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Rebel1986

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I have seen a fair number of people bitching about UNLV not signing locals, but most of the higher level locals committed out of state, and the locals that had interest in UNLV tended to be lower level fringe recruits with very few if any upper division offers. Arroyo and staff were forced to mostly go after players they had recruited in the past, and I am sure next year will make a major effort to go after the higher level local kids. Win and they will come!
 
Honestly it wasn't a huge year for Nevada recruits:

https://n.rivals.com/state_rankings/2020/nevada

I know Darnell Washington at least visited the new facilities, but we never legitimately had a shot. All the other local guys were offered, but who knows how much they were pursued by CTS or CMA. Who knows, maybe one or two will get homesick and transfer back.
 
I would disagree, I expect this class of Las Vegans to be very productive at their landing sports.

I realize its going be tough for Las Vegas football & UNLV football to ever be on the same path. This staff went after the prospects they targeted and landed a very strong class. Hoping they get the ship sailing in the right direction.

Honestly it wasn't a huge year for Nevada recruits:

https://n.rivals.com/state_rankings/2020/nevada

I know Darnell Washington at least visited the new facilities, but we never legitimately had a shot. All the other local guys were offered, but who knows how much they were pursued by CTS or CMA. Who knows, maybe one or two will get homesick and transfer back.
 
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The ones that were committed and were no longer a part of the class were because of grades. That has been a major issue for UNLV and local kids who did not attend Bishop Gorman.
I don't know if it was grades but, I checked up on Ronald Gilliam and Justin Pinkney both school mates of Brumfield and neither has signed with anyone. Both are well rated as 3* athletes.
 
I don't know if it was grades but, I checked up on Ronald Gilliam and Justin Pinkney both school mates of Brumfield and neither has signed with anyone. Both are well rated as 3* athletes.

The whole "star" system is flawed, and I assume that's why Arroyo's staff re-evaluated the commits. Several of them had zero other offers.

Gilliam was "well rated" because he got three impressive P5 offers before his junior year. But after the start of his junior year after he was playing varsity he only had two more offers, UNLV and Kansas in the winter after his junior year. But despite the "stars" his junior season wasn't that impressive, and it didn't get any better his senior year - he wasn't even the top WR on the team.
 
The whole "star" system is flawed, and I assume that's why Arroyo's staff re-evaluated the commits. Several of them had zero other offers.

Gilliam was "well rated" because he got three impressive P5 offers before his junior year. But after the start of his junior year after he was playing varsity he only had two more offers, UNLV and Kansas in the winter after his junior year. But despite the "stars" his junior season wasn't that impressive, and it didn't get any better his senior year - he wasn't even the top WR on the team.
The team had most of their TD's rushing the ball this past season. No receivers on their team really stood out. He was tied for first in receiving TD's with 3. If you measure the best receiver as the one with the most receiving yards then yes he wasn't the best as he was short by 78 yards.

Lavon Bunkley the other receiver who also had 3 TD's and 78 more receiving yards was rated by 247Sports at .9309 and signed with ASU.

It must be something they see in the video to rate each so high. By stats alone I don't see either as that impressive.
 
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A lot of stars are based on production at "camps" where the "evaluators" give them stars. The dirty secret is that coaches (like the D.P. coach who is about to be suspended again for recruiting kids) can get offers from schools that don't allow a kid to commit but instead it boosts up his perception. Or parents can make side deals (pay) to have their kid rated higher.

Gilliam had outstanding camps but many coaches feel, including the former staff, that he was better suited to play safety. They were going to let him play WR first but make the switch as they did with Djechman.
 
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Rating players and how these rating services do it might be worthy of its own thread.

Interesting thought on what mr.chibbs brings up about parents making side deals to boost rankings. Unlike the "admissions scandel" I would think that this process would be more transparent. Fortunately most coaches don't care so much about ratings. They visit high scools, talk to coaches, evaluate film and make decisions from observations. I'm sure there is more to it.
 
There are always those players that are underrated and those players that are overrated, but the simple fact is that 98% of the time those schools that have highly rated recruiting classes are near the top of the hill and those that have lowly rated recruiting classes are at the bottom of the hill. The last 30 years of UNLV having recruiting classes that have been rated near the bottom of the MWC is a perfect case in point.
 
Rating players and how these rating services do it might be worthy of its own thread.

Interesting thought on what mr.chibbs brings up about parents making side deals to boost rankings. Unlike the "admissions scandel" I would think that this process would be more transparent. Fortunately most coaches don't care so much about ratings. They visit high scools, talk to coaches, evaluate film and make decisions from observations. I'm sure there is more to it.

Actually, coaches do care. They receive bonuses based off of recruiting classes and who is the highest-rated recruiter. Stars matter to them as well, they just won't admit it publicly.

But I agree, there needs to be a system that independently reviews players, a body that doesn't get swayed by parents.
 
Actually, coaches do care. They receive bonuses based off of recruiting classes and who is the highest-rated recruiter. Stars matter to them as well, they just won't admit it publicly.

But I agree, there needs to be a system that independently reviews players, a body that doesn't get swayed by parents.
I've read that Rivals uses professional (NFL) experienced personnel to evaluate video. 247Sports also rely heavily if not exclusively video but their main guy in charge has no college or NFL experience. However, he has been doing this for a long time and is said to be pretty accurate in his assessments.

CTS had a top 3 recruiting class in the MWC 3 or 4 years ago and that didn't work out very well for him. Big problem was the staff imo. You can have high ratings but if you can't develop and coach you're pretty much a boat anchor.
 
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