Hey Reb mascot
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IMO, with the Mascot gone the name can't be far behind. Once you start rolling over it's hard to stop.
Big time rebellious. One person whimpers, they change things.
The school is the most compliant, careful, non-risky sack of nothing I’ve ever seen.
It's not just us. The entire society is losing it's collective mind. I used to think I was a dinosaur, but I'm beyond that. I'm a fossil and the world has passed by me at light speed.
Here are a few Colleges that changed their Name / Mascot. Just a short list, there are many more.
- Stanford University – Indians to Cardinal (1972)
- Dartmouth – Indians to Big Green (1974)
- Siena – Indians to Saints (1988)
- Eastern Michigan – Hurons to Eagles (1991)
- St. John's (N.Y.) – Redman to Red Storm (1994)
- Marquette – Warriors to Golden Eagles (1994)
- Miami (Ohio) – Redskins to RedHawks (1997)
- Seattle University – Chieftains to Redhawks (2000)
- Louisiana-Monroe – Indiana to Warhakws (2006)
- Arkansas State – Indians to Red Wolves (2008)
- North Dakota – Formerly dropped Fighting Sioux in 2012. No nickname currently.
Considering I know at least a dozen people with family members who died of things not related to chinese virus, but still were listed as chinese virus deaths, that says everything!
Explained it to you, but you are set in your ways because you bow to an ideology/circumstance rather than real science and common sense - which, since your discipline is science, would be surprising if so many other scientists hadn’t sold out for the same thing as you.
You’re not a free thinker. You’re not a critical thinker. 30 years of athletic ineptness shows that you were on the wrong side of UNLV athletic history. And you are now, as well. You got what you wanted and boy was it the worst thing ever for UNLV Athletics - it was easy to foresee what could/would happen, but you were sure things would be ok. They’re not. You were incredibly wrong. Tark was, indeed, irreplaceable and UNLV Athletics was dealt a death blow by your side. Tark was (and in my estimation, always will be) the most significant person in UNLV history, athletic or otherwise. He made you and other faculty like your buddy James (“ooooooh, look at the pupfish!”) Deacon insignificant.
You were wrong then and you are wrong again.
I can name 100’s by simple chart review. End stage renal failure, terminal pancreatic cancer ... sorry, irreversible mortal conditions ... those aren’t covid deaths. But they count as covid deaths.
How about that 2009 pandemic with 550000 H1N1 deaths?
See how easy it is?
same, a few years ago I upped my donation to the University of Oregon by what I was giving UNLV. I’ve since increased that amount and UNLV still gets $0.in addition in the last 5 or so years I’ve been to maybe 1 UNLV BB game and I think no FB games, but many Oregon games both home and away, as well as all of their post season games are in both sports. I’m not going to deprive myself because UNLV is a dumpster fire, just jumped on the Oregon bandwagon although I have had FB season tickets since I lived there for one season in 2002., so coming up on my 20th season.
I’ll come back to UNLV, I’m not gone forever, but they need to give me a reason to come back and unfortunately just when I think the athletic department has hit rock bottom the FB team loses all of its games and although I haven’t watched any UNLV BB this year it appears I’m not missing anything.
as for the mascot and name, I couldn’t care less one way or the other.
If you honestly think 400,000 people have died from covid, then there's a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to talk to you about......real cheap.
Like I said, in reviewing patient charts ... it’s laughable. Particularly with many end stage renal failures and incurable cancers, people that checked into the hospital for end of life care, certainly not covid.
Each one of those deaths make people like Hiker smile because they falsely add to the “total”.
Sick, sick people. They can’t think. They can’t analyze. Worse, they actually can, but they opt not to do it, because they do not like the answers. They subscribe to the Times and take what they say as truth. Instead of actually thinking.
Truth is, like all things, is somewhere in the middle.
Saying it is no worse than the flu, or even H1N1 is also false.
Those diseases did not ransack New York and most of western Europe. Those diseases do not overload hospitals whenever there is a holiday where everyone comes together. You cannot deny the impact this thing has had.
You said yourself that most of tests are crap. A lot of false positives. Those false positives also skew the death rate lower.
Conversely the death rate is padded by co-morbidities that are likely the true cause of death. Even with unconfirmed positives. Also it is worth mentioning that the majority of people that legitimately seemed to have contracted the disease get out with mild symptoms.
the numbers are heavily flawed from all kinds of angles.
You also cannot compare COVID to some of these other diseases since everything is different. We didn't lock down for the others. The majority of us were not wearing masks, trying to socially distance, etc.
If you are a scientist you have to look at all of the variables, and there is too much difference to look at raw data and make meaning comparisons.
Personally I do not know what we should be able to do. In many ways I do think we have shut down a little too much, but on the other side this thing keeps having these blow ups and should not be unopposed. There is no right answer. But it is difficult to find the best answer.
Not saying it’s not real. I’m saying the reaction was incredibly poor, nowhere near as bad as the disease itself. Kids are killing themselves.
The tests are crap in the way their utilized, not by way of methodology. PCR is fine. A hammer is fine too, but you don’t use a hammer crack an egg.
I’ve looked at as much data as humanely possible. It’s non stop. Tons of variables, no doubt, but through the dust there are trends and likelihoods and it’s very easy to see the massive misinformation being pumped out to keep people afraid. It’s really easy.
I also read about the LV valley overload and ICU overload. Complete and utter bullshit. I only need to walk 10 feet to see it with my own two eyes.
when so much bullshit is pumped, you tend to look funny at everything they put out and it’s easy to spot the bullshit. There’s a definite agenda.
science should never be about agendas. This thing is. Completely.
Not saying this virus isn’t real, and I’ve stated before, this is much much closer to 58 and 69 than 1919. Not even close. Yet in 58 and 69, we didn’t shut down shit and got through it just fine. We artificially and intentionally induced panic (got any TP?).
Asymptomatic spread - was bullshit. Fauci knew it was bullshit and admitted it was bullshit early on. Without the suggestion that asymptomatics spread, THERE IS NO PANIC. Asymptomatic spread was absolutely necessary to drive fear into the heart of people. So they used it, abused it, and shoved it down our throats ... and they knew it wasn’t a true statement. Like I said, no asymptomatic spread theory, no shutdowns, no panic, just knowledge and asking people to be careful (see 57 and 68 or 58/69).
The religion of masks - imo, a diversionary tactic to keep people fighting and take their eyes off of other stuff. There is little to no evidence that masks, medical masks let alone cloth masks, are beneficially. Plenty of RCT’s out there with flu and masks that show little to no benefit even to slight increased risk. The Dutch study was far from perfect but it was done with covid and showed that masks made no difference. Yet look at how it’s hammered as if it would alter the course of the disease.
Vax after recovery - this is just anti-science. If you recovered (creating dozens of different antibodies), you don’t need a vax that pumps up one antibody. If the virus mutates enough to evade your natural immunity, it will surpass the vax immunity. Immunology 101.
.... burying the importance and strength of cell mediated immunity. Fauci is an expert ... he should be talking about this, but he evades it .....
Kids - has been TONS of world wide data and it’s very clear, yet we stay closed ...
"Asymptomatic spread - was bullshit."
Without the asymptomatic spread concept you can open schools with a person at the door checking everyone with an instant read thermometer. Same for restaurants and businesses. Same for casinos. Same for airlines. etc. etc.
The entire response changes. We would have responded like we did to the Spanish Flu. The sick were quarantined - not the entire population. The economy would still be affected - but nowhere near as much.
Some will say all of it was to get rid of Trump and sacrificing the economy was well worth it. I'm not that cynical. But I'll always wonder.
Good article below on this topic. A little long but proof for skeptics.
www.aier.org
Without the asymptomatic spread concept you can open schools with a person at the door checking everyone with an instant read thermometer. Same for restaurants and businesses. Same for casinos. Same for airlines. etc. etc.
The entire response changes. We would have responded like we did to the Spanish Flu. The sick were quarantined - not the entire population. The economy would still be affected - but nowhere near as much.
Some will say all of it was to get rid of Trump and sacrificing the economy was well worth it. I'm not that cynical. But I'll always wonder.
Good article below on this topic. A little long but proof for skeptics.
Asymptomatic Spread Revisited
"We keep hearing about how we should follow the science. The claim is tired by now. We know what’s really happening. The lockdown lobby ignores whatever contradicts their narrative, preferring unverified anecdotes over an actual scientific study of 10 million residents in what was the world’s...
www.aier.org
Exactly. The foundation of their house of cards had multiple elements, but asymptomatic spread was the primary driver of fear. Of course they knew that. Because it makes it a zombie apocalypse - when you see chinese walking and then falling over dead in the street and then tossed into a freezer. That’s what asymptomatic does. And they knew, as authorities, the public would take it in. Even though, if you remember early on ... Fauci flat out said something to the effect that “with respiratory viruses, asymptomatics have never been the driver” ... of course, weeks later, he back tracked, like he did with his original masks aren’t needed/masks will save the planet flip flop. As if ... the script needed new elements, new factors ... and those can be flipped again to make things better."Asymptomatic spread - was bullshit."
Without the asymptomatic spread concept you can open schools with a person at the door checking everyone with an instant read thermometer. Same for restaurants and businesses. Same for casinos. Same for airlines. etc. etc.
The entire response changes. We would have responded like we did to the Spanish Flu. The sick were quarantined - not the entire population. The economy would still be affected - but nowhere near as much.
Some will say all of it was to get rid of Trump and sacrificing the economy was well worth it. I'm not that cynical. But I'll always wonder.
Good article below on this topic. A little long but proof for skeptics.
Asymptomatic Spread Revisited
"We keep hearing about how we should follow the science. The claim is tired by now. We know what’s really happening. The lockdown lobby ignores whatever contradicts their narrative, preferring unverified anecdotes over an actual scientific study of 10 million residents in what was the world’s...
The response to a very real virus that was not nearly as dangerous as they made it out to be (the 400k isn’t real and even if it were, it’s 5x below the original scary projection) was bullshit, it was manufactured facts to drive fear.
Every one of this sick mf’ers that had a hand in molding it should end up burning in hell because a lot of unnecessary lives were lost - and children. Children.
Don’t know. That roadrunner teased the coyote a lot, could be construed as bullying. Roadrunner might be too edgy.
The Harry Reid's? Is that the same as a hissing cockroach or a stink bug? I like the idea of being the madagascar hissing cockroaches! 😁 https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/invertebrates/facts/madagascar-hissing-cockroach
I’m kind of in favor of coming up with a new name and matching mascot. Let them have what they want.
Then I can say I was a life long Runnin’ Rebel fan instead of being a UNLV fan. It’s kind of appropriate anyway. Give me the separation, cut those ties once and for always, please. Lol.
Then I can say I was a life long Runnin’ Rebel fan instead of being a UNLV fan. It’s kind of appropriate anyway. Give me the separation, cut those ties once and for always, please. Lol.
Honest question.
If the Hey Reb mascot is so problematic, will they bar people from entering the T&M and Raider Stadium who wear it?
Seriously. If you are going to 'take a stand' against racism, no half measures. That mascot should not adorn any clothing. People should not be allowed entrance if they have it on.
If its racists its racists and should be treated just like the Confederate flag.
Enforce that and I'll buy that this was truly an issue.
Let it slide and it was purely for optics and to placate a vocal few.
It’s a good question. If it’s deemed racist, then you’d think any garb bearing it would be racist. I mean, if someone really, really think it’s racist symbology, why does it matter if it’s a mascot or a piece of clothing?
If not, it’s just selective PC.
That's my feeling.
If you campaigned or advocated to have the mascot removed, then you must feel anybody who wears it is racist.
Those are the rules.
Before anybody chimes in with I'm insensitive on this topic
Syracuse changing from the Orangemen or St. John's from the Redmen..Yep I get it
Went to a Braves game two years ago. Tomahawk chop thing. Yeah, I get why it might be viewed as insensitive.
Understand Redskins being problematic. No issue there.
Indians mascot Chief Wahoo. Yeah, I get it.
I don't see a team being named the Indians a problem, so long as any depiction isn't stereotypical.
It's like people that argue about cultural appropriation.
If you are really against it, then you should probably reconsider wearing pants. Since, if I'm not mistaken they are of chinese design and origin and wearing them would be appropriation no?
Racism. It can either be (1) a set of ideas or (2) outward actions.
Examples of a set of ideas would be fearing a drive through a multicultural neighborhood or fearing for a child in a bi-racial relationship.
Example of outward action would be driving in the multicultural neighborhood and looking for a person to club with a bat.
I've lived long enough to see a huge change in the meaning of the word racism. 50 years ago a racist was someone who took action. You couldn't be held accountable for you thoughts. Now the definition has morphed more towards having a set of ideas. (If you are white you have racist ideas genetically - therefore all people your color are inherently racist and irredeemable)
IMO, the above idea of genetically induced racism can't be proven and I totally reject it.
As far as our former mascot goes, you have to twist yourself sideways to devise a reason it was racist. I'll continue to wear our clothing with our former logo until it's threadbare.
Examples of a set of ideas would be fearing a drive through a multicultural neighborhood or fearing for a child in a bi-racial relationship.
Example of outward action would be driving in the multicultural neighborhood and looking for a person to club with a bat.
I've lived long enough to see a huge change in the meaning of the word racism. 50 years ago a racist was someone who took action. You couldn't be held accountable for you thoughts. Now the definition has morphed more towards having a set of ideas. (If you are white you have racist ideas genetically - therefore all people your color are inherently racist and irredeemable)
IMO, the above idea of genetically induced racism can't be proven and I totally reject it.
As far as our former mascot goes, you have to twist yourself sideways to devise a reason it was racist. I'll continue to wear our clothing with our former logo until it's threadbare.
On all the major unlv web sights on Facebook I keep on saying: “Bring back Hey Reb!” It’s amazing how many students have bought into the idea that the mascot is actually racists WTH makes Hey Reb racist to these youngsters other than a form of fascism that has been ingrained into their brains?
