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MWC & PAC Mediation Discussion for Poaching & Exit Fees

Any word of the timeframe of the PAC announcing the new media deal? They've said it doesn't really matter too much on who the 8th team is, so why not just put it out there?
Because its bad and the commissioner is still trying to find other partners that can help increase it... thats the only thing that I can think of at this point knowing that she has said they were searching for "partners"
 
Agree 100% on the last part. The Pac signed the agreement meant to protect the MW against being backstabbed aka poached, but the Pac did it anyway and now doesn't want to pay what we agreed upon. F- that. Then we bend over and give soon to be irrelevant Gonzaga a full share when they don't play FB. And are now having to find someone - anyone - to be the 8th full member. What a bunch of shit.
What will become interest is if Gonzaga become irrelevant in basketball, while the rest of the conference is subsidizing them with football earnings!
 
By keeping the MWC teams closer, this gave them a foothold for negotiations that wouldn't have existed if they played teams in the Sunbelt which would have just speed up the irreverence of the PAC 2. It isn't us against them, it is them committing what was without question collusion and without question fraud. Do you honestly believe that the PAC2 didn't talk between each other how they would steal teams from the MWC prior to and after they signed the agreement with the MWC. Fraud in the fact that they had no intention of every honoring the agreement that they signed. Simple fact is they are crooked, and figured that breaking the rules and breaking contracts was no big deal if they thought they could get away with it. From day one the PAC2 knew what they were going to do! It is just more proof that the college education system and integrity never went hand in hand!
That is a stretch. If true, it is impossible to prove.

I don't think the PAC used the scheduling agreement to get closer to MW teams to poach them later. Even if true, that is a completely stupid strategy. I am not arguing that the PAC has done really dumb things, because they have over and over again. But again, if that was their strategy it hurts them down the road.

It would make more sense to reach out to the Sunbelt or CUSA and keep the MW teams completely out of it, knowing that they can still contact schools that they are interested in without any of the issues they now face. On top of that they probably wouldn't have to pay 2-3x over market for those games.

The main point of contention is were they under any duress. You have to acknowledge that they were. Actually you don't have to, but all signs are pointing to the fact that their argument holds water, even with the signed contract. there have been reports of MW teams not expecting nearly what they though after signing the GOR agreement. Which is why the GOR put clauses in there that it would still hold up even if payouts were significantly reduced.

Or the fact that UNLV just had to finance 2 HC contracts and buyout another one, without any use of MW bonus money, because they cannot count on any specific number coming through.

They were starving and they went to McDonalds (their favorite fast food restaurant Mc'D's charged then 2-3 times of every item, and made them sign an agreement that it will cost 10x the price for the next item in the future, with an increase of 10% above that for every additional item. If Wendy's and Taco bell were open around the corner, why agree to that? It is because they were closed.
 
1- yes, you split the basketball payouts and join a conference that actually wanted you.
2. shared money- no, you got your payday after being left out, you accept reality and join the MWC pay the entry fee of 18 million or whatever it is and we go get a kick ass TV media deal that pays 15 million a year as the best G5 conference in all sports.

No, but I also wouldnt come crying foul play and saying you were forced into signing an agreement that forces you to pay a penalty if you try and tear the conference apart that helps you out... How much market value were you willing to shed to play in CUSA or WAC for 2 years to avoid paying a penalty should you poach the conference that said "sure, we can schedule you, it helps us both"...
First no way the merged conference would pay 15 million. If that were the case the merger would have 100% happened.

Crying foul. We totally effed them with that scheduling agreement. We pay Syracuse 300k for playing us, but we charge them over a million for every home and road game?

We totally abused their situation to rake them for those games, then try to force them to merge by adding the poaching agreement.

Who knows what else was discussed, but I imagine that sharing the revenue gained by being abandoned of the rest of the PAC was probably in play. I mean we screwed them with everything else we have done with them, why not that? It is all the same conference right?
 
First no way the merged conference would pay 15 million. If that were the case the merger would have 100% happened.

Crying foul. We totally effed them with that scheduling agreement. We pay Syracuse 300k for playing us, but we charge them over a million for every home and road game?

We totally abused their situation to rake them for those games, then try to force them to merge by adding the poaching agreement.

Who knows what else was discussed, but I imagine that sharing the revenue gained by being abandoned of the rest of the PAC was probably in play. I mean we screwed them with everything else we have done with them, why not that? It is all the same conference right?
If you go to buy a car, and they quote you 2x the cost of the car, will you still buy it and then sue them because they charged you so much? Or would you at least go and shop around to see if you could find a better deal?

It's not an all or nothing thing. They could have done an agreement with other conferences, including smaller conferences, but they knew that their best option was with the MWC, due to getting better quality games than if they played against MAC schools. Geographically, it makes more sense also, as opposed to scheduling games vs. the AAC, Sunbelt, etc.

They had options. The MWC made a deal that was fruitful for the conference, with the additional agreement in place to protect the conference from the PAC poaching teams due to their new scheduling agreement. The PAC made the choice to accept the scheduling deal (which means they thought it was the best option that they had, and agreed to the poaching clause). Now they want to claim that the agreements that they signed up for shouldn't be upheld?
 
Because its bad and the commissioner is still trying to find other partners that can help increase it... thats the only thing that I can think of at this point knowing that she has said they were searching for "partners"
Supposedly after the final 4. But that could change to after March Madness.
I had read for months that it would be in March. April Fools on me.
Gonzaga supposedly keeps most of their tournament credits too. Great for Gonzaga. Go them.
Half of their tourney credits. But all teams do get the same deal (I think, G-D better be). Granted, the main reason to add Gonzaga (IMHO) is their tourney income But they get to keep half, and fully share in overall media money? This is the worst F-ing deal ever.
 
I had read for months that it would be in March. April Fools on me.

Half of their tourney credits. But all teams do get the same deal (I think, G-D better be). Granted, the main reason to add Gonzaga (IMHO) is their tourney income But they get to keep half, and fully share in overall media money? This is the worst F-ing deal ever.
The PAC2 leaders were so desperate to separate themselves from the MWC, that they were will to cur their own throat to say "Look we are big time basketball now that we have Gonzaga"! Now they are getting a basketball program that wasn't even in the top 25, who now get to keep half of their basketball money and an equal portion of the football money even while not having a football team! The PAC2 just keep finding ways to screw the pooch!
 
I had read for months that it would be in March. April Fools on me.

Half of their tourney credits. But all teams do get the same deal (I think, G-D better be). Granted, the main reason to add Gonzaga (IMHO) is their tourney income But they get to keep half, and fully share in overall media money? This is the worst F-ing deal ever.
There are still people who think the Pac will get $18-20m per school. Regardless of how much you think they will get, you have to plug in that number to see if Gonzaga can cover. Great for Gonzaga if they're having a down year. Bad for everyone in the Pac if they miss the tournament or don't have a deep run.
 
There are still people delusional dipshits who think the Pac will get $18-20m per school. Regardless of how much you think they will get, you have to plug in that number to see if Gonzaga can cover. Great for Gonzaga if they're having a down year. Bad for everyone in the Pac if they miss the tournament or don't have a deep run.
Fixed your post........ :)
 
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