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Agree until the whole UNLV owes me money thing.Low blow moderator! You can't have your cake and eat it too. Decker was one of hauk's recruits and most would agree if the kid stays healthy we could very well be 6-6 or 7/5 and heading to a bowl.
I am totally sold on Sanchez and the new era but Hauck did get us to a bowl game and you can't say he didn't work at it. You might of not liked his style or technique but he was a class individual.
His best team was senior laden. They were either 5th year guys left over from Sanford or 'his' seniors.I didn't comment on him as an individual or whether or not he got us to a bowl game. I simply pointed out that he didn't bring a lot of depth to the team, poster.
Maybe I didn't express myself well enough. I'll try to be more clear next time I state that he didn't recruit well.
You're spot on looking back Sanford wasn't nearly as bad had way more talent on teams Bobby thought he could just roll out the same play book from Montana but nobody works the room like Coach Sanchez!His best team was senior laden. They were either 5th year guys left over from Sanford or 'his' seniors.
His last class was not one of his better classes in recruiting.
I don't think Hauck or Sanford were bad guys at all. Sanford's blow up when he was fired while handled poorly had a lot of truth in it. Hauck got us to a bowl. I am sure he asked for some improvements to facilities or some budget money to help with recruiting and was denied. I am sure both are still bitter to some degree.
That said neither Hauck or Sanford hustled or worked the town like Sanchez does for boosters. So in that sense some blame falls on them as well.
You're spot on looking back Sanford wasn't nearly as bad had way more talent on teams Bobby thought he could just roll out the same play book from Montana but nobody works the room like Coach Sanchez!
Bobby is allowed to talk to players who don't get in the game. He can grab one or two by the jersey each game and act like he's coaching them up.Does anybody think Rocky Long gives Bobby a headset and if so does he acctually plug it in? Or does he just pretend to make Bobby feel like he is doing something?
Considering how few times Rocky Long actually attempts FGs you are probably right.Bobby is allowed to talk to players who don't get in the game. He can grab one or two by the jersey each game and act like he's coaching them up.
Will-Most of the 2015 recruits didn't unseat the returning player that had been recruited prior to the coaching change.
Hauck also recruited guys that have been loyal to the UNLV program and have rarely had guys that didn't stick around to develop with the program through a career. With Decker, this is a very competitive football team.
I like what Sanchez has been able to produce on the field early with the guys buying in and competing early under the New Era slogan. The biggest thing moving into the off-season will be player retention, academic development, youth physical development and to see if the returning guys can replicate the effort shown on the field this season without the freshness of working under a new staff.
I like the promise but I still feel Hauck built a competitive roster during his stay that was much more physically capable than previous staffs.
ExactlyThat said neither of them went out and shook hands and kissed babies like Sanchez has. What funding the university won't give him, he is going out and securing himself.
Ultimately that and a stronger staff and infrastructure will be why he succeeds where those two failed.Exactly
I agree, Hauck wasn't a horrible recruiter by any means. He brought in some talented guys and developed some others along the way. The problem is there weren't/aren't enough of them just yet. Our starting 11's were relatively competitive then and now. The issue is the drop from our 1s and 2's.
You can read this quote some many different ways. Out of context I cannot tell who he is specifically addressing.For me, Hauck's recruiting wasn't a problem. His last season saw the New Mexico and Hawaii games slip away in the final minute that prevented a 4 win season.
The NIU game and Utah State losses were very competitive before they pulled away. Even his last game versus Nevada the team held a 17-14 advantage at the half.
He rolled the dice on youth at linebacker along with a productive junior college quarterback and got burned but every other unit on that team played solid.
Minus Decker turnover issues, Hauck would have had back-to-back bowl games.
A year into a new coaching staff, Hauck is now in the past but he built a good team during his stay.
Sanchez brings a different energy but year two is the biggest test for his tenure.
The biggest question heading into the off-season is will there be a new football facility and when?
This Wyoming contest is a must win to have a positive kick heading into the winter.
My biggest question is player retention and this quote from the RJ caught my attention:
“This is one of those nights where people have got to make decisions,” Sanchez said. “We know where we’re going and we have a plan, and we have a lot of guys on board with it, and the ones that aren’t, we’ve got to push out of the way and keep moving on."
Hopefully a promising season doesn't turn into an attempt to completely overhaul a very good base of talent.
I dont think it will be an "overhaul" but its common in year 2 of a new coach to see some guys transfer or leave the program for different reasons, whether it be playing time or just not the right fit anymore.
There are a few position groups I can see losing some "back-ups" (more toward the guys buried down #3 or 4 at a spot) or guys who are falling behind Redshirts and true freshman but I feel like all of this seasons key contributors that are not seniors will be back.
I wasn't a fan of Hauck's approach of recruiting but considering what he had available to pitch, I think he did a decent job. I prefer what Sanchez has done developing early relationships with players. I think that is why we are still in the mix for Lagow. Sanchez can also sell a future that includes the new football facility, and maybe a stadium down the road. Hauck never had that. That said though he did very little to get booster support or drum up money. That is in no way meant to belittle what Sanchez is doing or say he has it easier. The work he has put in off the field is why there is even a discussion of a football facility.Listen Hauck developed some decent talent however a few diamonds in the rough don't make a good recruiter nor get the job done.
Hauck relied on picking up last minute commitments from borderline academic qualifiers and leftovers of from other programs. He would wait to last minute, swipe in and make an offer and at times it worked. But it's not a long term recruiting strategy that's going to move UNLV to the next level.
I'm thankful from the gems that Hauck recruited but the team struggled mightily in recruiting. Furthermore, Hauck created a part of the APR fiasco which may be indicative of his recruiting strategy.
Hauck always running a trick play, if it's not on the field it's in recruiting. Neither worked for him.
Sometimes its addition by subtraction.Probably not a bad thing to be honest the expectations and direction are clear you fit or you don't fit it's not necessarily a bad thing in fact it may be quite the opposite.
You are right that falls on the coach. Which is why Sanchez has made a concerted effort in that area. I do have little faith in how the NCAA monitors it, and the way the APR is calculated borders on the ridiculous.The APR thing was a massive failure to keep these kids GPA where it needs to be. Defections and turnover had a lot to do with as well but that is still on the coach.
One thing I remember about how the apr is calculated is if a player leaves early but has a guaranteed contract he doesn't count against the school because it is looked at like they left school for there profession. First round NBA picks and I think 1-4 round NFL picks fall into this category.My thing with apr is how are any of the top basketball programs in compliance when 4 starters are leaving for the nba early every year with most being freshmen
Same way with football. LSU kicked the 'honey badger' off the team for conduct, that same year they had I believe 9-10 guys go to the NFL and some of them were underclassman. I am supposed to believe that the Honey Badger was doing things that git him kicked off the football team, but he was keeping up with his studies?My thing with apr is how are any of the top basketball programs in compliance when 4 starters are leaving for the nba early every year with most being freshmen
Very convenient for the Alabama/LSU/FSU's of the world. Or in basketball UNC/UK's of the world.One thing I remember about how the apr is calculated is if a player leaves early but has a guaranteed contract he doesn't count against the school because it is looked at like they left school for there profession. First round NBA picks and I think 1-4 round NFL picks fall into this category.
Very true Bullmastiff.Very convenient for the Alabama/LSU/FSU's of the world. Or in basketball UNC/UK's of the world.
Very true Bullmastiff.
Also about transfers is if they are in good academic standing then only one point counts against them and not two if they transfer.
APR seems difficult but in all honesty it's not. Here's a link to remedial explanation. http://basketball.about.com/od/collegebasketballglossary/g/Academic-Progress-Rate-Apr.htm
I guess there are some caveats but there not extensive.
Wait a minute! IIRC, at the beginning of the season, the hope was that Sanchez would win at least one more than last season. Some hoped for four. I did, too. My only fear is that Sanchez and staff are somewhat deflated with this season. I do hope his enthusiasm for the program is not diminished by the result of this season. Even one win over last season is a building block. Go Rebels!!Sanchez could have really used a couple more wins this year. Every year he isn't bowl eligible makes it harder for him to get better recruits. The same happened to Hauck. His best recruiting was in his first two years. I believe Sanford, too. A coach can sell a dream only so long. But when the dream doesn't come true, and your team has three or less wins year after year, it's hard to sell that anymore. Plus, a UNLV coach can't sell anything else. Not facilities, not tradition, not fan base etc. etc. Weaker schedules are coming. Better facilities are coming. Let's hope that's enough, fast enough.