I don't believe that this would prevent him from taking a head coaching position this year.Harsin just hired as the Cal OC.
I don't believe that this would prevent him from taking a head coaching position this year.Harsin just hired as the Cal OC.
They have a 70 million dollar revenue stream from tv, so they have money to throw around. The problem is, the Oregons, the USCs, Ohio States, Michigans have the deepest pockets of anyone in college football + the tv revenue.It makes more money, it is in a better conference that just got 4 teams into the playoff, and their heated rival which has also been a punching bag just got in.
Maybe they finally decided to wake TF up and actually put some money and effort into football. That is what they are saying they would do, and this move helps confirm that move.
Last year, I would agree with you 100%. But seeing Indiana, who was our example as a place you can't win, just defy the odds changed my mind 100%
Let’s hope he has the same level of integrity as Bobby Petrino…I don't believe that this would prevent him from taking a head coaching position this year.
Indiana is in the B1G and had an easy schedule. That means that is possible for Purdue.They have a 70 million dollar revenue stream from tv, so they have money to throw around. The problem is, the Oregons, the USCs, Ohio States, Michigans have the deepest pockets of anyone in college football + the tv revenue.
As far as Indiana goes, they had the easiest schedule in that conference and got extremely lucky. Purdue may have the toughest schedule next season and I don’t see the Indiana miracle season coming for Purdue.
Lastly, Odom was successful at UNLV because he actually brought in talent from Arkansas and his SEC connections. I don’t think bringing unlv guys or this recruiting class to Purdue will change their bottom of the barrel status in the B1G. Like I said, total head scratcher when you remove the 6 million dollar contract.
Oregon has Nike money, literally an unlimited fund. USC the same, Ohio State, Michigan has one of the top classes in the country. Then Penn State, Wisconsin, Illinois are all in on the NIL train.Indiana is in the B1G and had an easy schedule. That means that is possible for Purdue.
It is probably better that the easy schedule isn't next year. He can build up a bit first so he can take advantage of it.
Oregon coming in from a lesser conference and going undefeated is proof that the B1G is more wide open than expected. Ohio State seems to lose the big game every year. Michigan isn't the same without Harbaugh.
AGain I would have agreed without 100% this last season, but what just happened this year shows how up for grabs the Big 10 truly is.
CorrectamundoThe money was to retain was there earlier than yesterday. It wasn’t a last second scraping together …
So much outside money at Boise that we don't currently haveMy gut says to just hire Marion!
I know some THINK that is a step backwards, but Utah & Boise both hired within when the coach, that turned their programs around, left (Meyer & Hawkins). Look at both those programs since. They both carried on the success.
I know its a different potato, but being hired as OC here didn't mean Petrino couldn't leave after a couple of days. There was a basketball coach too. I think his name was Bird.I don't believe that this would prevent him from taking a head coaching position this year.
Did it ever get released how much money they were willing to pay Odom to stay per year? From what I have read it sounds like it was a substantial increase in pay, but I have no clue what that means? Are we talking $3 million per year? $4 million per year?The money was to retain was there earlier than yesterday. It wasn’t a last second scraping together …
Indiana can do it so can Purdue. They are basically the same. Cignetti's original contract was 4.25 mil.Oregon has Nike money, literally an unlimited fund. USC the same, Ohio State, Michigan has one of the top classes in the country. Then Penn State, Wisconsin, Illinois are all in on the NIL train.
Throwing 6 million at Odom isn’t going to scare anyone in the B1G, most of them are making 8-12 million. Odom’s pay is still in the bottom of the conference.
There’s a long ways to go for Purdue. Again, total head scratcher when you remove the personal financial gain aspect.
If the next coach signs for 2 mil or less I doubt we went higher than 2.5Did it ever get released how much money they were willing to pay Odom to stay per year? From what I have read it sounds like it was a substantial increase in pay, but I have no clue what that means? Are we talking $3 million per year? $4 million per year?
Considering he was already going to make over $2 million next year, that would be a relatively small raise if that is true., and wouldn't be much more than Utah State will pay Bronco.If the next coach signs for 2 mil or less I doubt we went higher than 2.5
I agree.Considering he was already going to make over $2 million next year, that would be a relatively small raise if that is true., and wouldn't be much more than Utah State will pay Bronco.
Odom went where the money was, his agent likely told him this was probably the best he will ever get. Indiana just doubled Cignetti’s contract and they are all in on the football team. Their NIL offerings are better and will continue to get better.Indiana can do it so can Purdue. They are basically the same. Cignetti's original contract was 4.25 mil.
Purdue is saying they will up their game.
Times change. We freaking put together a 4 mil per year package for him. No one would have thought that could happen a year ago.
I think it is obvious that Odom thinks he can be successful there just like here. We have advantages over our peers that he doesn't have, but at the same time I think he probably would do better with not top talent vs a bunch of prima donnas. Getting that level of player to fully buy into the team concept is tough.
Which AD did the hiring for Mezzo?Odom went where the money was, his agent likely told him this was probably the best he will ever get. Indiana just doubled Cignetti’s contract and they are all in on the football team. Their NIL offerings are better and will continue to get better.
My point is that Purdue is swimming against a different current than Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin etc. It’s a much tougher current. He’s looking at 10 Boise state type programs in that conference and maybe 3 wins next season. Boom! Right away his seat will be warm.
Unlv just needs to nail this next hire as Mizzou did.
Indiana was in the exact same spot 2 years ago. Purdue can be the same. They are saying they will change. Gasp! It just might. Upping their HC game isn't bad start. They have seen first hand what more invesment can do for a perennial bottom feeder in that conference. Considering it is their hated rival, that probably makes the commitment statements much moreplausibleOdom went where the money was, his agent likely told him this was probably the best he will ever get. Indiana just doubled Cignetti’s contract and they are all in on the football team. Their NIL offerings are better and will continue to get better.
My point is that Purdue is swimming against a different current than Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin etc. It’s a much tougher current. He’s looking at 10 Boise state type programs in that conference and maybe 3 wins next season. Boom! Right away his seat will be warm.
Unlv just needs to nail this next hire as Mizzou did.
Jim Sterk, former SDSU AD.Which AD did the hiring for Mezzo?
Yeah it happened one time it doesn't make it likely. UNLV made him an offer that promised wealth but he wanted to chase every penny so good luck with that. If it doesn't work out he will have his money and can go back to being a TE coach.USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, Penn State, Washington, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, and now Indiana on a yearly basis and ALL have more money and investment in their football programs. There is not a chance he can even sniff the playoffs at Purdue. He's going to make money. Nothing wrong with that, but this move has little to do with football.
Purdue fans and Odom can convince themselves that but again, look at the schedule. He’s got a tough job. If he can’t win by 2026, he is toast.Indiana was in the exact same spot 2 years ago. Purdue can be the same. They are saying they will change. Gasp! It just might. Upping their HC game isn't bad start. They have seen first hand what more invesment can do for a perennial bottom feeder in that conference. Considering it is their hated rival, that probably makes the commitment statements much moreplausible
The fact at that an Odom disciple doesn't mean much. Look at of the other successful HCs out there that had poorly performing disciples. Then went with the diet version, now they are going Coke classic.
He could fail miserably. Not saying he won't. If he does he still gets every last penny.
But I don't believe that is what HE thinks will happen. I believe HE believes in his process and that he will be successful. If it were strictly for money he would have stayed. 4 mil a year we a much much longer leash would pay him more in the long run. He went for the challenge and the possiblilty to compete at the highest level.
You guys sound like jilted lovers. Move on. He raised the bar. Focus on your next hire.Purdue fans and Odom can convince themselves that but again, look at the schedule. He’s got a tough job. If he can’t win by 2026, he is toast.
You look at Odoms career, there’s barely any significant wins. No bowl wins, no top 50 wins (at least at unlv). He’s going to suddenly compete with Ohio States, Oregons? I don’t think so.
USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, Penn State, Washington, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, and now Indiana on a yearly basis and ALL have more money and investment in their football programs. There is not a chance he can even sniff the playoffs at Purdue. He's going to make money. Nothing wrong with that, but this move has little to do with football.
Purdue fans and Odom can convince themselves that but again, look at the schedule. He’s got a tough job. If he can’t win by 2026, he is toast.
You look at Odoms career, there’s barely any significant wins. No bowl wins, no top 50 wins (at least at unlv). He’s going to suddenly compete with Ohio States, Oregons? I don’t think so.
Purdue is probably the only one that actually offered him a job. Making the top 5 of that conference is tough sledding especially for a HC that’s never won a bowl game or any game of any significant opposition.Purdue has a bigger endowment than Indiana.
Indiana is the comp here. They were also a lost cause of a school in terms of football competitiveness until they weren't. Again if Indiana can do it, so can Purdue. They have to put their money where their mouth is .
Was the money the biggest driver here? Sure. Not arguing that.
But you are insinuating that Odom knows it is a lost cause and that he is getting fired in 3-4 years or sooner and he is just going to take the money to the bank.
I don't believe that. He believes in himself and his process. He is young and wants to coach. He wants to compete at the highest level. We are all butt hurt because deep down we all know that too and want him to be here instead.
He doesn't necessarily have to beat Oregon, and OSU, and Michigan, he just needs to finish 4th. Get some momentum then who knows.
Bottom line it is a better job than here. I also think it is better than UCF.
Endowment at a school that emphasizes academics means zilch.Purdue has a bigger endowment than Indiana.
Yeah, except the next hire is going to be an average hire at best especially since UNLV will soon be playing in a glorified Sun Belt Conference after next season.You guys sound like jilted lovers. Move on. He raised the bar. Focus on your next hire.
Hoping the average hire part is wrong but the second part is certainly true about the new MWC 3.0 in 2 years.Yeah, except the next hire is going to be an average hire at best especially since UNLV will soon be playing in a glorified Sun Belt Conference after next season.
My point was before 2 years ago, was Indiana doing anything different in terms of commitment that Purdue was doing?Endowment at a school that emphasizes academics means zilch.
I guess I agree if Indiana can do it, so can Purdue. However, it took a perfect storm schedule to get them there. Any other season and they're 8-4.
I think Odom has confidence in himself, but Purdue is about winning.
My gut says to just hire Marion!
I know some THINK that is a step backwards, but Utah & Boise both hired within when the coach, that turned their programs around, left (Meyer & Hawkins). Look at both those programs since. They both carried on the success.
Michigan State is a better job than both and we all saw Jonathan Smith stumble around up there after bolting from Oregon State. Another underwhelming season and he’s in trouble.My point was before 2 years ago, was Indiana doing anything different in terms of commitment that Purdue was doing?
The are very similar schools. Both known more for Basketball. Both struggled in football, but you can make the argument that Purdue has been much much more relevant in football over the years than Indiana has been before this season.
Marion is gone. My speculation but he’s removed UNLV from most of his social media, not the interim for the LA Bowl, and his limited public comments/posts appear to be implicit goodbyes.Surface seems like a logical move, probably reduces some of the portal losses keeps the recruiting class intact to some degree.
But Harper's watched the guy for two years now. And he wasn't even given the interim job for bowl game. So there must be some red flags there.
Speculating of course but I think not getting the interim tag for one game is kind of telling.
Marion is gone. My speculation but he’s removed UNLV from most of his social media, not the interim for the LA Bowl, and his limited public comments/posts appear to be implicit goodbyes.
If he’s a legitimate option, that’s enough to tell you UNLV is not serious about trying to maintain/build upon what has been accomplished, imo.Definitely the case. I was more laying out why he's likely not an option. I just try not to speak in absolutes because you just never know.
If he’s a legitimate option, that’s enough to tell you UNLV is not serious about trying to maintain/build upon what has been accomplished, imo.
Maybe Sac State or something. His Alma won’t even touch him.Marion is not an option and probably has been told so. That guy wants to be a HC if he were in play why would he not go all in on UNLV now and then if he is not picked go back to Purdue, would be totally understandable. But he isn’t so you know either he understands the writing in the wall with Harpers comments or he has been told point blank he is not a candidate. I do think it is curious if he goes to Purdue, my guess is he is not at either next year.