MW vs PAC viewership chart

[Bullmastiff 1]

UNLV has a nice enough stadium that I think they can still get mid level teams like Iowa State, Kansas, Vandy, Virginia Tech, etc.. for home and home games. Also can continue to get teams like Arizona State, UCLA, California, etc.. who really have no legit chance at the college playoffs.

I think you're selling ASU a bit short. That coach is really good.

But to your point if I'm a P4 school I'm not taking any 'risky' road games vs any G6 schools. They need you more than you need them on the resume.

Not saying it won't happen just that there's no reason for any top third in conference type P4 teams to go on the road.

 

[Rebel1986]

I think you're selling ASU a bit short. That coach is really good.

But to your point if I'm a P4 school I'm not taking any 'risky' road games vs any G6 schools. They need you more than you need them on the resume.

Not saying it won't happen just that there's no reason for any top third in conference type P4 teams to go on the road.

We have UCLA coming to UNLV this year. Most of the teams in the P4 conference have just short of zero chance of making the college playoffs, so what has changed that these same schools would suddenly not be willing to play at UNLV? While there is a risk of losing to UNLV, it is also a destination city for alumni to travel to games and support the team which has been shown in the past.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

We have UCLA coming to UNLV this year. Most of the teams in the P4 conference have just short of zero chance of making the college playoffs, so what has changed that these same schools would suddenly not be willing to play at UNLV? While there is a risk of losing to UNLV, it is also a destination city for alumni to travel to games and support the team which has been shown in the past.

I just explained why.

But if a G5 is rolling why take the risk on a road games.

Nobody thinks well we are going to be mediocre and no chance at the CFP. Whether they do or not is a differently.

If I'm an AD of any P4 school I'm not scheduling the Academies. The risk of facing that funky offense far outweighs the reward of beating them.

Same thing here. Why schedule a potentially difficult road game if you don't have to.

I'm not saying they won't get scheduled Im saying there isn't a ton of incentive to do so.

 

[Rebel1986]

I just explained why.

But if a G5 is rolling why take the risk on a road games.

Nobody thinks well we are going to be mediocre and no chance at the CFP. Whether they do or not is a differently.

If I'm an AD of any P4 school I'm not scheduling the Academies. The risk of facing that funky offense far outweighs the reward of beating them.

Same thing here. Why schedule a potentially difficult road game if you don't have to.

I'm not saying they won't get scheduled Im saying there isn't a ton of incentive to do so.

We agree to disagree

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

We agree to disagree

Simple question.

If you are a 'borderline' bowl team from a P4 conference are you scheduling a potentially ranked UNLV or other G5 team on the road or are you making them come to you?

'Group of' schools need P4 wins to for legitimacy and resume. P4 schools do not need G5 schools especially ones that pose risk.

Sure we get P4 schools to come here. But recent opponents have been return games scheduled from back when we stunk and posed zero threat.

So yes you are correct, we can probably get a P4 school to come here. But more times than not we will likely have to take those games on the road. That's life in the G5. You do not pull the strings.

 

[bcvegaspt2]

Games can and do get bought out, so this may not come to fruition.

P4 schools playing here:
2025 - UCLA
2026 none (we play at Cal)
2027 - ASU (we also play at USC)
2028 - Houston
2029 - none scheduled at this time
2030 - none (we play at Iowa State)
2031 - none (we play at UCLA)
2032 - none scheduled at this time

From 2028 - 2032, we do not appear to have all opponents scheduled for our OOC.

UNLV future opponents (as of today)

 

[LVRebel2000]

They won't be offering any home and homes that's for sure.

Will they even be offering a school like UNLV, Memphis, etc, the chance to play them at home? Hopefully so, but I guess we'll see. Before, the top programs had to be in the top 2 or 4 to make it to the title game. Now, you just have to sneak into the top 12 or 16, depending on what they change it to, which means your resume doesn't have to be nearly as good.

So before, you'd take a chance at high quality OOC games, but anymore, maybe not.

 

[dcut03]

UNLV can eventually get to the point where we are considered a quality team, we are almost there.
Meaning a road loss would not be as damning, and it can be a SOS builder as a win.
Many P4 teams absolutely avoid these games. Alabama under Saban notoriously had the most cupcake OOC ever.
LSU isn't afraid of tough OOC games at have at least 1 a year.
I can see a Big 12/ACC team or second tier B1G/SEC team 4 team willing to take that risk. Since they may need to bolster their SOS to get into the playoff contention if they can't win their conference.
But for it to be worth it, UNLV needs to be a regular in the top 25 and a known, consistent commodity. We are not there yet.
Another really good season with MW title contention could get us there. Boise has been there in the past, but has fallen off some, another good year for them this year could get them back there.

 

[dcut03]

UNLV can eventually get to the point where we are considered a quality team, we are almost there.
Meaning a road loss would not be as damning, and it can be a SOS builder as a win.
Many P4 teams absolutely avoid these games. Alabama under Saban notoriously had the most cupcake OOC ever.
LSU isn't afraid of tough OOC games at have at least 1 a year.
I can see a Big 12/ACC team or second tier B1G/SEC team 4 team willing to take that risk. Since they may need to bolster their SOS to get into the playoff contention if they can't win their conference.
But for it to be worth it, UNLV needs to be a regular in the top 25 and a known, consistent commodity. We are not there yet.
Another really good season with MW title contention could get us there. Boise has been there in the past, but has fallen off some, another good year for them this year could get them back there.

I will say though, these games are usually "neutral field" games. So home and home games are still hard to come by. UNLV being in Vegas has a bit of a leg up, just because visiting fans will want to come here. Also they have a shot of making it a neutral field, because it seems very unlikely that UNLV will ever get 65k of our own fans for a home game.

 

[LVRebel2000]

I will say though, these games are usually "neutral field" games. So home and home games are still hard to come by. UNLV being in Vegas has a bit of a leg up, just because visiting fans will want to come here. Also they have a shot of making it a neutral field, because it seems very unlikely that UNLV will ever get 65k of our own fans for a home game.

That's a good point actually. If we were to schedule LSU or a school like that, they'd probably have 20-30k fans come to that game. It would be incredible to play a game at Allegiant that was completely sold out.

 

[dcut03]

We have UCLA coming to UNLV this year. Most of the teams in the P4 conference have just short of zero chance of making the college playoffs, so what has changed that these same schools would suddenly not be willing to play at UNLV? While there is a risk of losing to UNLV, it is also a destination city for alumni to travel to games and support the team which has been shown in the past.

I don't know about that. For the SEC and the Big 10, you just have to be top 4. I would say that 2/3 of those conferences think that they have a shot at finishing there dependeing on the year, especially after seeing Indiana of all teams pull it off.

 

[InZoneU]

The Beavers played a MWC schedule last year.

I think the question is will the Rebels and new MWC teams viewership decline because they aren’t playing Boise State, Oregon State, and Washington State,

Decline from what? The people that watch the games in our footprint will watch the same games. Nobody outside the footprint is going to rush to watch SDSU vs Boise instead of UNLV vs. Wyoming. Because nobody outside the footprint gives a flying fck about any of the PAC or MWC teams.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Decline from what? The people that watch the games in our footprint will watch the same games. Nobody outside the footprint is going to rush to watch SDSU vs Boise instead of UNLV vs. Wyoming. Because nobody outside the footprint gives a flying fck about any of the PAC or MWC teams.

100%...

Nobody East of Colorado is staying up till 11 to watch USU and Fresno battle it out