What Should Sanchez do.

[Bullmastiff 1]

Rebels get a bye week.

Sanchez has two weeks to prep for Wyoming.

His job for all intents and purposes is probably on the line...

A 1-3 start probably sinks any bowl hopes. 8 games left to win 5 and he'll be facing the top teams in conference.

With Armani struggling does he make the switch and give Oblad the start?

Does he start Armani and give him a short leash?

He's in a tough spot.

 

[RebelinWA]

I think he at least takes a half hour to dust off the old resume as a contingency.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

I think he at least takes a half hour to dust off the old resume as a contingency.

Probably.

I'm not ready to bury the season yet.

Until there is a 7 in the L column bowl hopes remain.

 

[Gator 82]

Well with 8 games remaining the team has to go 6-2 or 5-3 at a minimum and with the upcoming schedule I just dont see that happening. Give Oblad a shot and see what he can do

 

[RebelSoldat]

Bench Armani. If he doesn't, he is clueless.

 

[j. spilotro]

Rebels get a bye week.

Sanchez has two weeks to prep for Wyoming.

His job for all intents and purposes is probably on the line...

A 1-3 start probably sinks any bowl hopes. 8 games left to win 5 and he'll be facing the top teams in conference.

With Armani struggling does he make the switch and give Oblad the start?

Does he start Armani and give him a short leash?

He's in a tough spot.

Personally, I want to see what Oblad or anybody else can do in a full game, knowing they will be the starter.

But I think he probably should stick it out with Armani. He hitched his wagon awfully tight and we know Armani is capable of good games, they just don’t happen enough. I think he’s pretty much gotta sink and swim with the choices he’s made... I don’t know that any on the roster can save it anyway.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Bench Armani. If he doesn't, he is clueless.

I wish I could confidently say that there are better options on the roster....

But after watching all Spring..

I can't.

Not saying other guys are devoid of talent. Maybe Oblad can spark the offense.

I'm just not sure he fits how this offense was built. The Oline has had some protection issues as well...

If he's going to make the switch now would be the time. Wyoming has struggled against the pass this season. Then again that might be a reason to leave Armani in. Try and get him going...

I don't know..

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Well with 8 games remaining the team has to go 6-2 or 5-3 at a minimum and with the upcoming schedule I just dont see that happening. Give Oblad a shot and see what he can do

Only issue here is, if Oblad struggles then what?

Go back to Armani vs Boise State?

He's backed himself into a tight corner..

 

[willlevi]

Armani is on pace for a 1224 yard 6 td 12 int season (700 yard 8 td rushing season).
That will close out the Sam Boyd Era

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Armani is on pace for a 1224 yard 6 td 12 int season (700 yard 8 td rushing season).
That will close out the Sam Boyd Era

Yep...Not good...

Defense is on pace to replicate last years 20 sack performance..

Not good.

Getting nothing from return units again.

If you flipped Armani's TD to INT ratio the low passing yards wouldn't bother me so much.

He doesn't have to be great. Above avg in the passing game would probably be enough..

Alas...

 

[Gator 82]

Only issue here is, if Oblad struggles then what?

Go back to Armani vs Boise State?

He's backed himself into a tight corner..

That would be his only option unfortunately. Im not an Armani hater, but at this point he has to do something. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results each time is the definition of insanity.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

That would be his only option unfortunately. Im not an Armani hater, but at this point he has to do something. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results each time is the definition of insanity.

No doubt.

There are a lot of questions surrounding this team.

And I'm not sure there are any answers..

 

[rebneck]

Yep...Not good...

Defense is on pace to replicate last years 20 sack performance..

Not good.

....

Alas...

Who ends up with more sacks this year, UNLV defense (5 after 3 games) or Curtis Weaver (6 after 3 games)?

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Who ends up with more sacks this year, UNLV defense (5 after 3 games) or Curtis Weaver (6 after 3 games)?

Weaver -200

 

[VegasKC SDM]

Sanchez should go with a 2 QB system. Don't put all the pressure on one QB. Armani not effective running the ball. Take away his two biggest runs (30, 19) and he's 12 rushes for 18 yards @NW. Five sacks. Mostly because he's holding on too long/no pocket feel. He's getting a solid 2-3 seconds on most of the sacks. O-line is doing decent. I don't think he knows what he's seeing in the passing game. Paralysis by analysis combined with lack of confidence to throw beyond 5 yards of the line-of-scrimmage. For C. Williams to remain effective in the 2nd half we needed a passing game. Half our passes are so short near the line of scrimmage. They're bascially glorified run plays. Doesn't force the defense to change much. I thought NW were a little underprepared and somewhat uninspired. Our defense was pretty decent! Held NW to 5/14 on 3rd down. Forced a few punts and a turnover. They gave us a chance if the offense was any good.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Sanchez should go with a 2 QB system. Don't put all the pressure on one QB. Armani not effective running the ball. Take away his two biggest runs (30, 19) and he's 12 rushes for 18 yards @NW. Five sacks. Mostly because he's holding on too long/no pocket feel. He's getting a solid 2-3 seconds on most of the sacks. O-line is doing decent. I don't think he knows what he's seeing in the passing game. Paralysis by analysis combined with lack of confidence to throw beyond 5 yards of the line-of-scrimmage. For C. Williams to remain effective in the 2nd half we needed a passing game. Half our passes are so short near the line of scrimmage. They're bascially glorified run plays. Doesn't force the defense to change much. I thought NW were a little underprepared and somewhat uninspired. Our defense was pretty decent! Held NW to 5/14 on 3rd down. Forced a few punts and a turnover. They gave us a chance if the offense was any good.

Sacks count against rushing yardage totals I believe.

That skews his numbers a bit.

Defense played relatively well but still gave up over 200 yards on the ground again..

For Charles Williams to be as effective as possible the read option and threat of the QB keeping have to be in play. His 2nd TD run was in large part due to multiple defenders reacting to Armani.

Lex' numbers took a significant hit with Max at QB last year. While not great, Max' numbers were better throwing than Armani's and it certainly didn't open up the run game.

2 QB systems are tough to manage and often take guys out of any type of rythym.

I'm not sure a QB will flourish if they are afraid of being benched because of a bad series.

If we switch to a passing first offense, it really does risk the chance of putting the defense in the field more.


Not to mention the current pass protection issues..

I think commit to one or the other.

 

[dcut03]

If Sanchez's future wasn't on the line, I think you run Oblad. Armani hasn't changed in 3 years, it's hard to expect that he will get better. Try the future.

Problem is, Sanchez needs to win now. Oblad may not give the team the best chance to win now. He can't afford growing pains of a Freshman QB.

So adjust the playing style to fit what Armani does best. Tons of read option running. Run the Cam Newton Auburn offense Like I mentioned in the other thread. Hell, run a classic triple option. Do something else. This offense as it is being run just won't save his job.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

If Sanchez's future wasn't on the line, I think you run Oblad. Armani hasn't changed in 3 years, it's hard to expect that he will get better. Try the future.

Problem is, Sanchez needs to win now. Oblad may not give the team the best chance to win now. He can't afford growing pains of a Freshman QB.

So adjust the playing style to fit what Armani does best. Tons of read option running. Run the Cam Newton Auburn offense Like I mentioned in the other thread. Hell, run a classic triple option. Do something else. This offense as it is being run just won't save his job.

That's where I'm at on it...

 

[willlevi]

Sacks count against rushing yardage totals I believe.

That skews his numbers a bit.

Defense played relatively well but still gave up over 200 yards on the ground again..

For Charles Williams to be as effective as possible the read option and threat of the QB keeping have to be in play. His 2nd TD run was in large part due to multiple defenders reacting to Armani.

Lex' numbers took a significant hit with Max at QB last year. While not great, Max' numbers were better throwing than Armani's and it certainly didn't open up the run game.

2 QB systems are tough to manage and often take guys out of any type of rythym.

I'm not sure a QB will flourish if they are afraid of being benched because of a bad series.

If we switch to a passing first offense, it really does risk the chance of putting the defense in the field more.


Not to mention the current pass protection issues..

I think commit to one or the other.

Lexington Thomas was 5'8 170 pounds & rarely made yards after contact.
Charles Williams is 5'9 190 and actually can play through contact. I would expect Williams to be effect as a more traditional back.

Also, an effective passing game would go further towards winning than Williams per game rushing totals

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Lexington Thomas was 5'8 170 pounds & rarely made yards after contact.
Charles Williams is 5'9 190 and actually can play through contact. I would expect Williams to be effect as a more traditional back.

Also, an effective passing game would go further towards winning than Williams per game rushing totals

Lex also had phenomenal feet and was able to make the first guy miss.

Williams second TD run came on a read option where Northwestern over committed to Armani.

I'm not arguing that a better passing game won't be helpful.

But those zone read plays go away if Oblad is the starter.

And those account for a huge chunk of our big plays in the run game.

Are you confident the Rebels O-Line can win often enough if they are forced to play straight up in the run game.

If Oblad is named starter, teams are going to stack the box and challenge him to win games with his arm.


The pass protection has been a bit shaky. You willing to put the ball up 30 times a game?

Possibly putting the defense on the field more.

You're Coach Sanchez. Your six figure job is on the line...

Are you going to put the ball in Oblad's hands.

Do you really believe he gives you the best chance to win?

I'm not so sure he does.

I don't think simply because he is a better passer it means the offense just click.

Its not as easy a decision as some make it out to be..

 

[WarthogRebel]

For crying out loud.

We currently suck. What we are doing doesn't work. Why is there any discussion at all about trying something that may work?

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

For crying out loud.

We currently suck. What we are doing doesn't work. Why is there any discussion at all about trying something that may work?

What are you suggesting?

Oblad start?

Ok cool.

I'm all for it.

But..

He did absolutely nothing the entire Spring to separate himself from other QBs.

You could make an argument that Grayson might have edged him during fall or at the very least held his own.

Armani is flawed as a passer. No doubt. This staff is trying to make him something he is not.

Rebs should rely heavily on the run game. Limit Armani's throws. When they do throw, occasionally stretch the field to keep teams honest..

 

[Pistol Pete 1]

Rebels get a bye week.

Sanchez has two weeks to prep for Wyoming.

His job for all intents and purposes is probably on the line...

A 1-3 start probably sinks any bowl hopes. 8 games left to win 5 and he'll be facing the top teams in conference.

With Armani struggling does he make the switch and give Oblad the start?

Does he start Armani and give him a short leash?

He's in a tough spot.

I already know what CTS is going to do. I have watched The Reb Zone and have the inside scoop and I will share it with you now.

Armani looked comfortable throwing the ball. He completed 16-25 passes and he ran the ball well. Just have to clean up a few miscues. We are a very good football team and there isn’t a team on our schedule we can’t beat.

With statements like that emanating from CTS I can guarantee you that Armani has solidified his grip on the starting job at QB both now and into the foreseeable future. As I said in another thread “CTS is gonna ride Armani to a bowl game or outta town”. He sees something that we novices are apparently missing.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

I already know what CTS is going to do. I have watched The Reb Zone and have the inside scoop and I will share it with you now.

Armani looked comfortable throwing the ball. He completed 16-25 passes and he ran the ball well. Just have to clean up a few miscues. We are a very good football team and there isn’t a team on our schedule we can’t beat.

With statements like that emanating from CTS I can guarantee you that Armani has solidified his grip on the starting job at QB both now and into the foreseeable future. As I said in another thread “CTS is gonna ride Armani to a bowl game or outta town”. He sees something that we novices are apparently missing.

He sounds like a guy trying to convince himself...

To clarify my stance on Oblad.

I like him. I don't like him for how the offense is constructed right now.

I don't like the idea of throwing a red shirt freshman on the field to make his first career start vs Boise State. Then go on the road vs Vandy and Fresno and then face a Rocky Long defense...

That's a tough stretch for any QB...

What CTS sees is this. Upside.

I know he has consistently shown he struggles with accuracy.

But that Reno game is what we all thought we would get out of Armani this year. Or at least close to that.

There isn't a QB on this roster that could replicate thay performance.

That Armani is better then what any other QB on this roster could produce. And its not close.

Unfortunately that Armani doesn't show up enough..

My guess is, Oblad just hasn't shown enough in practice to make Sanchez pull the trigger.

 

[BornRebelRed]

He sounds like a guy trying to convince himself...

To clarify my stance on Oblad.

I like him. I don't like him for how the offense is constructed right now.

I don't like the idea of throwing a red shirt freshman on the field to make his first career start vs Boise State. Then go on the road vs Vandy and Fresno and then face a Rocky Long defense...

That's a tough stretch for any QB...

What CTS sees is this. Upside.

I know he has consistently shown he struggles with accuracy.

But that Reno game is what we all thought we would get out of Armani this year. Or at least close to that.

There isn't a QB on this roster that could replicate thay performance.

That Armani is better then what any other QB on this roster could produce. And its not close.

Unfortunately that Armani doesn't show up enough..

My guess is, Oblad just hasn't shown enough in practice to make Sanchez pull the trigger.

Breaking up is hard to do!

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Breaking up is hard to do!

Pretty much...

Its not an enviable spot.

 

[rorebel24]

1) Dust up resume
2) Sign up Linked In
3) Make sure Lorenzo still on speed dial
4) Take Athletic Director classes at CSN

 

[tomrut]

Part of the problem is the coaches that already know this team and the way Armani is they can put 8 in the box every play cause even if Armani does throw deep it will be overthrown so they just have to stop the run. If we have a qb that could complete a 10-15 yard pass it forces less people in the box giving Williams more room to run and keeps the receivers at least somewhat engaged if a catchable ball is thrown

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Part of the problem is the coaches that already know this team and the way Armani is they can put 8 in the box every play cause even if Armani does throw deep it will be overthrown so they just have to stop the run. If we have a qb that could complete a 10-15 yard pass it forces less people in the box giving Williams more room to run and keeps the receivers at least somewhat engaged if a catchable ball is thrown

Army and Air Force run against 8 man fronts with zero threat of a passing game all the time.

I'm not suggesting UNLV move to that type of offense, but if Armani is going to remain the starter they need to rely more heavily on the run.

The Rebels should not run tempo. They should try and shorten games and keep the defense off the field.

Instead, it feels like this staff is bound and determined to make Armani the type of QB that can lead a more balanced offense. I don't think this plays to his or the teams strengths.



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[RebelinWA]

I do think Sanchez would make a half decent assistant AD, at least at UNLV.

 

[VegasKC SDM]

I already know what CTS is going to do. I have watched The Reb Zone and have the inside scoop and I will share it with you now.

Armani looked comfortable throwing the ball. He completed 16-25 passes and he ran the ball well. Just have to clean up a few miscues. We are a very good football team and there isn’t a team on our schedule we can’t beat.

With statements like that emanating from CTS I can guarantee you that Armani has solidified his grip on the starting job at QB both now and into the foreseeable future. As I said in another thread “CTS is gonna ride Armani to a bowl game or outta town”. He sees something that we novices are apparently missing.

Da Nile isn't just a river in Egypt!

 

[dcut03]

Army and Air Force run against 8 man fronts with zero threat of a passing game all the time.

I'm not suggesting UNLV move to that type of offense, but if Armani is going to remain the starter they need to rely more heavily on the run.

The Rebels should not run tempo. They should try and shorten games and keep the defense off the field.

Instead, it feels like this staff is bound and determined to make Armani the type of QB that can lead a more balanced offense. I don't think this plays to his or the teams strengths.



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A seasoned, and disciplined triple option team, especially from a military academy is a little bit different scenario. They have so many wrinkles, and a single running play still has several possible ball carriers that you have to key on. Plus they have been doing it forever.

I have always felt that our offense, at least as it has been the Sanchez era needs the pass threat to be fully effective.

We mostly have 2 players to key on, and you only get fooled with the read option so many times. And of course we have been hesitant to use the read option because of Armani's health.

So I get why they want Armani to throw. The problem is that he can't.

I agree they have to slow games down, but they need more wrinkles. There are only so many things that we do effectively. Which is why that stat about first time vs subsequent meetings with facing a coach is happening. We are getting figured out, pretty easily and have nothing to counter with.

How to do that? Have to get creative. Think outside the box. Hell how about the wildcat? Need to get Collins as a true running threat out of the back field.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

A seasoned, and disciplined triple option team, especially from a military academy is a little bit different scenario. They have so many wrinkles, and a single running play still has several possible ball carriers that you have to key on. Plus they have been doing it forever.

I have always felt that our offense, at least as it has been the Sanchez era needs the pass threat to be fully effective.

We mostly have 2 players to key on, and you only get fooled with the read option so many times. And of course we have been hesitant to use the read option because of Armani's health.

So I get why they want Armani to throw. The problem is that he can't.

I agree they have to slow games down, but they need more wrinkles. There are only so many things that we do effectively. Which is why that stat about first time vs subsequent meetings with facing a coach is happening. We are getting figured out, pretty easily and have nothing to counter with.

How to do that? Have to get creative. Think outside the box. Hell how about the wildcat? Need to get Collins as a true running threat out of the back field.

Its not the offense. Its the guy they have trying to run the offense.

Armani would kill in UNMs spread option attack.

 

[bcvegaspt]

#HireBobDavie !!!!!

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

A seasoned, and disciplined triple option team, especially from a military academy is a little bit different scenario. They have so many wrinkles, and a single running play still has several possible ball carriers that you have to key on. Plus they have been doing it forever.

I have always felt that our offense, at least as it has been the Sanchez era needs the pass threat to be fully effective.

We mostly have 2 players to key on, and you only get fooled with the read option so many times. And of course we have been hesitant to use the read option because of Armani's health.

So I get why they want Armani to throw. The problem is that he can't.

I agree they have to slow games down, but they need more wrinkles. There are only so many things that we do effectively. Which is why that stat about first time vs subsequent meetings with facing a coach is happening. We are getting figured out, pretty easily and have nothing to counter with.

How to do that? Have to get creative. Think outside the box. Hell how about the wildcat? Need to get Collins as a true running threat out of the back field.

Good article about the Army offense.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/coll...re-to-worry-about-than-just-the-triple-option

This can be done out of the pistol/shotgun as well.

I'm not saying UNLV run it.

But if Armani is the QB the offense needs to be more run heavy.

 

[rorebel24]

Jim Harbaugh will need a job soon.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Jim Harbaugh will need a job soon.

No kidding..

 

[c-reb-run]

Jim Harbaugh will need a job soon.

I seriously had the same thought today. Wonder what it would cost? His pride probably costs more to him that what we can afford though.

 

[RebelSaint702]

I have a better chance at winning the Oregon lottery this year than Harbaugh coming to coach the Rebels.

But.... if I do win the lottery I will donate half towards the cause! Lol

 

[j. spilotro]

I have a better chance at winning the Oregon lottery this year than Harbaugh coming to coach the Rebels.

But.... if I do win the lottery I will donate half towards the cause! Lol

If I won the lottery, I wouldn't donate a cent. They'd use the money to change the name, the mascot and pay back a bunch of loans they've yet to make good on.