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Ryan Miller if u want recruiting to pick up a TON. Not sure about coaching ability ,but everywhere he goes they recruit at a good to great level. If u want NIL money to come in it has to be a splash hire. Maybe Miller can get players lined up and NIL money comes??? Not sure in todays day how that works. There is atleast 6 NON-Power 5 coaches that can coach their ass off ,but im not sure they can bring in the talent to get us to the TOP 25. that i would love to have. It might have to be a slow build ,but with the optics being much better year after year.
Ryan Miller is already coaching under a pretty well respected and talented coach in Jamie Dixon, in a better division and they've only been dancing 3 times in 8 years. In 8 years his recruiting classes have been 48-37-35-29-58-98-94 which is not exactly setting the world on fire and definitely trending in the wrong direction. Ryan Miller was a fine idea when we were fumbling all over ourselves post the Rice firing, but he's not exactly setting the world on fire with a lot more financial resources than he'd have here. And no head coaching experience.

If that's the quality of guy we can afford, then we're spending 500k on coaching and not worrying about winning. We need a guy who has been a head man and can build up a program. I don't think it's Ryan Miller.
 
Why feel sorry for CKK, especially, if he was the wrong hire. If someone doesn’t perform and you need to fire them, why feel sorry. If anything, feel sorry for the players and fans.
I feel really bad for him when he was gifted a job he wasn’t qualified for and will walk away with about $5 million in the bank. Darn.
 
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Ryan Miller is already coaching under a pretty well respected and talented coach in Jamie Dixon, in a better division and they've only been dancing 3 times in 8 years. In 8 years his recruiting classes have been 48-37-35-29-58-98-94 which is not exactly setting the world on fire and definitely trending in the wrong direction. Ryan Miller was a fine idea when we were fumbling all over ourselves post the Rice firing, but he's not exactly setting the world on fire with a lot more financial resources than he'd have here. And no head coaching experience.

If that's the quality of guy we can afford, then we're spending 500k on coaching and not worrying about winning. We need a guy who has been a head man and can build up a program. I don't think it's Ryan Miller.
Check your info. Ryan Miller has been at Creighton the last 3 years and they are a national power.
 
is already coaching under a pretty well respected and talented coach in Jamie Dixon, in a better division and they've only been dancing 3 times in 8 years. In 8 years his recruiting classes have been 48-37-35-29-58-98-94 which is not exactly setting the world on fire and definitely trending in the wrong direction. Ryan Miller was a fine idea when we were fumbling all over ourselves post the Rice firing, but he's not exactly setting the world on fire with a lot more financial resources than he'd have here. And no head coaching experience.

If that's the quality of guy we can afford, then we're spending 500k on coaching and not worrying about winning. We need a guy who has been a head man and can build up a program. I don't think it's Ryan Miller.
He is at Creighton the last 3 years. They are doing great recruiting wise we will see them up close and personal SOON. We need a splash hire. This program is on life support.
 
I feel really bad for him when he was gifted a job he wasn’t qualified for and will walk away with about $5 million in the bank. Darn.
Not going to lie, part of me will always have some empathy. Sure, they are pretty set with the money they make. But nobody is not trying.

And there are assistants, staff … their jobs are dependent upon success … the have families, kids … staff is trying to create a stable life in an unstable job field. Constantly moving with kids … can be tough. I’ve seen it many times, many are impacted. So while I certainly have empathy … there are much tougher situations in the world, down the street even …
 
Ryan Miller is already coaching under a pretty well respected and talented coach in Jamie Dixon, in a better division and they've only been dancing 3 times in 8 years. In 8 years his recruiting classes have been 48-37-35-29-58-98-94 which is not exactly setting the world on fire and definitely trending in the wrong direction. Ryan Miller was a fine idea when we were fumbling all over ourselves post the Rice firing, but he's not exactly setting the world on fire with a lot more financial resources than he'd have here. And no head coaching experience.

If that's the quality of guy we can afford, then we're spending 500k on coaching and not worrying about winning. We need a guy who has been a head man and can build up a program. I don't think it's Ryan Miller.
I'm in agreement. UNLV needs a veteran head coach. Not an experimental choice. Barry Odom should be the model.
 
He is at Creighton the last 3 years. They are doing great recruiting wise we will see them up close and personal SOON. We need a splash hire. This program is on life support.
Dang, thanks for the correction. Appears that the recruiting fall off coincides with him leaving. I still don't want an assistant only but I'm happy to learn when I'm wrong!
 
I'm in agreement. UNLV needs a veteran head coach. Not an experimental choice. Barry Odom should be the model.
I concur, with exception to Ryan Miller. He's been around quality HCs and an assistant for decades. He's got plenty of high level experience and he's a really good recruiter.
That said, I'm hoping we do go find the Odom type, like say a Josh Pastner..
 
I concur, with exception to Ryan Miller. He's been around quality HCs and an assistant for decades. He's got plenty of high level experience and he's a really good recruiter.
That said, I'm hoping we do go find the Odom type, like say a Josh Pastner..
Russell Turner would be a good choice as well.
 
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I concur, with exception to Ryan Miller. He's been around quality HCs and an assistant for decades. He's got plenty of high level experience and he's a really good recruiter.
That said, I'm hoping we do go find the Odom type, like say a Josh Pastner..
Pastner recently signed a lengthy contract. His buyout would most likely be prohibitive.
 
Pastner recently signed a lengthy contract. His buyout would most likely be prohibitive.
A lengthy contract doing what? He was fired from GT last season. He would be a freaking dud in my opinion. Had some success piggy backing off of Calipari but that’s it. Went to Georgia Tech and stunk it up. Stay with CKK if he’s the alternative.
 
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A lengthy contract doing what? He was fired from GT last season. He would be a freaking dud in my opinion. Had some success piggy backing off of Calipari but that’s it. Went to Georgia Tech and stunk it up. Stay with CKK if he’s the alternative.
He’d get some push. I don’t think it’d go anywhere though.
 
A lengthy contract doing what? He was fired from GT last season. He would be a freaking dud in my opinion. Had some success piggy backing off of Calipari but that’s it. Went to Georgia Tech and stunk it up. Stay with CKK if he’s the alternative.
I was identifying someone in the "Odom" typology... he had success, has been a previous D1 coach, would be hopefully hungry to prove doubters wrong, etc...didn't say he'd be my first choice just identifying a former D1 Coach that still draws attention by name
 
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I was identifying someone in the "Odom" typology... he had success, has been a previous D1 coach, would be hopefully hungry to prove doubters wrong, etc...didn't say he'd be my first choice just identifying a former D1 Coach that still draws attention by name
I agree with you that he wouldn't be my first choice but someone similar! That's why I wanted Archie Miller after he was let go by Indiana, he would of came here with very good success at Dayton and probably pull to soon at Indiana
 
The proof is in the pudding, look at football then hire the next mens basketball coach!
 
A lengthy contract doing what? He was fired from GT last season. He would be a freaking dud in my opinion. Had some success piggy backing off of Calipari but that’s it. Went to Georgia Tech and stunk it up. Stay with CKK if he’s the alternative.
Alzheimer’s moment. I was thinking Pasternak.
 
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What’s the buyout for Kruger??
Any chance we can figure out if he fake his experience or something? Honestly another Assistant coach that's drowning at a premier named program because the AD decided to do the least amount of work possible
 
Any chance we can figure out if he fake his experience or something? Honestly another Assistant coach that's drowning at a premier named program because the AD decided to do the least amount of work possible

lol He didn’t have to fake anything, the AD was too stupid and did what she was told. How she got a SEC gig is mind blowing to me
 
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UNLV fired a former player mid-season.

Should we continue the tradition and toss Kevin?

The way this game is going, maybe even up the stakes and do it mid-game?

They should have security escort him out of the building and CUT him off MID sentence in those Horrible post game conferences

Or better yet have a member of the press tell him he is fired -

that would be cool - People would watch that shit !!
 
He shouldn't have been brought back at end of last year..
Two years is too short, imo. But there were some small rumblings last year by the same people that make these things happen. But they were inconsequential because two years is really silly.

The length of time is going to be less forgiving nowadays with the portal and immediate eligibility. You can have an NCAAT with one season of recruiting/replacement. Not ideal and it may be more of a rarity, but it’s certainly within the scope of possibility.

But there was no reason for any real optimism upon his hire, though I had some, not a ton but some, based upon his toughness as a player (and high IQ) and the connection to his dad. But I was leery at the same time.

And since that point, i haven’t seen evidence that gives me confidence going forward … recruiting, identity, style of play, consistency, floor effort, ineffective offense, low effort defense, unity/chemistry …. Pointing out these obvious things, I know it makes me a hater, a bad fan, it’s the sites fault for UNLV’s failures, etc. Ok.

Listen, you have to be a blind bat not to see the writing on the wall (we certainly have those). Just play out the season as best you can and handle things professionally and move on if that’s the choice. Don’t Tina the damn thing. Give the guy a little respect and handle it properly. I know there are many that want him out right this second … it’s not like it’s a huge secret that the support isn’t there. But like last time, I’m telling you … you don’t let a guy finish out the year and handle things with a little dignity, it’s going to bite you badly. And you’ll pay for awhile. The only question is how long. Here we are eight seasons after the last program pivoting mistake midseason firing … do it against, will the recovery time be shorter? Longer? Why risk it. Makes you look like a Mickey Mouse operation. We are just off the heels of a good football hire and unexpected bowl money. Don’t torpedo any momentum with an asinine mid season firing.
 
When we hire the next coach, Harper needs to make sure NIL $$ is available. That will be almost as important as who the coach is. Between the Portal and NIL recruiting has changed more in the past 4 years than in all of College basketball's existence.
 
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Two years is too short, imo. But there were some small rumblings last year by the same people that make these things happen. But they were inconsequential because two years is really silly.

The length of time is going to be less forgiving nowadays with the portal and immediate eligibility. You can have an NCAAT with one season of recruiting/replacement. Not ideal and it may be more of a rarity, but it’s certainly within the scope of possibility.

But there was no reason for any real optimism upon his hire, though I had some, not a ton but some, based upon his toughness as a player (and high IQ) and the connection to his dad. But I was leery at the same time.

And since that point, i haven’t seen evidence that gives me confidence going forward … recruiting, identity, style of play, consistency, floor effort, ineffective offense, low effort defense, unity/chemistry …. Pointing out these obvious things, I know it makes me a hater, a bad fan, it’s the sites fault for UNLV’s failures, etc. Ok.

Listen, you have to be a blind bat not to see the writing on the wall (we certainly have those). Just play out the season as best you can and handle things professionally and move on if that’s the choice. Don’t Tina the damn thing. Give the guy a little respect and handle it properly. I know there are many that want him out right this second … it’s not like it’s a huge secret that the support isn’t there. But like last time, I’m telling you … you don’t let a guy finish out the year and handle things with a little dignity, it’s going to bite you badly. And you’ll pay for awhile. The only question is how long. Here we are eight seasons after the last program pivoting mistake midseason firing … do it against, will the recovery time be shorter? Longer? Why risk it. Makes you look like a Mickey Mouse operation. We are just off the heels of a good football hire and unexpected bowl money. Don’t torpedo any momentum with an asinine mid season firing.
If this is the case and it is, we should never hire another assistant for HC again! Many around here love to talk about the “slow build” and I have never agreed with that reasoning, it always seemed like excuses were being made for a bad hire. We have seen what a former HC can do with a perennial loser on the football side, bring in a former HC for hoops, quit playing around!
 
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