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It’s not likely to happen given Purdue’s schedule this upcoming season. If the expectations are that Barry will turn it around like Cignetti, people will be in for a rude awakening. I see maybe 3 wins on that schedule and if Purdue cannot win the first couple games, they are in deep doo doo.
He will probably start 2-0, what a bullshit non-conference slate that is. Then it gets real. Can he beat Minny NW or Rutgers? Maybe. Then maybe he has a decent year at like 6-6 or something like that.
 
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He aint winning shit, Scrub. What he should have done is begging Brennan Marion to join him at Purdue. Brennan Marion won games for UNLV and BO.
Disagree.. Barry faking he was calling a TO as Brennan called the play as clock expired and Hajj threw a bubble screen to Jet was a masterpiece...
 
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You’re too focused on the dollar bro.

Well I seem to remember people saying Odom wouldn't leave for a middling P4 job when he could guide UNLV to potential CFP births every year...That money wasn't everything etc etc.

Sounded plausible until 6 million per year showed up.

Never discount generational wealth.

Imagine having the ability to hand all of your kids a home with no mortgage and starting their adult lifevwith no college debt. That is a massive head start.

That's not the type of money you look at and say 'meh'.

Odom likely will struggle to get Purdue turned around. But it will hardly derail his career. He won't be out of football long or without work.

Even if he fails, he lands another DC job with millions in the bank and continuing to do something he loves which is be around football.

Even if he fails at Purdue he's a young enough guy his work at UNLV would get him another G6 job at some point.

Love to hear how that's a sad ending to his story..
 
One of the most interesting phenomenons to me is how hard coaches go after their previous players and hurt the school they used to coach. Now I completely understand wanting those familiar with your system, but it’s like you’re screwing your previous school twice.
 
Well I seem to remember people saying Odom wouldn't leave for a middling P4 job when he could guide UNLV to potential CFP births every year...That money wasn't everything etc etc.

Sounded plausible until 6 million per year showed up.

Never discount generational wealth.

Imagine having the ability to hand all of your kids a home with no mortgage and starting their adult lifevwith no college debt. That is a massive head start.

That's not the type of money you look at and say 'meh'.

Odom likely will struggle to get Purdue turned around. But it will hardly derail his career. He won't be out of football long or without work.

Even if he fails, he lands another DC job with millions in the bank and continuing to do something he loves which is be around football.

Even if he fails at Purdue he's a young enough guy his work at UNLV would get him another G6 job at some point.

Love to hear how that's a sad ending to his story..
I’m not going to agree with you - I don’t need an essay every time
 
The entitlement to think I would read that entire thing. I mean seriously. YOU are inconsequential
And yet you continue to address him directly. Your words and your actions don't seem to align. If you don't like him, ignore him and move on. The performative forum chest thumping isn't as big a flex as you think it is.
 
Well I seem to remember people saying Odom wouldn't leave for a middling P4 job when he could guide UNLV to potential CFP births every year...That money wasn't everything etc etc.

Sounded plausible until 6 million per year showed up.

Never discount generational wealth.

Imagine having the ability to hand all of your kids a home with no mortgage and starting their adult lifevwith no college debt. That is a massive head start.

That's not the type of money you look at and say 'meh'.

Odom likely will struggle to get Purdue turned around. But it will hardly derail his career. He won't be out of football long or without work.

Even if he fails, he lands another DC job with millions in the bank and continuing to do something he loves which is be around football.

Even if he fails at Purdue he's a young enough guy his work at UNLV would get him another G6 job at some point.

Love to hear how that's a sad ending to his story..
It’s not a giant gap, where Odom is making millions more. His take home pay is probably 3.7 million at Purdue after taxes etc. Mullen is making 2.2 or 2.5 at unlv (after taxes etc).

Generational? Hardly.
 
It’s not a giant gap, where Odom is making millions more. His take home pay is probably 3.7 million at Purdue after taxes etc. Mullen is making 2.2 or 2.5 at unlv (after taxes etc).

Generational? Hardly.
If you have an extra $1.2m laying around, happy to accept the donation. I couldn’t say no to it. It might even be enough to cover my grad loans.
 
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Well I seem to remember people saying Odom wouldn't leave for a middling P4 job when he could guide UNLV to potential CFP births every year...That money wasn't everything etc etc.

Sounded plausible until 6 million per year showed up.

Never discount generational wealth.

Imagine having the ability to hand all of your kids a home with no mortgage and starting their adult lifevwith no college debt. That is a massive head start.

That's not the type of money you look at and say 'meh'.

Odom likely will struggle to get Purdue turned around. But it will hardly derail his career. He won't be out of football long or without work.

Even if he fails, he lands another DC job with millions in the bank and continuing to do something he loves which is be around football.

Even if he fails at Purdue he's a young enough guy his work at UNLV would get him another G6 job at some point.

Love to hear how that's a sad ending to his story..
Hes the HC at a P4 university... his kid is already on scholarship I believe at Purdue, his other children can attend for free as well. with his salary at UNLV hed have been able to buy them a house had he wanted too..
 
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It’s not a giant gap, where Odom is making millions more. His take home pay is probably 3.7 million at Purdue after taxes etc. Mullen is making 2.2 or 2.5 at unlv (after taxes etc).

Generational? Hardly.

So roughly 1.5 million more per year.

If he lives off just what he made at UNLV. And banks that 1.5 'residual income' over 5 years. That's 7.5 million dollars.

7.5 million in the bank over 10 years at a modest 5% interest goes to 12 million dollars.

Having the ability to potentially provide your children a home with no mortgage and no college debt isn't generational wealth? How many people now get that head start, If it's not it's at the minimum transformational wealth.

Worth the risk in my mind. Even if he fails at Purdue he won't be out of football long. May not be a HC again. But we'll easily land a DC job somewhere and continue to collect checks doing what he enjoys.

He could fund buying a small business. Purchase subdivision homes put his kids in charge. Apartments etc. Here son run these Apartments for me.

Franchise a couple fast food restraunts. Hand them down. Generational.
 
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Hes the HC at a P4 university... his kid is already on scholarship I believe at Purdue, his other children can attend for free as well. with his salary at UNLV hed have been able to buy them a house had he wanted too..

I'm aware of that.

Now it's more money.

Which is why he left.

He did exactly what some folks on here were so sure he wouldn't do. Over and over it was.

'Why would he leave UNLV for a mid P4 job'

Money

'But he could probably make the CFP easier at UNLV'

Money.

'He'll fail at Purdue'

Money.

Never underestimate it.
 
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I'm aware of that.

Now it's more money.

Which is why he left.

He did exactly what some folks on here were so sure he wouldn't do. Over and over it was.

'Why would he leave UNLV for a mid P4 job'

Money

'But he could probably make the CFP easier at UNLV'

Money.

'He'll fail at Purdue'

Money.

Never underestimate it.

Tom Cruise GIF by Jerology
 
I'm aware of that.

Now it's more money.

Which is why he left.

He did exactly what some folks on here were so sure he wouldn't do. Over and over it was.

'Why would he leave UNLV for a mid P4 job'

Money

'But he could probably make the CFP easier at UNLV'

Money.

'He'll fail at Purdue'

Money.

Never underestimate it.
Oh sure, Im simply saying he flat out said in interviews he was never a "paycheck" chaser and then he flat out goes and chases a paycheck in the middle of a possible CFP run...
 
Money.

Never underestimate it.
And if we're going to play the 'after taxes' game, then you most certainly have to include the 'cost-of-living' game, West Lafayette is about 22% lower cost of living INCLUDING income taxes. So that 1.5 million is really 1.8 million a year--of course that's also assuming that he's just paying the full tax burden and not acting like every other millionaire as well. Not to mention that he gets a super sweet 75% of that total if he's terminated without cause, and that his buyout if he does well enough to step up to the next level of P4 and is only 3 million bucks. I was amazed at how much further my dollar went here in Indiana from Vegas, and I live in Indy which is about 6% more expensive than West Lafayette.

The money is enough for most people to make that switch, but he's also got a fantastic coach-weighted contract, he's closer to the area of the country where he's from and his friends and family and he gets that sweet sweet B1G revenue sharing which should make recruiting a little easier.. If someone offered me a 50% raise to move back to Vegas and be in an employment position where I had real leverage I would have to consider it--and I ain't making 7 figures.
 
So roughly 1.5 million more per year.

If he lives off just what he made at UNLV. And banks that 1.5 'residual income' over 5 years. That's 7.5 million dollars.

7.5 million in the bank over 10 years at a modest 5% interest goes to 12 million dollars.

Having the ability to potentially provide your children a home with no mortgage and no college debt isn't generational wealth? How many people now get that head start, If it's not it's at the minimum transformational wealth.

Worth the risk in my mind. Even if he fails at Purdue he won't be out of football long. May not be a HC again. But we'll easily land a DC job somewhere and continue to collect checks doing what he enjoys.

He could fund buying a small business. Purchase subdivision homes put his kids in charge. Apartments etc. Here son run these Apartments for me.

Franchise a couple fast food restraunts. Hand them down. Generational.
Generational wealth is having financial resources that lasts several generations. Generational wealth is a very tough thing to achieve, I recall that the stats show that wealth rarely goes past the 3rd generation.

There have been studies and psychoanalysis on why it is tough (kids grow up with major issues etc.). It’s not a sure thing.

It’s possible and it’s also possible at unlv to have the financial means to take care of your family and their family. If Odom is smart with the money and has solid financial support system that helps invest etc, then yes. But making millions, your margin for error is not high, one bad investment and it could sink you.

Again, the difference in take home pay is not significant. You can achieve the same financial goals on both salaries.


So knowing that, he didn’t leave because of money. He left because he didn’t like Las Vegas long term, and wanted back to his Midwest roots. Not all that different than TJO.
 
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And if we're going to play the 'after taxes' game, then you most certainly have to include the 'cost-of-living' game, West Lafayette is about 22% lower cost of living INCLUDING income taxes. So that 1.5 million is really 1.8 million a year--of course that's also assuming that he's just paying the full tax burden and not acting like every other millionaire as well. Not to mention that he gets a super sweet 75% of that total if he's terminated without cause, and that his buyout if he does well enough to step up to the next level of P4 and is only 3 million bucks. I was amazed at how much further my dollar went here in Indiana from Vegas, and I live in Indy which is about 6% more expensive than West Lafayette.

The money is enough for most people to make that switch, but he's also got a fantastic coach-weighted contract, he's closer to the area of the country where he's from and his friends and family and he gets that sweet sweet B1G revenue sharing which should make recruiting a little easier.. If someone offered me a 50% raise to move back to Vegas and be in an employment position where I had real leverage I would have to consider it--and I ain't making 7 figures.
Exactly!

Nobody can blame him for taking the job there, too much money on the table.

The only problem I had with Odom was that last week or so on the job. We were in a championship game against a team we have not beat in forever and without our OC?

He bailed early, like Cheeseburger did in basketball, that was the issue I had with him!

It’s how he left not that he left for more money, anyone of us would have done the same!
 
And yet you continue to address him directly. Your words and your actions don't seem to align. If you don't like him, ignore him and move on. The performative forum chest thumping isn't as big a flex as you think it is.
Good lord now we’re back to “I’m a giant pussy so I’ll ignore”
 
Between the sensitive women on here typing essays because of the need to self validate, and the betas saying to ignore….you wonder why it’s a dying forum.
 
Oh sure, Im simply saying he flat out said in interviews he was never a "paycheck" chaser and then he flat out goes and chases a paycheck in the middle of a possible CFP run...

Yep.

A lot of people would say that. A lot of people might actually mean it at the time they say it. I think Odom probably meant it when he said it. Then Purdue flashed a check he didn't envision. And it became hard to justify not taking it.
 
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All I'm saying is saying stuff like you don't matter to me as you reply over and over again to homeboys posts seems like an incongruity. I don't think that makes you a giant pussy on its own.
I don’t know how else to explain that I’m tired of the people on here that think their response is so needed and insightful, that they’ll respond to a quick message with a multi- paragraph informative showcasing their intelligence. It’s constant. It’s total narcissism. To top it off by responding that my response is inconsequential, and then to defend by saying they are in fact consequential is surreal to witness. @Bullmastiff 1 I’m talkin to you buddy. This isn’t chest pumping….this is calling out overinflated personalities
 
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All I'm saying is saying stuff like you don't matter to me as you reply over and over again to homeboys posts seems like an incongruity. I don't think that makes you a giant pussy on its own.

I don't know how anybody would come to that conclusion from your post. Or think you were suggesting that.
 
You all on average like what I say. The years on here and the like-to-comment ratio are there to go check. I like what most of you say most of the time……but can we all stop with the one upsmanship and the holier than thou shit? I help propagate it and I’ve been toxic….I’ll be the first to stop.
 
I don’t know how else to explain that I’m tired of the people on here that think their response is so needed and insightful, that they’ll respond to a quick message with a multi- paragraph informative showcasing their intelligence. It’s constant. It’s total narcissism. To top it off by responding that my response is inconsequential, and then to defend by saying they are in fact consequential is surreal to witness. @Bullmastiff 1 I’m talkin to you buddy. This isn’t chest pumping….this is calling out overinflated personalities
I can respect that. You're not pretending like it doesn't matter to you when it clearly does. Which is probably why you thought ignoring him would make you feel like a big pussy. I'm always around if you hate people that write novels if you get bored scrapping with Bull.
 
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I don’t know how else to explain that I’m tired of the people on here that think their response is so needed and insightful, that they’ll respond to a quick message with a multi- paragraph informative showcasing their intelligence. It’s constant. It’s total narcissism. To top it off by responding that my response is inconsequential, and then to defend by saying they are in fact consequential is surreal to witness. @Bullmastiff 1 I’m talkin to you buddy. This isn’t chest pumping….this is calling out overinflated personalities

I don't think I'm right about everything. I readily admit when I've been wrong. I've told numerous posters that after a discussion. There are any number of posters on here that I engage with and sometimes we agree and sometimes we don't. Even those I disagree with frequently I value their perspective.

You also misread what I said.

I said whether you agree with me or not is inconsequential. I didn't say you were inconsequential or that your post was inconsequential.

Me saying I'm consequential is ball busting/joke.
 
Generational wealth is having financial resources that lasts several generations. Generational wealth is a very tough thing to achieve, I recall that the stats show that wealth rarely goes past the 3rd generation.

There have been studies and psychoanalysis on why it is tough (kids grow up with major issues etc.). It’s not a sure thing.

It’s possible and it’s also possible at unlv to have the financial means to take care of your family and their family. If Odom is smart with the money and has solid financial support system that helps invest etc, then yes. But making millions, your margin for error is not high, one bad investment and it could sink you.

Again, the difference in take home pay is not significant. You can achieve the same financial goals on both salaries.


So knowing that, he didn’t leave because of money. He left because he didn’t like Las Vegas long term, and wanted back to his Midwest roots. Not all that different than TJO.

I agree with the bottom part about the fit/Midwest roots coming into play. I'm sure it played a role.

But if I'm in a position to where my kids could be handed multiple rental properties or franchise opportunities, that's money/investments that can be handed down to their kids potentially. I view that as generational.

You view it differently. Totally understandable.

I just don't think people should ever underestimate the sway money has on others. Even if it doesn't seem like that much more.
 
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And if we're going to play the 'after taxes' game, then you most certainly have to include the 'cost-of-living' game, West Lafayette is about 22% lower cost of living INCLUDING income taxes. So that 1.5 million is really 1.8 million a year--of course that's also assuming that he's just paying the full tax burden and not acting like every other millionaire as well. Not to mention that he gets a super sweet 75% of that total if he's terminated without cause, and that his buyout if he does well enough to step up to the next level of P4 and is only 3 million bucks. I was amazed at how much further my dollar went here in Indiana from Vegas, and I live in Indy which is about 6% more expensive than West Lafayette.

The money is enough for most people to make that switch, but he's also got a fantastic coach-weighted contract, he's closer to the area of the country where he's from and his friends and family and he gets that sweet sweet B1G revenue sharing which should make recruiting a little easier.. If someone offered me a 50% raise to move back to Vegas and be in an employment position where I had real leverage I would have to consider it--and I ain't making 7 figures.
You can't have it both ways. You can't say that he will be able to save the money for future use, and then mention how the cost of living is 22% lower as a justification to increase the difference between the value of the contracts unless he is going to spend 100% of what he makes every year. Most of the cost to live in Indiana are very similar to Las Vegas, with the exception of medical which is a lot more expensive in Indiana due to a lot of issues including a major issues with a shortage of doctors, and Las Vegas being almost twice as expensive to purchase a home. The issue is while it is far more expensive to purchase a home in Las Vegas, you will also get a much greater return on your house when you sell the home.
 
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You can't say that he will be able to save the money for future use, and then mention how the cost of living is 22% lower as a justification to increase the difference between the value of the contracts unless he is going to spend 100% of what he makes every year.
I think that's a flaw in my reasoning, you're probably right there. The difference after you figure housing, normal expenses is probably much closer to 100k a year unless BO balls harder than I think. Now if you invest in things like property and franchises THEN your money will go much further but that's not what I said.


Most of the cost to live in Indiana are very similar to Las Vegas, with the exception of medical which is a lot more expensive in Indiana due to a lot of issues including a major issues with a shortage of doctors,
As someone who lived in Indiana now for more than a decade after moving from Vegas I can anecdotally completely disagree. Even after you factor in state, county, and property taxes my dollar goes much further here than it ever did in vegas adjusting for inflation.
The issue is while it is far more expensive to purchase a home in Las Vegas, you will also get a much greater return on your house when you sell the home.
Based on median home values, the West Lafayette market is up 6.0% over the last year, while Vegas is only up 1.9%. So you'd have to purchase a home 300% in value to get the same increase. And if you paid more for your home you'll have to pay more in taxes and a higher relative realtor fee meaning the profit in the West Lafayette property will almost assuredly be more. Just as I was wrong before about oversimplifying the cost of living, I think you're grossly oversimplifying how making money off property works.
 
You all on average like what I say. The years on here and the like-to-comment ratio are there to go check. I like what most of you say most of the time……but can we all stop with the one upsmanship and the holier than thou shit? I help propagate it and I’ve been toxic….I’ll be the first to stop.

Peace and blessings be upon you.
 
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