College Basketball - NIL and the dying sport

[Rebel1986]

All you need to do as look at who is playing who to know that NIL money is killing college basketball.

Final 8 teams:

4 #1 seeds
3 #2 seeds
1 #3 seed

NIL has quickly ended the Cinderella team in basketball, now it is just who has the biggest budget to buy a national championship. I am curious what happens in the next few years as many teams figure out that they have zero chance of ever being competitive in college basketball again?

 

[unlv91]

All you need to do as look at who is playing who to know that NIL money is killing college basketball.

Final 8 teams:

4 #1 seeds
3 #2 seeds
1 #3 seed

NIL has quickly ended the Cinderella team in basketball, now it is just who has the biggest budget to buy a national championship. I am curious what happens in the next few years as many teams figure out that they have zero chance of ever being competitive in college basketball again?

It is beyond ridiculous. To start off there needs to be salary caps Per team and three year contracts per player

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

All you need to do as look at who is playing who to know that NIL money is killing college basketball.

Final 8 teams:

4 #1 seeds
3 #2 seeds
1 #3 seed

NIL has quickly ended the Cinderella team in basketball, now it is just who has the biggest budget to buy a national championship. I am curious what happens in the next few years as many teams figure out that they have zero chance of ever being competitive in college basketball again?

I usually loathe government involvement but in this case they keep talking about congress getting involved with regulations that might be the best hope since the schools themselves surely won’t and the NCAA is a meaningless entity now.

 

[rebels1990]

While I understand the premise of the argument and it may be true, but I think we need more data because this year also had some abnormally elite teams at the top of the bracket and how the E8 has shaken out shouldn't be a surprise. I'm just not sure if it's a product of NIL just yet, if we are seeing the same three years from now, that's a better argument.

 

[saulpaul21]

While I understand the premise of the argument and it may be true, but I think we need more data because this year also had some abnormally elite teams at the top of the bracket and how the E8 has shaken out shouldn't be a surprise. I'm just not sure if it's a product of NIL just yet, if we are seeing the same three years from now, that's a better argument.

All you need to see is the number of starters from g5 and lower going to p4 schools each year. The non p4 teams are farm teams for p4. That is why the first 2 rounds were so boring this year.

Used to be the p4 18 and 19 year old stars were pretty even to a non p4 22 year Olds.

Now p4 are 22 year old experienced vets. Hard to beat them.

 

[rebels1990]

All you need to see is the number of starters from g5 and lower going to p4 schools each year. The non p4 teams are farm teams for p4. That is why the first 2 rounds were so boring this year.

Used to be the p4 18 and 19 year old stars were pretty even to a non p4 22 year Olds.

Now p4 are 22 year old experienced vets. Hard to beat them.

But there was NIL last year and the E8 also included 2 4s, a 6 and 11 So I don't think you can use the data of the original post of the seeds in the E8 and say, "yup NIL" just yet

 

[Rebel1986]

But there was NIL last year and the E8 also included 2 4s, a 6 and 11 So I don't think you can use the data of the original post of the seeds in the E8 and say, "yup NIL" just yet

All you need to do is look at how many of the better players from the MWC have already been grabbed up by schools offering them more money then they will make in the rest of their lives combined. When paying millions to a college basketball player who has barely above a zero chance to make the NBA, you know that every decent players is going to be at one of the major schools which will leave only bench players on the lower level teams in comparison to the top 20-30 teams.

 

[j. spilotro]

You do need more data. But looking at rosters and especially the eye test … these teams 50 UNLV with three starters out. I think this is the way it will be moving forward. The NCAA won’t do squat, their jobs are easier this way. And they’ll get the kickbacks. It reminds me of corporate America now.

Legislation by Congress? Eh, they’d get paid off too. Plus those in power graduated from these types of schools.

You could see it moving in this direction for two decades. Rather than legislation, I think we will eventually see a permanent break. It’s why conference affiliation was so critical. Had UNLV awaken in the 80’s, 90’s, 2000’s, even early 2010’s … maybe, just maybe.

If there is a complete severance, it’s not because our coaches didn’t win enough. It will be because UNLV not only failed to capitalize on the fortunes of the 80s/90s, but because they intentionally dismantled it.

Maxson won.

 

[Masked_rebel]

All you need to do as look at who is playing who to know that NIL money is killing college basketball.

Final 8 teams:

4 #1 seeds
3 #2 seeds
1 #3 seed

NIL has quickly ended the Cinderella team in basketball, now it is just who has the biggest budget to buy a national championship. I am curious what happens in the next few years as many teams figure out that they have zero chance of ever being competitive in college basketball again?

I don't think NIL ended Cinderella.. I think the SEC being given 14 teams messed up tournament seeding and that ruined matchups that typically benefit Cinderella runs. SEC teams due to their ratings made seeding difficult. Also there was less opportunities for multi bid mid major leagues

 

[rebneck]

I've sadly watch Cinderella go from not well, to terminally ill, to life support over the last couple decades. She is what made this tournament so special. Yet, there are many out there who have wanted to pull the plug for years, saying she doesn't, and never has, belonged. "Only the richest, most beautiful shall be worthy. Let us tell you who they are." Only problem is, many of them only hang out with rich and beautiful, and aren't so themselves. The SEC this year is a perfect example, as is the P4, in general. If the auto-bid killers get their way - and it may be only unofficially - I'll be off to the country in my mouse-drawn pumpkin carriage in March, not watching the Spring Debutante Ball that has become the once delightful Madness.

An Obit for Cinderella

 

[Rebel1986]

Following up on how NIL has changed the game:

Men Final Four: All four #1 seeds

Women Final Four: First two games #1 seed. Final two games #1 vs #2

Potential for all 8 teams to be #1 seeds!