Interesting Names From Mark Anderson

[Bullmastiff 1]

It's hard to determine much about how Entz would do building a program. He inhereited a NDSU program whose WORST seasons in the last 8 years were two 2-loss seasons (13-2 overall in '15 and 12-2 in '16). That's similar to Bobby Hauck, who did well at Montana but took over after a coach that went 39-6 there.

The reason the timing may be right for Jay Hill is that it is uncommon that FCS coaches on the west coast emerge getting mentioned for FBS positions. The problem is that there are not many FCS programs west of the Dakotas - just 14 total FCS schools (from Colorado west), while there are 112 FCS schools from the Dakotas/Texas and further east. Hill also has 10 years of MWC coaching experience as an assistant at Utah. He has also had to build a program, inheriting a team that had only 2 wins in each of the two season before he arrived and again having only 2 wins his first year... but since then he has had 5 strait winning seasons.

I would rather promote a coordinator with West Coast ties or hire Jay Hill over Entz for reasons you mentioned.

Weber States has 2 losses on the season both on the road. Both to FBS programs.

Lost 6-0 to SDSU
Lost 19-14 to Reno

Hill's name has popped up as a possibility for the BYU job if it opens up.

For some reason I thought Entz had been at NDSU longer.

 

[WarthogRebel]

If she goes FCS, Hill seems like an excellent choice. Solid on Defense, knows the region, head coach experience and rebuilt a program.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

If she goes FCS, Hill seems like an excellent choice. Solid on Defense, knows the region, head coach experience and rebuilt a program.

What is this defense you speak of?

 

[RebelinWA]

I d vote for Gonzalez, if I had a say. Knows the recruiting area, knows how to scheme/ recruit for a defense, and knows the MWC conference. More importantly, if we make that big step up, he also knows the PAC pretty well. I m just tired of seeing bad defenses.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

I d vote for Gonzalez, if I had a say. Knows the recruiting area, knows how to scheme/ recruit for a defense, and knows the MWC conference. More importantly, if we make that big step up, he also knows the PAC pretty well. I m just tired of seeing bad defenses.

I don't know if he's even a guy they are/would look at but he makes sense.

Same with Morgan Scalley the DC at Utah.

Gonzales is at 500k at ASU

Scalley is 800k at Utah

Both within reason financially.

 

[WarthogRebel]

What is this defense you speak of?

Played Cornerback at Utah - Cornerbacks coach Utah/STC

 

[unlv91]

DRF needs a splash hire like she did in basketball. A name coach is highly preferable no matter the end results five years from now. This schizophrenic person says get-er- done

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Played Cornerback at Utah - Cornerbacks coach Utah/STC

I was making a joke about our lack of defense.

Hill makes a lot of sense based on familiarity with region and salary. That's why his name has popped up.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

DRF needs a splash hire like she did in basketball. A name coach is highly preferable no matter the end results five years from now. This schizophrenic person says get-er- done

I've asked this question before.

I'm giving you 2 million per year to hire a coach to take over the footbal program at UNLV.

Who are your suggestions for a 'name' coach?

 

[WarthogRebel]

Coaches salaries

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

$ 2 mill does not get a name coach. You can get "Names" for a lot less but they are retreads currently coordinators or broadcasters.

Not saying retreads aren't a viable option.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Coaches salaries

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

$ 2 mill does not get a name coach. You can get "Names" for a lot less but they are retreads currently coordinators or broadcasters.

Not saying retreads aren't a viable option.

Exactly.

I'm not sure how much UNLV has to spend but 2 million would be more than double any previous coaches salary.

2 million isn't luring a high end G5 or P5 coach to UNLV, much less a 'name' hire.

There are a number of promising coordinators that UNLV could possibly get at 1 to 1.5 million per.

I'm not sure who folks expect to walk through those doors..

I'll be surprised if it's a 'name' hire that does much to excite anybody beyond the diehards..

 

[unlv91]

A retread like a Jim Mora would to me be a viable option. Next in line would be a Brady Hoke. To me Mora is a better option than some fcs up and comer.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

A retread like a Jim Mora would to me be a viable option. Next in line would be a Brady Hoke. To me Mora is a better option than some fcs up and comer.

Mora has name value. Was rumored last year.

Mora could probably put a decent staff together.

Not sure Hoke gets people excited. Good coach though.

 

[willlevi]

What is this defense you speak of?

Played Cornerback at Utah - Cornerbacks coach Utah/STC

Jay Hill was actually expected to come back to Utah as the Defensive Coordinator in 2015 but withdrew his name from consideration due to his commitment to Weber State.

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=2035762&itype=CMSID

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Jay Hill was actually expected to come back to Utah as the Defensive Coordinator in 2015 but withdrew his name from consideration due to his commitment to Weber State.

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=2035762&itype=CMSID

Will, I know, I was making a joke.

Somebody mentioned defense.

I was making a joke about how I wasn't familiar with the word since we rarely see it played here.

If I had a top 5 realiatic candidates list, Hill would be on it.

 

[dcut03]

Mora has name value. Was rumored last year.

Mora could probably put a decent staff together.

Not sure Hoke gets people excited. Good coach though.

It's hard to imagine a higher level retread than Mora if we were to go that route.

Still young. Had actual success at the Falcons and the best success UCLA has had in the past 25 years.

He's available for a reason. But has name value, has recruited the region. Again he looks better and better the worse Chip Kelly does.

Not saying that is the way I would prefer to go. Though I will admit name recognition matters to me now more than it does normally just because of the timing with the new stadium.

Also worth mentioning that Gonzales is the assoc head coach at ASU. No HC experience, but that title can speak to his leadership qualities and what Herm Edwards thinks about him.


I'm much more in favor of Hill vs Entz. Hill built his program from scratch (and quickly) and knows the area. Entz is a bit of a care taker, without much HC time to boot.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

It's hard to imagine a higher level retread than Mora if we were to go that route.

Still young. Had actual success at the Falcons and the best success UCLA has had in the past 25 years.

He's available for a reason. But has name value, has recruited the region. Again he looks better and better the worse Chip Kelly does.

Not saying that is the way I would prefer to go. Though I will admit name recognition matters to me now more than it does normally just because of the timing with the new stadium.

Also worth mentioning that Gonzales is the assoc head coach at ASU. No HC experience, but that title can speak to his leadership qualities and what Herm Edwards thinks about him.


I'm much more in favor of Hill vs Entz. Hill built his program from scratch (and quickly) and knows the area. Entz is a bit of a care taker, without much HC time to boot.

Don't count on Mora happening.

Agree on Hill vs Entz.

Along with Gonzales I really like Morgan Scalley the DC at Utah as well.

 

[drmontehorne_a_yahoo.com]

Urban Meyer...

 

[unlv91]

Don't count on Mora happening.

Agree on Hill vs Entz.

Along with Gonzales I really like Morgan Scalley the DC at Utah as well.

Is that a gut feel on Mora or from actual sources?

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Is that a gut feel on Mora or from actual sources?

Rumor. Nothing concrete.

 

[reagan21]

Hill's name has popped up as a possibility for the BYU job if it opens up.

For some reason I thought Entz had been at NDSU longer.

Kalani Sitaki is not going anywhere. The only way Hill is on the staff is if BYU fires Grimes at OC, but that wouldn't make sense for BYU or Hill.

 

[reagan21]

Urban Meyer...

's friend Robert

 

[reagan21]

I want Scalley, badly.......

 

[reagan21]

Am I too lazy to do multiple quotes and have only one reply? Absolutely.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Kalani Sitaki is not going anywhere. The only way Hill is on the staff is if BYU fires Grimes at OC, but that wouldn't make sense for BYU or Hill.

Nope.

Sitaki looks safe now.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

I want Scalley, badly.......

You and me both.


Top 3 for me in order...

1- Scalley Utah DC
2- Gonzales ASU DC
3- Hill Weber State HC

1 and 2 flip a coin for me.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

I want Scalley, badly.......

Scalley seems primed for a HC job and is making 800k this year.

Question is can UNLV make it worth it for him to leave vs hold out for bigger job. There are only 130 odd FBS coaching jobs so any opportunity has to be hard to turn down.

 

[RebelinWA]

I think we’d have a better shot at Urban’s cousin Oscar Mayer than Urban himself.

 

[unlv91]

It’s a crap shoot if we get a first time head coach. We need a seasoned proven guy imo

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

It’s a crap shoot if we get a first time head coach. We need a seasoned proven guy imo

Tougher to get is the problem.

Brady Hoke would be a solid candidate.

I don't think it will be him though.

Doesn't fit her profile based on Otz hiring.

Scalley currently runs the #3 defense in the country. Utah has been very good on D since he took over the DC job. Improving each season. From #39 to #17 last year and #3 this year.

Gonzales #46 defense in the country and the defense has improved every year he's been there. Prior to that he ran SDSU's defense and I believe they were top 30 in the country both his years there.

Based on what UNLV can likely afford, I'm thinking it will be a coordinator.

Could be wrong though.

 

[WarthogRebel]

You and me both.


Top 3 for me in order...

1- Scalley Utah DC
2- Gonzales ASU DC
3- Hill Weber State HC

1 and 2 flip a coin for me.

We can't afford to have coordinators learn on the job. We absolutely need someone with HC experience.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

We can't afford to have coordinators learn on the job. We absolutely need someone with HC experience.

I get it.

But every good to great coach had a first job.

Either Coach Sanchez put the pieces in place for the next potential guy to succeed or he didn't.

Sure I'd love to poach Clark away from UAB. Or maybe bring in a Jim Mcelwain. The possibility of that doesn't seem very realistic. Unless there is some new found booster support it is likely an FCS guy jumping up or a coordinator.

With Scalley we are talking about a guy with 12 years coaching experience. With Gonzales, it's a guy Herm Edwards gave an associate HC title because of the job they have done.

UNLV's a tough job. We all know that.

Would Jim Mora do it for you? I don't think it happens.

June Jones retirement tour?

Look at salaries of other G5 coaches out there.

For sake of argument/discussion, hypothetically say the coach at N. Texas is killing it and has his team winning 8+ games a year the last 4 years and making 800k. Why would he come to UNLV vs wait for a better G5 or P5 opportunity? Because we have the Fertitta complex? You would have to probably double a guys salary to poach them. Then you have to factor in do they have regional/recruiting connections.

One of the less considered obstacles in a coaching search for UNLV is how many fewer D1 football schools there are in the West vs the Midwest and East Coast.

Brady Hoke. Sure, I would take that.

Todd Graham the former ASU guy wants to coach again. Not sure how his buyout was structured. And if UNLV could pay him enough to get him off the couch.

But..

There aren't a lot of realistic guys out there with HC experience that UNLV can likely afford.

 

[lvrebalum2012]

Doesn't fit her profile based on Otz hiring.

TBH, I keep seeing this statement thrown around. I understand that it is pretty much all we have to go by at this point in time, but that was one hire. To assume any other hires she makes will match the profile of the TJO hire is silly to me based on the sample size.

It very well could end up being the same type of hire, which I assume would mean we'd end up with a successful FCS coach like the guy at Weber State.

If there is anything that can be said about the way the TJO hire went down is that nobody (fans, media, Rebel-netters) will have a clue until the hire is made.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

TBH, I keep seeing this statement thrown around. I understand that it is pretty much all we have to go by at this point in time, but that was one hire. To assume any other hires she makes will match the profile of the TJO hire is silly to me based on the sample size.

It very well could end up being the same type of hire, which I assume would mean we'd end up with a successful FCS coach like the guy at Weber State.

If there is anything that can be said about the way the TJO hire went down is that nobody (fans, media, Rebel-netters) will have a clue until the hire is made.

Except there is actually a track record beyond Otz.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sport...f-hiring-up-and-coming-coaches-video-1621899/

 

[lvrebalum2012]

Except there is actually track record beyond Otz.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sport...f-hiring-up-and-coming-coaches-video-1621899/

As the assistant AD, she hired head coaches at VT and Tennessee? Impressive.

My point stands. People saying, “based on the Otz hire” is based off of too small a sample size. Could be right, could be wrong. We will see.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

As the assistant AD, she hired head coaches at VT and Tennessee? Impressive.

My point stands. People saying, “based on the Otz hire” is based off of too small a sample size. Could be right, could be wrong. We will see.

She was part the hiring process...

Nobody knows for sure obviously.

But based on other coaching searches she was involved in and the names floated during the Otz search there looks like a pattern.

With how many D1 programs there are in basketball it's easier to hire/poach a current HC with experience than it is in football.

That's why I think it's a coordinator or possibly an FCS guy. Not to mention money.

Does she stick to it? Don't know, but I'll be shocked if a June Jones type is hired.