OT: Hypocrisy in politics
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Trip let's not pretend Trump and his cronies are the only election deniers. Prominent Democrats have done the same thing. Hillary called Trump an illegitimate president. And said Russia interference stole the election. Stacy Abrams refused to concede she lost in Georgia saying election was stolen. We heard the same stuff following Bush v Gore as well..
Not defending Trump but let's not act like he's the only one that's taken part in this nonsense.
They’re all doing the same exact things, both sides are using the same weapons. How are people not recognizing this? It’s in plain sight.
The way I see it, democrats are much better at it, they stick together while republicans splinter from within.
I’d rather have plumbers, construction workers and cashiers in congress (I’ll skip bartenders).
I hate 'whataboutism' arguments. But you're damn near forced to use them these days.
Sure but to what extent? Our country was on a brink of a civil war. And 2024 is coming up, things are going to change? Now we have Mike Johnson as Speaker, an ultra MAGA. 3rd in line to be the president. There is not a damn thing I trust about this landscape.
Our country is not on the brink of Civil War. Stop it, that's hyperbolic nonsense.
Think about what you are saying.
It's like MSNBC or CNN saying-
Oh no MAGA is a threat to our democracy! And yet Trump endorsed candidates got clobbered in last elections.
So you mean democracy actually overcame this scary MAGA threat to it?
Do you see how silly saying that they are a threat to democracy is, when they cant even win seats and congress? They lost seats in the senate? Squeaky wheels like MTG and Matt Gaetz are the equivalent to people like AOC for democrats. That spout shout and utter pure nonsense but typically get drowned out by the adults in the room.
Ignore hyperbole man. Seriously.
Also 'erase them' what do you mean erase them?
Imagine how some would interpret 'we need to 'erase progessives!'
The majority of the country is centrist with degrees to the right or left. Every Republican isn't 'right wing MAGA' every Democrat isn't a left wing commie.
That’s the way I see it. Most people are “normal” and stay within the neighborhood of center.
I don’t like pigeonholing either. I have some views that lie conservative, some that lie liberal. If people are at the extremes, they’re idiots, imo. It means they have zero flexibility; their way is the only way.
But I think the politicians absolutely love the people going after each other.
I think when I first really started paying attention to the vitriol was Romney v Obama. The sheer hyperbole was insane. Biden (as Obama's VP) saying Romney would put black eople back in Chains. What utter nonsense. Whatever you think of Mitt Romney's politics he's a decent human being and has done nothing to ever warrant that type of attack. Same with stupid stuff from the right and all the Obama birtherism crap.
I'm sure there were instances before then of hyperbolic nonsense being thrown around but that to me is when it really started to become nasty.
Romney was and is Dead to me. He's a total POS. Anyone who would put their dog on the roof of their car for 12 HOURS is garbage.
Mitt Romney dog incident - Wikipedia
Romney was and is Dead to me. He's a total POS. Anyone who would put their dog on the roof of their car for 12 HOURS is garbage.
Mitt Romney dog incident - Wikipedia
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Fair enough...
I want anybody on here tell me what issues they have Trump other than he is a A-Hole and a narcissist. I want critique of policies and actions. The concept of MAGA is just a slogan its about putting America first. Then i want the same ones to critique Biden OR I WILL and lets compare notes. The only reason Republicans got "clobbered" at the polls or did not win as much as they should had is the the left ballot harvested. The left has way more idiots than the right. WAY MORE!.
That is weak sauce. Paid back all his loans and the prosecution or judge devaluing his Margo Largo saying it's only worth 15-20 million? I believe. It's worth At least six hundred million.Every American should be mad and afraid. Using the Goverment to go after your political rivals should never happen it happens in true dictatorships.
Presidential debate: it’s the same talking points on the news..
This country is f’d no matter who the president is..
This country is f’d no matter who the president is..
I didn't watch, since politics isn't my cup of tea, but I did see some clips on Twitter.
I know that both sides will claim victory but holy hell the clips I saw of Biden made him look really bad. Trump saying - I'm not sure what he said, he's not sure, either - or something to that effect, was the one that I kept seeing on Twitter. Maybe Biden did well otherwise, and maybe Trump insulted the masses in only the way Trump can, but I don't know how we move forward with Biden. But the same with Trump since he can piss people off (although I'm much happier with $2/gallon gas).
Who else can we have moving forward? This is like watching the first game of the Menzies era seeing the DRASTIC drop in talent and having no optimism for leadership for the upcoming season (4 years in politics).
I know that both sides will claim victory but holy hell the clips I saw of Biden made him look really bad. Trump saying - I'm not sure what he said, he's not sure, either - or something to that effect, was the one that I kept seeing on Twitter. Maybe Biden did well otherwise, and maybe Trump insulted the masses in only the way Trump can, but I don't know how we move forward with Biden. But the same with Trump since he can piss people off (although I'm much happier with $2/gallon gas).
Who else can we have moving forward? This is like watching the first game of the Menzies era seeing the DRASTIC drop in talent and having no optimism for leadership for the upcoming season (4 years in politics).
The job done not personalities is what is important. Easy choice in regards to who the economy worked better under.
A philodendron would have won that debate because it doesn’t have a mouth to speak.
It was bad
The whole thing was ugly. I finally watched some more of it.
My grandmother had dementia/alzheimers in the 80’s and we had to care for her. Her mental faculties were stronger than our current president and that’s without the best doctors in the nation checking her daily. I remember the concerns about Reagan’s age and his mental acuity … Reagan was nowhere near Biden’s low level.
It seriously blows my mind that these two are the best the USA has to offer. What a freaking disaster.
I have no idea what the Democrats are going to do, but they can’t roll like this and expect to win.
My grandmother had dementia/alzheimers in the 80’s and we had to care for her. Her mental faculties were stronger than our current president and that’s without the best doctors in the nation checking her daily. I remember the concerns about Reagan’s age and his mental acuity … Reagan was nowhere near Biden’s low level.
It seriously blows my mind that these two are the best the USA has to offer. What a freaking disaster.
I have no idea what the Democrats are going to do, but they can’t roll like this and expect to win.
I've been reading online that the 'Plan' is to change him out with another candidate since you can't easily transition him out when he's running for another term.
My thought has always been that Michelle Obama was going to run one day. Maybe this is the year it happens?
I've seen some of that discussion too, but it may be too late. Some states, including NV, have timeframes that candidates need to be in by. They can't be replaced except when there is a death, or in some states, a couple other exceptions apply.
The biggest loser in that debate was America. What an absolute shit show. I can’t believe these two are the best options we could come up with. We need to have a maximum age limit for President.
I don’t think Trump has a plan to get us out of this mess..
We are all f*cked.
The third choice just comes from a family of politicians..yuck.
Its hard to be a career politician without some corruption. I’ve worked for three of them (in official office capacities, not campaigns). All of them had some wrinkle that would make me not vote for them.
I can’t imagine how bad it would be working on either staff.
I listen political podcasts/radio from both sides of the aisle.. I agree with something Jesse Kelley says... Vote local, control locally what you can... No single person is going to instantly fix DC by being elected.
Too many lifers in DC that are more concerned with their own little power than the good of American families. That's a true statement for both parties, with a small minority who actually do care or try to care about their neighbors.
Too many lifers in DC that are more concerned with their own little power than the good of American families. That's a true statement for both parties, with a small minority who actually do care or try to care about their neighbors.
The way I explain it, and the reason why I left politics is that it is all a game. Career politicians have become proficient at creating controversy to distract Americans from the real issues that are impacting citizens.
Its a dog and pony show of being able to blame each other for why very little is getting done. The longer they take, the more money the collect from doing pretty much nothing.
A lot (not all) of these politicians are friends. They’ll hate each other in public, but go golfing together on weekends.
Its a dog and pony show of being able to blame each other for why very little is getting done. The longer they take, the more money the collect from doing pretty much nothing.
A lot (not all) of these politicians are friends. They’ll hate each other in public, but go golfing together on weekends.
I actually think I’ve seen you around the tailgates. I haven’t lived in Wa in 12 years.
They missed. And they better get him before the election otherwise this will be a landslide …
