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Ricky White at the Combine

Anyone watch? I had to work so didn’t see it. I did find that he ran a 4.61 40. Kinda slow, isn't it?
It’s definitely concerning. He’ll probably retest the 40 during the UNLV pro day. He’s faster than that 4.6 time. He did have a great set of skill drills today though. He showed good positioning, and soft hands. He caught everything.
 
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There was also content showing him jukingbthe DBs numerous times during the combine. Its his ability to change directions and accelerate quickly that make him so hard to cover, not the top end speed
That's what made DeJesus so dangerous. He was more quick than he was fast. But the change of direction was effortless and instantaneous. Unfortunately for DeJesus and White, neither of them were physical enough to beat double coverage, or hang with a DB that was being physical.

In White's case, he'll end up on an air raid/ spread team and be fine. He has enough film out there that someone is going to take a shot with him. His route running was fantastic during the combine. He is much more of a finesse guy than a punch them in the face type of guy. Not saying that White isn't willing to throw down, but that's not what is going to make him money.
 
Ricky has a few things going against him.
A bit of a tweener. Not great top end speed. He has good, not great size. If anything he is a bit undersized for the NFL.
and He has had issues with drops at times.

But he does have production and his special teams superpower will get him in the NFL, though I am not sure if he does any better than a day 3 pick.

CBS has him at 19th, ESPN has him at 25th.

Surprised that Royals from USU is raked so far ahead, and I am surprised that Ricky is raked ahead of Nash from SJSU in both sites as well.
 
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Ricky has a few things going against him.
A bit of a tweener. Not great top end speed. He has good, not great size. If anything he is a bit undersized for the NFL.
and He has had issues with drops at times.

But he does have production and his special teams superpower will get him in the NFL, though I am not sure if he does any better than a day 3 pick.

CBS has him at 19th, ESPN has him at 25th.

Surprised that Royals from USU is raked so far ahead, and I am surprised that Ricky is raked ahead of Nash from SJSU in both sites as well.
100% right. For context, Travis Kelce ran the same 40 time at 6’5, 250. I think the catch drills definitely helped him at the combine. Hopefully someone will look at his special teams film and take him on that alone.

Seeing Ricky White's numbers reminds me of Cooper Kupp. Lots of intangibles and production; but going through his combine drill numbers alone, he looked average. But being smart enough to make a play at the right place, at the right time counts for something. Sometimes its not about being the strongest gym warrior in the room.

The person who really won was Jackson Woodard. I saw a lot of reports about him absolutely smashing the interviews. There were a lot of comments about his leadership, bearing, and poise. He might not have been the most athletic guy at the combine, but he certainly made a case for why he should be drafted.
 
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Ricky has a few things going against him.
A bit of a tweener. Not great top end speed. He has good, not great size. If anything he is a bit undersized for the NFL.
and He has had issues with drops at times.

But he does have production and his special teams superpower will get him in the NFL, though I am not sure if he does any better than a day 3 pick.

CBS has him at 19th, ESPN has him at 25th.

Surprised that Royals from USU is raked so far ahead, and I am surprised that Ricky is raked ahead of Nash from SJSU in both sites as well.
They both have him first round?? No way.
 
I could be in the minority but the combine is dumb AF. You already got all the tape you need on every guy actually, you know...playing football. Every program already has all the measurables on their players that are accessible to every NFL GM.
 
100% right. For context, Travis Kelce ran the same 40 time at 6’5, 250. I think the catch drills definitely helped him at the combine. Hopefully someone will look at his special teams film and take him on that alone.

Seeing Ricky White's numbers reminds me of Cooper Kupp. Lots of intangibles and production; but going through his combine drill numbers alone, he looked average. But being smart enough to make a play at the right place, at the right time counts for something. Sometimes its not about being the strongest gym warrior in the room.

The person who really won was Jackson Woodard. I saw a lot of reports about him absolutely smashing the interviews. There were a lot of comments about his leadership, bearing, and poise. He might not have been the most athletic guy at the combine, but he certainly made a case for why he should be drafted.
Idk.. I read an article that had Woodard as a "loser" at the combine because his speed in the lateral movement drills was lacking and they felt it would impact his ability to drop into coverage sideline to sideline.
 
I could be in the minority but the combine is dumb AF. You already got all the tape you need on every guy actually, you know...playing football. Every program already has all the measurables on their players that are accessible to every NFL GM.
It is funny how many times a player shoots up the draft board simply because of his combine work only to have careers that scream that was a mistake. Darius Heyward-Bey, Jamarcus Russell, Tony Mandarich, Tim Tebow...who was the white QB from Arkansas who got drafted as either an WR or TE because of how athletic he was?
 
They both have him first round?? No way.
That's the 19th WR, no the 19th overall--but most nerd boards have him in the 24-29. His big board rankings are somewhere between 160 and 190 which is a Day 3 selection.

His combine numbers are super underwhelming. He's not n the top 25 for WRs at 40 or 10 yard split, tied for 19th in vertical, 20th in broad jump, He needs some good numbers in the 20 yard shuttle, 3 cone drill, and bench (if he does them) if he can show elite change of pace it will take some of dulling efect on his lack of long and short speed.

There are plenty of successful NFL receivers that ran above a 4.5, Davante Adams, Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Bolden, Jerry Rice, Antonio Brown, Michael Thomas, Cooper Kupp and more. The problem for Ricky is that those guys were either super-elite route runners, or big, physical combat catch guys. RWIII is a very good route runner, but not elite, and he had problems with people getting physical with him. I think unless he can trim that 40 time down during his pro day to closer to 4.5 he most likely isn't going get drafted before the late 6th round at best.
 
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It is funny how many times a player shoots up the draft board simply because of his combine work only to have careers that scream that was a mistake. Darius Heyward-Bey, Jamarcus Russell, Tony Mandarich, Tim Tebow...who was the white QB from Arkansas who got drafted as either an WR or TE because of how athletic he was?
Yeah like every Raider draft pick lmao.

On the flip side of all of it, Armani Rogers was never drafted and pulled of 2-3 years in the NFL as a TE. Quick check and he's still on the Bills' roster.
 
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That's the 19th WR, no the 19th overall--but most nerd boards have him in the 24-29. His big board rankings are somewhere between 160 and 190 which is a Day 3 selection.

His combine numbers are super underwhelming. He's in the top 25 for WRs at 40 or 10 yard split, tied for 19th in vertical, 20th in broad jump, He needs some good numbers in the 20 yard shuttle, 3 cone drill, and bench (if he does them) if he can show elite change of pace it will take some of dulling efect on his lack of long and short speed.

There are plenty of successful NFL receivers that ran above a 4.5, Davante Adams, Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Bolden, Jerry Rice, Antonio Brown, Michael Thomas, Cooper Kupp and more. The problem for Ricky is that those guys were either super-elite route runners, or big, physical combat catch guys. RWIII is a very good route runner, but not elite, and he had problems with people getting physical with him. I think unless he can trim that 40 time down during his pro day to closer to 4.5 he most likely isn't going get drafted before the late 6th round at best.
LOL ok I was going to say when did this happen? I think he looks like a 5th round pick to me.
 
Yeah like every Raider draft pick lmao.

On the flip side of all of it, Armani Rogers was never drafted and pulled of 2-3 years in the NFL as a TE. Quick check and he's still on the Bills' roster.
Yeah that was Al Davis he loved the athletic players. That Heyward-Dey pick was his and I believe the last one he had input on. Knew that would be a bust when they said he had elite speed but suspect hands. Just what you want from your receiver.
 
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That's the 19th WR, no the 19th overall--but most nerd boards have him in the 24-29. His big board rankings are somewhere between 160 and 190 which is a Day 3 selection.

His combine numbers are super underwhelming. He's in the top 25 for WRs at 40 or 10 yard split, tied for 19th in vertical, 20th in broad jump, He needs some good numbers in the 20 yard shuttle, 3 cone drill, and bench (if he does them) if he can show elite change of pace it will take some of dulling efect on his lack of long and short speed.

There are plenty of successful NFL receivers that ran above a 4.5, Davante Adams, Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Bolden, Jerry Rice, Antonio Brown, Michael Thomas, Cooper Kupp and more. The problem for Ricky is that those guys were either super-elite route runners, or big, physical combat catch guys. RWIII is a very good route runner, but not elite, and he had problems with people getting physical with him. I think unless he can trim that 40 time down during his pro day to closer to 4.5 he most likely isn't going get drafted before the late 6th round at best.
Thank you, yes I meant 19th and 25th ranked WR. Not projected draft position.
 
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LOL ok I was going to say when did this happen? I think he looks like a 5th round pick to me.
Yeah, Great Rebel, good college football WR, but because of the combination of QB play and attention he received due to lack of a really good true second option, his stats took a hit which is really the only way a G5 WR will show up. His intangibles like playing ST is what will keep him on NFL rosters. The other 3 big MWC WRs scored higher than him per the NFL combine results, but I think his ST abilities keep him on rosters longer than where he gets drafted might.
 
Idk.. I read an article that had Woodard as a "loser" at the combine because his speed in the lateral movement drills was lacking and they felt it would impact his ability to drop into coverage sideline to sideline.
No one shuffles to get to the sideline. In game, one shuffles a couple of steps at most before actually running to get to where they need to be.
 
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