I think he'd be more likely to take the FSU job.
Odom leaving for WVU?
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I think he'd be more likely to take the FSU job.
Take a look at it this way... If youre trying to talk silly money only offer... Does Odom take the job for a 2x pay bump- so roughly 4 million? IDK considering if we are being serious about extensions with our new cash flow were probably looking at a 3-3.5 range...
WVU is currently paying their coach 4 million, if you talk silly money then they offer 3x Odom's current salary- so 5.5-6 million, that'd put him pay wise on par with the top 4 paid coaches in the Big 12, and Im not saying a Big 12 school cant afford it, but thats a steep price to pay along with any buyouts on both sides. For record- last years top G5 coaches (Cignetti and Fritz) are currently making around the 4.5 million dollar mark...
WVU is currently paying their coach 4 million, if you talk silly money then they offer 3x Odom's current salary- so 5.5-6 million, that'd put him pay wise on par with the top 4 paid coaches in the Big 12, and Im not saying a Big 12 school cant afford it, but thats a steep price to pay along with any buyouts on both sides. For record- last years top G5 coaches (Cignetti and Fritz) are currently making around the 4.5 million dollar mark...
Maybe, and he may prefer being a college coach. Would make a pretty penny there as well.
But there is no franchise in sports that is talked about more than the Dallas Cowboys. Deion likes to be talked about.
The only drawback is Jerry Jones and the amount of control he seems to require.
I don’t know if Deon’s antics would work in the NFL.
Glad you brought up Cignetti.
The Indiana job is a tough one and look what he's done there.
There's no reason Odom couldn't flip a WVU around.
That's been my point all along.
Coaches are going to take jobs that are a good fit for them. But they all believe their 'system' will work.
Again I don't think this rumor has any legs at all. Oddly the WVU fan base appears to absolutely hate the idea of it. Some even would rather have Rich Rod back..
Get on the phone with Rich Rod's agent...
He would likely be the first NFL coach to get curbstomped in the locker room after a loss.
I don't think he goes to the NFL after this season I think he stays a few years.
I keep telling my family about Odom's .500 record at Missouri.
"You guys can do much better."
"We play a weak schedule."
"He's not a local like Huggy."
"You guys can do much better."
"We play a weak schedule."
"He's not a local like Huggy."
Big 12 is average football conference, great hoops conference. Colorado good as long prime is there, I have feeling FSU will open up soon. Without TX/OK football is not good, UNLV would be top 5 this yr in Big 12, and Odom hasn't had chance to get depth to compete in P4.
You look football is big 2, big ten/SEC.
ACC who knows what happens in next 5 years.
Big 12 could become 3rd best conference in football, this is where UNLV to land, it's perfect fit for them, they have fans that will travel at least 15k each game in vegas is 💰, great baseball/softball teams and best hoops league. KK not going be here much longer, find assistant from gonzaga etc type who can recruit, no reason 15k a night in big 12, that's my dreams, with athletic department realize the potential in vegas? If everything equal NIL etc, you want Ames, Iowa or vegas? 30 yrs of neglect, but Odom hire has shown what UNLV can be! F RENO to boot
You look football is big 2, big ten/SEC.
ACC who knows what happens in next 5 years.
Big 12 could become 3rd best conference in football, this is where UNLV to land, it's perfect fit for them, they have fans that will travel at least 15k each game in vegas is 💰, great baseball/softball teams and best hoops league. KK not going be here much longer, find assistant from gonzaga etc type who can recruit, no reason 15k a night in big 12, that's my dreams, with athletic department realize the potential in vegas? If everything equal NIL etc, you want Ames, Iowa or vegas? 30 yrs of neglect, but Odom hire has shown what UNLV can be! F RENO to boot
See, now that where my (admittedly biased) mind went.
Especially with the conference falling apart and becoming easier with football …. UNLV, with Odom, can “Gonzaga” the league to an extent. And with that comes a legitimate path year in and year out. You could have a subpar (by your new standards) and still have a shot for some really good things.
That’s always been a possibility, but a pipe dream possibility…. UNLV broke the ceiling of what was possible at UNLV and created a new ceiling. That’s building a program, that’s a college COACH.
It might sound foolish, but like you said, given the company you keep, he could have a better shot at national success here than WVU. Big fish, small pond vs small fish, big pond situation.
The UNLV fan in me says he’s gone. Not to WVU necessarily, but sometime soon. That’s just being jaded and used to crappy things happening at UNLV.
But, he’s been small fish in a bigger pond before and had only moderate success. Maybe he realizes he can have his own empire in Las Vegas.
I can see both angles but I don’t know the man’s personality well enough or his MO. Everyone is different. If money is his primary driver in life, no way we keep him.
If a power school wants him, REALLY wants him and money is his primary motivation, it’s not worth the bidding war, imo. We can’t match the big boys with dollars. They can double up our top end offer without batting an eye. It’s like Lon to OU. You aren’t going to win if they really want you, which OU did.
If I’m Odom, it depends on the reason behind UNLV not jumping to the PAC. If it’s because we didn’t want to invest (spend the money) to join the conference, then that would be a big negative. If it’s because they are serious about the program and are pushing for a P4 invite, then that’s a positive.
I’m sure Odom is in the loop on what was behind the decision to stay in the MW.
This right here. 👆
What's the point in investing in a conference that's the exact same as the one you're currently in with minimal benefit...
The investment is better suited in aiming for a Big 12 invite..
The Pac 12 isn't even a conference yet
I think he's saying if UNLV is buried in this new MWC, he may be more likely to entertain leaving.
If the Big12 is a real possibility then he may be more likely to stick it out.
How many coaches at G5 programs regardless of how successful they've been stay vs leave for bigger (P4) jobs?
I know of 3...
Peterson till he basically maxed Boise ceiling
Patterson till TCU went Big 12
Mark Few- Gonzaga
But times are different... you get the right coach, NIL investment, and boom, the opportunity to make playoff at G5 and even host... that was unheard of in their times
'maxed Boise's ceiling' Which acknowledges there are ceilings for G5 programs.
How many jobs was Patterson offered?
Basketball a different animal. But maybe Odom loves Vegas like Few loves Gonzaga.
Back then there most certainly was a ceiling... G5 schools had to be perfect to get to a BCS bowl and had 0 shot at the BCS championship.
That's no longer the case.. look at Tulane with 2 losses best win was over a bad FSU team and they could still possibly be playing in the CFP... that's a shot. The opening of the G5 invite to the playoff has absolutely changed the possibility of creating a dominate G5 program
I don't disagree but UNLV has to find ways to ratchet up NIL to sustain this momentum.
This is the direct responsibility of Whitfield, Harper, Odom and some wealthy boosters. There are 8 families worth over $ 1 billion and another 12 worth over $ 500 million who reside in Las Vegas. The best way to get $$ is to go to people with $$. Our top execs and boosters need to get the job done.
This is being worked on as we speak. Long-time Vegas folks with $$ and relationships are trying to put this together.
Well if Odom were to leave this would be the year to do it given the number of key players graduating. Next years team will look different in terms of first string players and while not a rebuild there will require a lot more “coaching up” the team than this year’s group required. If we can keep him beyond this season he may well be here for several more years.
The QB that is already at UNLV will most likely be an upgrade by next season!
My question is on Odoms contract?? IF he plans on staying/leaving do we have a nice buyout?? Most teams do that when the rumors start flying about P4 teams come a calling. The P4 has the $ and the team losing the HC has a nice buyout to sign their next HC. If not BIG buyout i will get worried.
If Odom leaves for a college Power Four or NFL head coaching job before Dec. 1, 2024, UNLV is owed $4 million. That number reduces by $1 million each year before reaching $500,000 if he leaves before Dec. 1, 2028.
Is the buyout different if he took a g5 HC position? That would say a lot about his ambitions. Just as much as it does with our current contract with the MWC. I really hope Vegas has treated him well. I know it definitely helped his recruiting.
We love our coach. And for good reason. He's brought unheard of success.
But there are usually between 20 to 30 coaching turnovers at the end of a year. These go the same way almost every year. 1. Current P4 assistants. 2. Current P4 coaches. 3. Interim P4 coaches 4. Coaches moving up within an organization. 5. Successful G5 coaches. 6. Failed P4 coaches who have had huge success. There are usually no more than three G5 coaches who move up and they are usually young without any previous taint. Coach Odom has already failed at a P4. If he goes to a P4 he'll never get another chance unless he has huge success and moves up to a Michigan or Ohio State ( or has adequate success and stays for years ) . He must be very careful what he wants.
But there are usually between 20 to 30 coaching turnovers at the end of a year. These go the same way almost every year. 1. Current P4 assistants. 2. Current P4 coaches. 3. Interim P4 coaches 4. Coaches moving up within an organization. 5. Successful G5 coaches. 6. Failed P4 coaches who have had huge success. There are usually no more than three G5 coaches who move up and they are usually young without any previous taint. Coach Odom has already failed at a P4. If he goes to a P4 he'll never get another chance unless he has huge success and moves up to a Michigan or Ohio State ( or has adequate success and stays for years ) . He must be very careful what he wants.
Here's my thinking on the subject. Odom stays if Marion stays. If Marion is entertaining offers and UNLV can't match them, they're both gone. At UNLV, they're a combo. If they're divided, they're taking the p4 money and running to their own separate P4 schools. One as a HC and the other as an OC.
Odom may be able to land a P4 job that can also afford Marion. If that's the case, they remain a combo with much bigger paychecks.
Do not let UNLV separate them. If Odom has to hire another OC, he's taking that gamble elsewhere and for more money.
Odom may be able to land a P4 job that can also afford Marion. If that's the case, they remain a combo with much bigger paychecks.
Do not let UNLV separate them. If Odom has to hire another OC, he's taking that gamble elsewhere and for more money.
IMO i think Odom is pushing for Mike Scherer for the HC. Brings him up all the time on how great he is. I think Odom is gone. Keep Mike Scherer and we probably keep most of our recruits. I HOPE!!
Hopefully he gets a big raise end of this season and along with that a buyout that is significantly higher.
Tulane didn't play FSU. Maybe you're thinking of South Florida? I think Temple's best win was probably Navy 35-0. Navy was 6-0and ranked in the top 25 prior to losing 3 out of their last 4, including Notre Dame, Tulane, and Rice.
No, youre right, that was Memphis. Tulane being ranked is kind of a bit of a stretch to me... They lost to KSU and to Oklahoma, with their best win probably being that Navy team that was without their starting QB. Im actually surprised at how elevated the AAC teams are considering alot of the AAC is also in the same category as the Mountain West's middle and low tier.
Some rando on Twatter posts something and all of a sudden, it's a fact that must be taken seriously. JFC guys.
We all know he's gonna be sought after In the off season especially if he wins the last two games. Imagine If Colorado state loses And we beat boise state in the championship game. A big if , but If that happens they better have contingency plan. Like a real good one
Yes! Do there best to leverage that into a Big12 invite, and get a lot more casinos involved!
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