Please post who sign during this early signing period. We dont expect much. San Jose already have 27 committees.Other MWC top teams are signing huge numbers.....
Unfortunately, they got a very late start, and Arroyo hardly had any HS guys committed. I'm hoping we can pull more from the portal, at least in this 1st year, but we'll see what happens.Interesting start. I’m pro Odom and Petrino, but not sure how I feel about going for so many FCS prospects. Has a very Hauck feel to it.
In upcoming years, I'll definitely have higher expectations for HS players, but this year, I think the portal will be more important. That, and our current players. Most HS players aren't ready to make an impact immediately.Extremely early but let's be honest, this has been putrid so far. This has rebuild written all over it. Which is the exact opposite thing the AD sold us with the hire.
Why do people keep using that word, rebuild? I think we have enough on the current roster to compete in the MWC, I really do. Transfer Portal for 2023 thanks to Arroyo's shortcomings, and then 2024 going forward will be more "normal." How are we crapping on a new coach less than 2 weeks after taking a job for his recruiting of all things? It doesn't make any sense. Recruiting is an art that requires relationships. Odom is not going to get the players he's been recruiting to Arkansas to just flip to UNLV. That's not how it works. He was put in a bad position. He knew that coming in. He's going to have to hit the portal hard. We'll know more about our team leading up to and after spring practice.Extremely early but let's be honest, this has been putrid so far. This has rebuild written all over it. Which is the exact opposite thing the AD sold us with the hire.
100%. Unfortunately, a lot of the portal guys have already committed too, but I'm sure there are still a ton of helpful guys out there. Like you said, it's not like we're starting from scratch. We have some talented guys on the roster still, so just supplement in the spots that need it the most and we should be fine.Why do people keep using that word, rebuild? I think we have enough on the current roster to compete in the MWC, I really do. Transfer Portal for 2023 thanks to Arroyo's shortcomings, and then 2024 going forward will be more "normal." How are we crapping on a new coach less than 2 weeks after taking a job for his recruiting of all things? It doesn't make any sense. Recruiting is an art that requires relationships. Odom is not going to get the players he's been recruiting to Arkansas to just flip to UNLV. That's not how it works. He was put in a bad position. He knew that coming in. He's going to have to hit the portal hard. We'll know more about our team leading up to and after spring practice.
I'm confused. That's not really unusual. But, I thought that Arroyo was let go because he didn't win six games and go to a bowl game. Winning now was the important thing. In my opinion, Arroyo used the portal effectively and got some good results going 5 - 7. Now there are posts are blaming Arroyo for using the portal instead of building from high school athletes. Arroyo is gone, now Odom is "building" the program again. Wait until a couple of years and we'll be in good shape. Like I said in a previous post, one step forward and two steps back.Why do people keep using that word, rebuild? I think we have enough on the current roster to compete in the MWC, I really do. Transfer Portal for 2023 thanks to Arroyo's shortcomings, and then 2024 going forward will be more "normal." How are we crapping on a new coach less than 2 weeks after taking a job for his recruiting of all things? It doesn't make any sense. Recruiting is an art that requires relationships. Odom is not going to get the players he's been recruiting to Arkansas to just flip to UNLV. That's not how it works. He was put in a bad position. He knew that coming in. He's going to have to hit the portal hard. We'll know more about our team leading up to and after spring practice.
Terms like "rebuild" and "Odom is building the program AGAIN" implies that we have things built. We are a graded piece of dirt at this point. There's no "re" anything.I'm confused. That's not really unusual. But, I thought that Arroyo was let go because he didn't win six games and go to a bowl game. Winning now was the important thing. In my opinion, Arroyo used the portal effectively and got some good results going 5 - 7. Now there are posts are blaming Arroyo for using the portal instead of building from high school athletes. Arroyo is gone, now Odom is "building" the program again. Wait until a couple of years and we'll be in good shape. Like I said in a previous post, one step forward and two steps back.
Arroyo's record is a bit deceiving.Terms like "rebuild" and "Odom is building the program AGAIN" implies that we have things built. We are a graded piece of dirt at this point. There's no "re" anything.
Arroyo was fired for not winning. He also happened to leave the 2023 barren.
I don't care how Odom builds the roster, be it by portal or HS. Just get players that can help us win. When I say recruiting will be back to "normal" I mean recruiting will be based on Odom and his staff having more than 2 weeks to throw a class together. Not making excuses for year one. Odom and staff should show an improvement in their year one. We have a lot of capable players to help us win and be competitive. Anything short of that will be a disappointing season.
Lastly, Arroyo didn't take us 1 step forward. From the time he took the job until the end of year 3 he was a lateral step at best. He showed some progression but he also won 2 combined games in his first 2 seasons.
According to Joe Arrigo, this is a flip from U. of Arizona to UNLV
Why do people keep using that word, rebuild? I think we have enough on the current roster to compete in the MWC, I really do. Transfer Portal for 2023 thanks to Arroyo's shortcomings, and then 2024 going forward will be more "normal." How are we crapping on a new coach less than 2 weeks after taking a job for his recruiting of all things? It doesn't make any sense. Recruiting is an art that requires relationships. Odom is not going to get the players he's been recruiting to Arkansas to just flip to UNLV. That's not how it works. He was put in a bad position. He knew that coming in. He's going to have to hit the portal hard. We'll know more about our team leading up to and after spring practice.
I know nothing about his reason but I wonder if his offer was pulled? UofA got an OL that decomitted from Alabama (Alabama got a 5 star OL that decomitted Fri Iowa)a couple of days ago. So maybe became the odd OL out?According to Joe Arrigo, this is a flip from U. of Arizona to UNLV
According to Joe Arrigo, this is a flip from U. of Arizona to UNLV
I wonder if he’s related to Bill Conti. Singer of Karate Kid’s “You’re the best Around”
I wonder if he’s related to Bill Conti. Singer of Karate Kid’s “You’re the best Around”
Agree with most of what you said except that he left it in better shape than he left it. Almost all of the difference makers for Arroyo were left by Sanchez and almost all of the decent players he recruited have already jumped ship. He left it in exactly the same shape as he inherited it even down to the record last season. I don’t think it’s a bad thing because we need some new players to hopefully change the losing culture. Also glad he got let go because he seemed like Sanchez in that every time a game was very important for the season the team would completely shit the bed and get destroyed or lose to a terrible team (see SJSU and Hawaii). Not too concerned about the recruiting because just like in basketball the last ten years, we seemed to get highly rated guys who would just melt under pressure and lose to lower rated classes in conference consistently.Arroyo's record is a bit deceiving.
Whether it was a smart by move by him or not, in retrospect it was NOT. Arroyo wasn't really trying to win that first year. He treated it like a free pass, and maybe that was stated to him by DRF.
He tried to build culture by playing the best guys in practice instead of building for the future. Playing Max at QB was an example of that.
He was fired becuase he didn't win enough games in year 3 against a weak schedule .
He also underperformed with enough talent to get the job done.
He still brought in some really good recruiting classes, some of the best ever at UNLV. were the over rated? Maybe, but I doubt they were worthy of bottom of the league.
I don't think this is a rebuild because I do feel Arroyo built a pretty good foundation, and the program is in a better position now than what he inherited. He deserves credit for that.
Don't get it twisted, I'm happy after the coaching change was made. This is the best I have felt about the program since J Rob when I went to school there.
Odom still needs to fill some holes. That is for sure. But transfers often trickle in well after signing day. Some players decide to leave if they feel they have been over recruited. It may be be summer before we really know next year's roster.
I feel good about next year because both Odom and Petrino build their gameplans based off personel, and are successful doing so. Especially Petrino who has created really good offense nearly everywhere he has been including Western Kentucky and Missouri State with talent likely much worse than we have now.
Whoops Bill Conti was a music soundtrack composer for many movies including Rocky and all the karate kid movies.Put him in a body bag!
Arroyo inherited a terrible defense with no depth that lost the majority of its starters. True many of his best offensive guys were Sanchez recruits. But there were still many starters were Arroyo's guysAgree with most of what you said except that he left it in better shape than he left it. Almost all of the difference makers for Arroyo were left by Sanchez and almost all of the decent players he recruited have already jumped ship. He left it in exactly the same shape as he inherited it even down to the record last season. I don’t think it’s a bad thing because we need some new players to hopefully change the losing culture. Also glad he got let go because he seemed like Sanchez in that every time a game was very important for the season the team would completely shit the bed and get destroyed or lose to a terrible team (see SJSU and Hawaii). Not too concerned about the recruiting because just like in basketball the last ten years, we seemed to get highly rated guys who would just melt under pressure and lose to lower rated classes in conference consistently.
Whoops Bill Conti was a music soundtrack composer for many movies including Rocky and all the karate kid movies.