Markets don’t matter anymore. The days of cable/tv packages dictating a markets purchasing power are dead. If you don’t have brand and can command streaming views then you are essentially worthless.
Musical chairs has started again in college football
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I don't think the State/City turns down the potential revenue of Pac12 Football/basketball conference title games vs trying to strong arm UNLV into the Pac12. I could be totally wrong.
I actually believe that these new rules that allow college student athletes to become millionaires while the students who actually pay to go to school and tax payers are forced to subsidize their education could ultimately be the beginning of the end for college sports.
The fun will begin when men's football/basketball players are making cash and players in swimming, golf, tennis, Olympic sports etc say how unfair the system is...
Outside of a few exceptions, men will make more money. And there will also be complaints about gender inequality.
I for one am here for all the potential chaos this could create.
This is why I don’t think the PAC or BIG Ten will be in a rush to add a bunch of the leftovers. I expect the Big12 to send out some invites soon so that their conference survives.
www.cbssports.com
The Big 12 lost 50% to 75% of its value, several industry sources tell CBS Sports. Their TV contracts with ESPN and Fox contain language that allows the Big 12 to reduce payouts if there is a loss of membership.
That means the Big 12 deal could drop from $37 million in annual revenue to as low as $9 million per school. Considering there aren't two schools available that come close to replacing the value of Texas and Oklahoma, the Big 12 is in troubled waters to say the least.
College football realignment fallout: What's next with Texas, Oklahoma stating intent to leave Big 12 for SEC
Look for the Big Ten to make some moves -- quickly -- and TV networks to have their say
www.cbssports.com
The Big 12 lost 50% to 75% of its value, several industry sources tell CBS Sports. Their TV contracts with ESPN and Fox contain language that allows the Big 12 to reduce payouts if there is a loss of membership.
That means the Big 12 deal could drop from $37 million in annual revenue to as low as $9 million per school. Considering there aren't two schools available that come close to replacing the value of Texas and Oklahoma, the Big 12 is in troubled waters to say the least.
This is why I don’t think the PAC or BIG Ten will be in a rush to add a bunch of the leftovers. I expect the Big12 to send out some invites soon so that their conference survives.
College football realignment fallout: What's next with Texas, Oklahoma stating intent to leave Big 12 for SEC
Look for the Big Ten to make some moves -- quickly -- and TV networks to have their say
The Big 12 lost 50% to 75% of its value, several industry sources tell CBS Sports. Their TV contracts with ESPN and Fox contain language that allows the Big 12 to reduce payouts if there is a loss of membership.
That means the Big 12 deal could drop from $37 million in annual revenue to as low as $9 million per school. Considering there aren't two schools available that come close to replacing the value of Texas and Oklahoma, the Big 12 is in troubled waters to say the least.
To survive they need to move quick.
I don't know academic requirements etc. in Big12 so some of these teams may not qualify.
Expand East.
Cincy, Memphis, UCF,
In state poach Houston (Possibly SMU)
Expand West
BYU, Boise, CSU?
UNLV brings a big TV market. SDSU? Get into California?
Would this be enough to
I don’t think the Big 12 is in a position to be academic snobs right now. They’ll want to keep their payouts as high as possible. BYU should be in if they can work out their issues. I hope they go full on out west but it seems like the AAC (Cincy, UCF, Houston, Memphis) option is probably more valuable than MWC (Boise, CSU, SDSU, ? UNLV ?)
I would think it would be popular to have a trip every other year for football and an annual trip for basketball. It's hard to beat Las Vegas.
Houston makes a ton of sense, so does Memphis and Cincy, UCF and SMU a bit less .BYU makes sense too, especially they are at a bigger disadvantage with the way the playoff may change.
In fact that may be their new 12 right there. I would think all 4 of those teams make more sense over any of the MW options.
That gets them 12. Do they want 16 and move West?
CSU gets them back in the Colorado market. SDSU So Cal, Fresno? No Cal? UNLV big Vegas Market.
Agree.
I think (hope) they go 16. If they go 12, I doubt UNLV is an option. At 16 and a move out West, there's a shot..
It is possible, but the more teams, the more mouths to feed. They turned down BYU, Cinci, and Houston last time around likely because of that problem.
Do they want to turn into the old WAC?
Some good markets, but not great Market shares out west, at least. Houston has a relatively small market share, but it is a top 5 market.
I don’t know how this ends up being positive for the MWC conference as a whole. The only good scenario that I could see happening is the TX schools (Tech, Baylor, TCU) blackball the idea of adding more Texas schools and we somehow get SMU and Houston after the AAC loses its top schools.
Texas& OU are facing about 80M each in exit fees if they leave the big 12 early. I believe they will be working behind the scenes to help other institutions like Oklahoma State or tech to get into another power five conference.
If they can accomplish this they will not have to pay $80 million bucks each to leave the Big 12 because the Big 12 will dissolve.
If they can accomplish this they will not have to pay $80 million bucks each to leave the Big 12 because the Big 12 will dissolve.
The MW can try to be proactive, but no one will bite until the big dominoes fall. He will be trying to pick up the best of the scraps. Especially if current MW teams get poached. He really has no control.
That's really the only way to keep up with this monster the SEC is creating. This Texas/Oklahoma move is huge. Everyone thought realignment 10 years ago was crazy but this is a much bigger shift of power than any of the moves we saw last time.
PAC - Utah, Colorado
BIG Ten - Nebraska, Maryland, Rutgers
ACC - Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville
SEC - A&M, Missouri
Big 12 - TCU, West Virginia
Mountain West Statement
"The Mountain West immediately engaged when we became aware of the potential for conference realignment. That has included gathering information over the past few days from across the industry, and earlier today our board of directors and directors of athletics convened to evaluate that intelligence and discuss next steps. Our intent is to actively appraise various scenarios, identify potential opportunities and take actions which can positively impact the trajectory of the conference and our member institutions. We will do our work confidentially and only comment further as appropriate or necessary."
- MW Commissioner Craig Thompson
This just in: The potential for conference realignment has been upon us for many years. Even though this statement is a couple days old, the part that says they've been "gathering information over the past few days" underscores the biggest problem with this conference leadership: they have no vision, are always behind the curve, and always have that "what the hell just happened" air about them. We can look forward to adding current WAC teams in the next few years.
"The Mountain West immediately engaged when we became aware of the potential for conference realignment. That has included gathering information over the past few days from across the industry, and earlier today our board of directors and directors of athletics convened to evaluate that intelligence and discuss next steps. Our intent is to actively appraise various scenarios, identify potential opportunities and take actions which can positively impact the trajectory of the conference and our member institutions. We will do our work confidentially and only comment further as appropriate or necessary."
- MW Commissioner Craig Thompson
This just in: The potential for conference realignment has been upon us for many years. Even though this statement is a couple days old, the part that says they've been "gathering information over the past few days" underscores the biggest problem with this conference leadership: they have no vision, are always behind the curve, and always have that "what the hell just happened" air about them. We can look forward to adding current WAC teams in the next few years.
I love the DISRESPECT of Greg the 🤡 Thompson from the Brady bunch not Craig "Smokey" from Friday ! LMFAO 🤣😂🤣
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Considering he has been totally useless over the last decade, no wonder I didn't even get his name right!
I think this is a very real possibility. Im not sure how many teams they add, but my guess is at least 4 from the PAC or even 7. If its 7 Id think SC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Oregon, UW, and one of CU, UU, UA . (if its four SC, UCLA, UO, UW) All of those I list are AAU (American Association of University) schools which the BIG prefers (Nebrasksa is not but was when they joined). All ofthe PAC with the exception of the 3 State schools (OSU, WSU,ASU) are AAU members, so if this new proposed conference wanted to get to 3 divisions of 8 could add CU, UU and UA. They also could add AAU schools Iowa St and Kansas.
If the new BIG is 21 schools you could have three 7 team conferences, East, Midwest and West. If they add 4 schools 3 6 team conferences.
East (Exisiting Big10 East)
Rutgers
Maryland
Penn St
Indiana
Ohio St
MSU
UM
Midwest (Existing BIG10 West)
Iowa
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Illinois
Nebraska
Purdue
Minnesota
West
SC
UCLA
Stanford
Cal
Oregon
UW
(One of)CU, UA, UU, to me CU makes the most these of these, former rivals with Nebraska.
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That would be crazy. That would potentially leave ASU and U of A out in the cold. If you end up going that far, may as well make it 24 teams, and shift around a little bit for geography. Maybe put Colorado and Utah in the Midwest group, then shift one of the midwest teams to the East (maybe Minnesota).
Either way, who knows what this whole situation starts to evolve into. Plus, now that TX and OU are talking about staying until 2025, how does that play into things? Maybe that's better for UNLV, since we'll have a couple years to get the ball rolling. Although, this realignment will take time to come together, so who knows.
