bcvegaspt2 said:

Sorry for stealing your idea. I couldn’t read every page on here.

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LOL, not stealing my idea at all. We're just thinking along the same lines, I like it.

SilverSpoon said:

If anyone is responsible for our ranking, it's our defense. In my opinion, Sluka had Marion's system limited because of his arm. I can't be the only one here that saw that. I think the players comments at the start of the season about all 3 QB's were spot on. Wish I knew where I could find that again.

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You must not have watched the Kansas game. Sure the defense played well, but so did there’s. Sluka won that game with some clutch 3rd down, making something out of nothing plays. Unfortunately he also got a big head about it and is out.

I still am not wrapping my head around how that is even possible with his NIL “contract”.

Rod_the_Rebel said:

Quite big for the dad to come out and say this stuff


This may be our death

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Nah, it's still his side of the spin... what's to say that wasn't an additional 100k last February...

IMO, we paid everything he was entitled to in any written contract. If we didn't, we'd get sued and lose. Must have been - as his dad said _ a verbal promise of additional money that didn't come through.

this conference stuff has had me almost done with the school in general…..wasn’t sure what to do and needed a sign, and this morning Slukunt quits because he’s either a piece of crap or we are….hahahahahahaha sign received

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oneepstein said:

Absolutely this.

Too many unknowns and rumors less than 24 hours after BUT IF there is a shred of truth I would want the coaching staff to use this as a teaching moment for the entire country.

No need to “keep things internal” when you’ve so publicly been treated as such. Time to salt the earth in front of him and everyone who thinks they’ll come after.

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I wish. Odom will keep it classy even though the program was screwed by the Bob Sugar’s of the world. Bob Sugar is a snake!

There was a complete dimension of our offense that wasn't being used nearly enough. Now we'll see White, DeJesus and company get theirs. Also will make it hard to scheme defensively. Plus, if the team likes HMW then we probably won't slip a beat. S hurt animal fight harder. Lucky we have an additional week.

Quite big for the dad to come out and say this stuff


This may be our death

So...

Who did us more dirty? Pitino or Sluka?

It's essentially the same action of using UNLV to better yourself. I left Maxson out because he's at the top regardless and it's a different beast.


I'm going to argue Pitino because, essentially, we're still bleeding from that one.

Rebel Hoya said:

He definitely was not being replaced. Leads the team/program to the first top 25 ranking ever but we’re going to try the other guy!? Huh?

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If anyone is responsible for our ranking, it's our defense. In my opinion, Sluka had Marion's system limited because of his arm. I can't be the only one here that saw that. I think the players comments at the start of the season about all 3 QB's were spot on. Wish I knew where I could find that again.

Heard on other media his father is saying an assistant coach made a verbal promise that $ 100 thousand would come Sluka's way and it never materialized.

ckfitz said:

If UNLV's side of the story is true, any school involved in the poaching should be suspended for the rest of the year.

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Well, unfortunately, that's the catch in this whole thing. Once agents become involved, it gets messy. If ASU (for example) goes to the NIL agent and says, we'd really like a mobile QB who has led his team to a 3-0 start, and are willing to pay him $XXX if he goes on redshirt and transfers to our school, but doesn't mention him by name, and that message gets relayed to Sluka, is the University at fault? Or at this point, does it even matter if they tell the agent his name and tell them to find out how much he wants? I don't know that there are any rules in place for this whole NIL game.

bcvegaspt2 said:

One question about the payout of the exit fees, poaching fees, etc. - Are conference teams legally allowed to receive those funds after the money is given to the league? Maybe that's why UNLV is waiting to make a decision. Why not take the $$ and use it as our exit fees?

This makes sense to me but is it realistic legally?

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The exit fees from the schools leaving aren’t due until the effective date of their departure. However, all media rights payments from departing schools are withheld during the interim period (time they announce until the effective date) to be used to pay those exit fees.

According to what I’ve read in the bylaws those media rights payments are made on June 1st of each year. Right now those 2 payments from the 5 schools are the only somewhat guaranteed money to be paid to the conference.

Everything else will be litigated.

reagan21 said:

UNLV is an exemption to that old adage

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You're not wrong. We are due.

LVRebel2000 said:

that's what I have been talking about too. If UNLV decides in 30 days, are those exit fees paid out to the remaining schools? Or is the MWC going to hold onto them?

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Sorry for stealing your idea. I couldn’t read every page on here.

LVRebel2000 said:

Don't the NIL contracts have language in them to protect the schools/donors from exactly this type of situation? I mean, ultimately it's a contract of sorts, so if you sign it and bail, I would think you'd be subject to lawsuit for breach of contract. Then again, I have no idea how they format this and what sort of rules are in place for NIL since it's such a new deal.

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If UNLV's side of the story is true, any school involved in the poaching should be suspended for the rest of the year.

Bullmastiff 1 said:

If AFA were to come to agreement with AAC tomorrow would you still be in the camp of stay put and take the money?

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“Stay and take the money” is no longer an option IMHO, as the conference is no longer worth rebuilding. No matter how large the promise of cash for you to stay ($50million anyone?) there is no guarantee you are even going to see half of that… and to do what? Expand on a conference with SJSU, UNM, WYO, UNR, HI, and AF, with what?

You’d be G5 in name only and you’d be dead with absolutely zero shot at ever being able to make a name for yourself that even warrants invitation to another G5, much less a P4.

No amount of money that’s realistic is worth that.

The only question now is how do you get out without paying $18million?

Air Force and UNLV are the only teams left with any value… which is why they got promised bonuses and a bigger share if they stayed. Both have had interest shown in them by the AAC and the PAC, the extent to which I’m not sure, but even behind the scenes I’m sure it’s there. Both I’m sure have issues paying the exit fees I’m sure as well… we obviously know this with UNLV but I’m sure it has to be the same with a government funded service academy to at least some extent.

So the play is this IMHO…

UNLV and AFA go to the MW and say “look, we feel for you guys, we really do, but it’s over and there ain’t nothing left but the crying. This is not a viable conference as it is and no matter who you want to add isn’t going to make it so. Now we can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way… waive the conference exit fee for us or we’ll block anyone you try to add (that would be the quiet part that’s implied)… you can continue your collection efforts with the PAC and those other traitors and then you 5 can split the money you collect. That’s an extra 6% of the total settlement to each one of you sorry ass schools.

Once you let us out we’ll announce our intentions and you can get back to building your conference back up with whoever you want and you’ll all have a boatload of cash in reserves… how’s that sound?”

I don’t think the MW can say no.

If I’m UNLV and AFA I stick together and try to leverage a little bit, but honestly not too much, and go as a package deal to either the AAC or PAC. I think the PAC would probably be a better scenario but AAC would be fine as well.

That’s how I see it anyway.

Who would have guessed our starting QB would announce he's leaving the conference before UNLV did. 🤣

Rod_the_Rebel said:

Why are we caring about this? We are in a hybrid FCS/conference USA league now

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Of course we should care regardless of what conference we are in. We are a top 25 team and have no losses. Rod-the-Rebel, please explain why we shouldn't care.

InZoneU said:

All I have to say is that in life, sometimes things have a funny way of working out for the best.

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UNLV is an exemption to that old adage

rebswin2 said:

So he didn’t get the $$ he was promised from UNLV then decided to go find $$ elsewhere for next year mid season??

Awesome teammate

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If he didn't get the money he was promised, that's one thing. If another college "poaches" him with promises of more money, the NCAA should suspend that university for the rest of the year. At this point, I have no idea of who is right.

At this point the Pac 12 isn't using Metrics.. Hawaii is one of the toughest conference mates you can have. Travel sucks, TV deals suck, school struggles with $ to invest in programs.. makes no sense to have cash partial member if your whole intent was a leaner MW...

Free Ricky White! Free the passing game!

We’ve won games at the line of scrimmage and with our defense. We will continue to do so. It’s time to rally and rise with the under promised QB that probably deserved it more all along.

Bye, Matty poo-poo! 👋