see this as the biggest hurdle of the process. If its gonna fail, its going to fail later on in the process. I do agree. If any project like this is going to succeed, its this one because of the people involved with deep relationships within the city.
You don't think adding an NFL team to the slate would help push it forward? this does have huge local backing but adding an NFL team losens up the tax payers.
Of course it helps, but Mark Davis saying he wants to come here and them actually coming are two different things. I know he has deep connections with Adelson. However, it may not even be his choice. Although I can't summon a reason why the NFL would deny it, I could see it happening. Local support isn't really the problem.
I get the skepticism with the NFL but without the NFL there is a problem with local support. Most voters and tax payers don't care about UNLV. So many elderly that are on fixed incomes and transplants. The NFL brings aboard a lot of supporters and it also brings dollars to help. To think that Thursday isn't big is just silly. You got 15 k fans showing up to support a team and there are 2 million in the valley. Ask a Book maker how many locals place bets each week in this town on football.
Its very significant. Was never saying it wasn't. It would be huge for an NFL owner to publicly support the city. No doubt about that. But they are some hefty obstacles still is all I am saying. Nothing can really get done at this meeting. My understanding of this committee is they have some influence but not any real authority. At this meeting you can mobilize and communicate your vision and try to convince the public. I don't need convincing of the stadiums economic impact on the city with or without an NFL team. I don't even need to hear about how it will impact UNLV athletics. Its a game changer for Las Vegas period. I am hoping this is a step for the stadium, more convention space, and improvements in our transnational infrastructure.
It's funny that you mention convention space and this stadium in the same sentence. From what I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, the hotel tax dollars that Sands is seeking to fund (something like 65% of the total cost?) this stadium with has already been targeted by the LVCVA for their convention center expansion. So Sands and LVCVA are going to be involved in a huge pissing contest to get their hands on that $$$ before it is even appropriated by the state. Sandoval wants a football stadium. Rossi Ralenkotter wants to upgrade the LVCC. That this football stadium would be used for convention space is a direct threat to LVCVA, who already competes with Sands for trade show money.
So, I think that Thursdays meeting is a formality that will not decide anything, but rather a symbolic show of might behind the stadium plan. Do I believe Davis would bring the Raiders here? With that stadium, in a heartbeat.
One side note that should be further highlighted is the revenue that a Superbowl would bring. IMHO, if we hosted it once, it would be such a no-brainer success that Las Vegas would be on the regular rotation for a SB every 7 years like New Orleans and Miami.
So, I think that Thursdays meeting is a formality that will not decide anything, but rather a symbolic show of might behind the stadium plan. Do I believe Davis would bring the Raiders here? With that stadium, in a heartbeat.
One side note that should be further highlighted is the revenue that a Superbowl would bring. IMHO, if we hosted it once, it would be such a no-brainer success that Las Vegas would be on the regular rotation for a SB every 7 years like New Orleans and Miami.
From what i have read you are correct.
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The tax is already in place. It is scheduled to be used for convention space. Adelson wants to take 65% of the incomming funds and do a stadium first. The initial phase of the new convention space would be smaller, and the rest of the new convention space will follow at a later date.
Only thing I wouldn't like is that stadium most likely won't feel like a college stadium, and will feel like a advertisement nfl stadium. There is something about going to a college football game in a college football stadium. It doesn't feel the same when they play the game in a nfl stadium. But regardless I am for this stadium and what it could do for UNLV.
if/when its built I hope they restrict ticket sales to certain areas of the stadium so that the crowd is condensed for UNLV games. As optimistic as I can be for UNLV football I know we are not getting 65K anytime soon so I would rather have everyone in the "lower bowl" to give games a better feel/atmosphere. Hopefully any potential signage would be easily moved/switched for games days so UNLV is prominently displayed throughout for home games.
Being so close to campus will hopefully help with fans parking in and around campus and walking over to the stadium, could be a very cool game day experience if done right and I will say it now as long as myself and my group still have a place to grill and hang out before the game I could care less about parking or long walk.
Being so close to campus will hopefully help with fans parking in and around campus and walking over to the stadium, could be a very cool game day experience if done right and I will say it now as long as myself and my group still have a place to grill and hang out before the game I could care less about parking or long walk.
+1 I have no doubt that crowds would double just by having the stadium on campus. Wish more students lived on campus tho. I would think they would build a parking garage where most of the tailgating will end up taking place. But I could also see them having a large grass field in front of the stadium for tailgating but will only be able to handle to many people
They could allow people to use the grass intramural fields off of Harmon for Tailgating possibly as well as T&M. And maybe utilize the lots next to the practice football fields and Softball fields as well. traffic would be pretty terrible in there for some time but most people who tailgate arrive early enough it shouldn't get too crazy. There are option and with the land purchase hopefully some cool areas outside the stadium would be developed to enhance fan experience.
Traffic sucks for most sporting events. It is the by-product of compressing 20k plus people into a small area.
If the worst thing I have to worry about is an hour wait after a game in traffic in exchange for a state of the art brand new football stadium, where do I sign up.
If the worst thing I have to worry about is an hour wait after a game in traffic in exchange for a state of the art brand new football stadium, where do I sign up.
Exactly. Traffic and "College atmosphere" are small potatoes when considering the big picture. Incidentally, I was just at the Park at T-Mobile last Saturday. Got dropped off, then stayed and played and Uber cost $20 to take us home to Green Valley. $20. So, consider, even if you Uber both ways, at $40, you don't pay $10-20 for parking, or sit in your car for an hour on either side or worry about a DD. I applaud the designers for not considering parking at all.
My dad talked to the person over sam boyd stadium. Mark says the facilities are better then in oakland just needed more seats and update the locker rooms. they also raised the rate from 1 million to 3 million. I am a big raiders fan and would like to see some game. Love the name Las Vegas Raiders
Would be nice if UNLV gets some extra money coming in to put it towards making the marching band larger
I don't think UNLV would be over shadowed by Raider signage. It'll be on UNLVs property and surrounded by academic buildings. Not too worried about size but my biggest concern is poor sight lines and first row seats a mile away from the field. Last thing I'd want is a Qualcomm like experience for football games.
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I agree. Baseball stadium designers have done a great job getting fans closer to the action with the newer stadiums.
For a dome stadium, the model used in Arizona was great. Not a huge fan of domed stadiums but understand the need here. Cardinals stadium has a great atmosphere.
I question who will own the stadium. I assumed it would be UNLV since we own the land but I read in an early RJ article that said the Sands Corp. Would own the stadium. Anyone know more? I assumed a possible long term management contract but not ownership. If it is on our land and the majority paid for by tax money how do they get ownership.
My guess is that Uncle Shelly will kill the deal unless Sands is benefiting the most. He cares about one thing and one thing only- the bottom line. This stadium is simply a way to stick it to the competition (LVCVA).
I would also like to see the monorail tied to the stadium and on to the airport. That would a a convenience for fans flying in to catch a game and also allow for offsite parking, like the Convention Center when it's not hosting an event. Even if they just went a couple of blocks for a first phase, that would at help parking.
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My guess is that Uncle Shelly will kill the deal unless Sands is benefiting the most. He cares about one thing and one thing only- the bottom line. This stadium is simply a way to stick it to the competition (LVCVA).
The Sands is sticking it to the LVCVA?
If you look at it on the other side, LVCVA is looking at the Sands as their competition!
Remember that the Sands is paying millions in taxes for the LVCVA which is suppose to benefit all of the casinos evenly. While I am not a fan of the Sands, I would like to know what have they received in return? The LVCVA has no problem treating the Sands like their enemy, but also has no problem receiving funding from the Sands.
I wouldn't be very happy myself if I was paying taxes to a company (LVCVA) that was my competition.
My guess is that Uncle Shelly will kill the deal unless Sands is benefiting the most. He cares about one thing and one thing only- the bottom line. This stadium is simply a way to stick it to the competition (LVCVA).
The Sands is sticking it to the LVCVA?
If you look at it on the other side, LVCVA is looking at the Sands as their competition!
Remember that the Sands is paying millions in taxes for the LVCVA which is suppose to benefit all of the casinos evenly. While I am not a fan of the Sands, I would like to know what have they received in return? The LVCVA has no problem treating the Sands like their enemy, but also has no problem receiving funding from the Sands.
I wouldn't be very happy myself if I was paying taxes to a company (LVCVA) that was my competition.
That's what baffles me about this as well- The LVCC is an arm of LVCVA that (I assume) operates independently, as R&R does, but it is in direct competition with Sands only for conventions (which they often share). I'm just trying to follow the money here and that's where it's leading me. You are correct in that the heavy advertising LVCVA puts out benefits Sands indirectly, but it's not like the commercials can state "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas, unless you go to the Venetian".
Shifty Shelly was very aware of the funding mechanism used by LVCA before he built his own facility, yet he started his little war and has been fighting it ever since. Funny, he made a ton of money bringing conventions to the same facility he fights tooth and nail. His decision, he has to own it. I have had the displeasure of talking to the man 4 times in my stage and convention career, not a very pleasant man IMO.
I am not saying that he is a nice guy either. My brother is fairly high up the chain working for the LVCVA, and he hates Sheldon along with everyone else where he works, which makes me wonder how neutral they can be regarding funds spent. The two have been at war with each other for year which makes me believe there must be some blame on both sides. I have been told some interesting stories of some of the things Sheldon has done in his war with the LVCVA, as well as some of the battles he has had with contractors that he didn't pay. The fact that a person is not pleasant, or that people don't like him, should have nothing to do with how these funds are spent.
