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Line ‘em up: Predictions and Game Thread Hawaii

They’re screwing the pooch.

Back to back games with under 30 points for a team that scores above 40 per game.

and scoring this game was a huge struggle. Two missed FG’s, penalties and one of the worst red zones in the country.

It’s nauseating when your offensive wizardry is your bread and butter.
At least we get a good warm fuzzy feeling with byu currently losing 21-10.
 
Sometimes you have to win ugly like that but our offense has work to do between now and SJSU. You can also bet teams will be testing Oliver deep because he got beat several times they just couldn’t complete the pass.
 
Sometimes you have to win ugly like that but our offense has work to do between now and SJSU. You can also bet teams will be testing Oliver deep because he got beat several times they just couldn’t complete the pass.
Been saying all season long that we cannot defend the pass at all. Every game this year we have made a crappy QB look like an NFL legend. Ikeep thinking they are going to fix it but they don't. Better teams are going to expose it and we will lose to better teams because of it. Our 2 losses are perfect examples. The defense needs to be overhauled in a big way. They really need to get a new coordinator next year. This guy just ain't cutting it.
 
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Yea we gave away 25 points. 2 TD. 2 FG and a safety instead of TD.

Hajj looked.....Uncertain tonight? Hawaii is solid defensively. Did a good job bracketing Ricky most of the night. Took run game a while to get going.

Lot of miscues in passing game/route running.

Didn't love a couple of the third and shorts calls.

That said.

UNLV is averaging close to 40 points a game and we're shitting on our OC...Offense was out of sync and still put up 465 yards.
 
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Hajj looked.....Uncertain tonight? Hawaii is solid defensively. Did a good job bracketing Ricky most of the night. Took run game a while to get going.

Lot of miscues in passing game/route running.

Didn't love a couple of the third and shorts calls.

That said.

UNLV is averaging close to 40 points a game and we're shitting on our OC...
Hajj needs to check down better. Looks for White almost every time if not open runs.
 
Hajj needs to check down better. Looks for White almost every time if not open runs.

I would agree.

Early he just seemed antsy? Dropped back and it was almost like as soon as his back foot hit in his drop, he was already looking to run. Missed a couple easy throws early.

Calmed down in the second half.

Worst game he's played for us and Rebs still got the W.

I'll take it.

Now I want to absolutely roll SDSU.
 
I would agree.

Early he just seemed antsy? Dropped back and it was almost like as soon as his back foot hit in his drop, he was already looking to run. Missed a couple easy throws early.

Calmed down in the second half.

Worst game he's played for us and Rebs still got the W.

I'll take it.

Now I want to absolutely roll SDSU.
IT felt like this watching the game!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I would agree.

Early he just seemed antsy? Dropped back and it was almost like as soon as his back foot hit in his drop, he was already looking to run. Missed a couple easy throws early.

Calmed down in the second half.

Worst game he's played for us and Rebs still got the W.

I'll take it.

Now I want to absolutely roll SDSU.
That last run bye Williams he should of just surrendered after the 1st down. Easily could of been stripped .
 
Happy to get out of there with the win. I didn’t expect it to be easy. I thought it would be a close game but holy crap we made that a lot tougher than it needed to be. Hawaii isn’t a terrible team. They finish with USU and UNM. I’d like to see them make a bowl this year.
 
Been saying all season long that we cannot defend the pass at all. Every game this year we have made a crappy QB look like an NFL legend. Ikeep thinking they are going to fix it but they don't. Better teams are going to expose it and we will lose to better teams because of it. Our 2 losses are perfect examples. The defense needs to be overhauled in a big way. They really need to get a new coordinator next year. This guy just ain't cutting it.
On paper we should definitely be better than we are we have some players. I think the lack of pass rush hurts our secondary but some of those guys were wide open despite getting to the QB yesterday.
 
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Happy to get out of there with the win. I didn’t expect it to be easy. I thought it would be a close game but holy crap we made that a lot tougher than it needed to be. Hawaii isn’t a terrible team. They finish with USU and UNM. I’d like to see them make a bowl this year.
Stinks Hawaii and UNM play one another both need the win to get bowl eligible.
 
On paper we should definitely be better than we are we have some players. I think the lack of pass rush hurts our secondary but some of those guys were wide open despite getting to the QB yesterday.
They were wide open because we got to the QB... we blitzed way more yesterday leaving guys 1 v 1 and Catalon got burned by the speedy WRs. So far this year we hadn't surrendered those types of shots but Hawaii running 5 WR splits and just sending go routes all night deep led to alot of deep balls. We got more pressure but struggled to keep WRs in front of us all night. Their QB missed several wide open guys
 
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That was bad, reminded me of Syracuse.

I thought we had a couple calls to our way too but they weren’t as pivotal as that one.

I’m still super concerned about our offensive flow.

I get the concerns about the offense being a bit disjointed this game. And yeah the settling for FGs vs TDs in the Red Zone creeps up too often.

But we're number 38 in total offense and number 7 in scoring offense.

Anybody who thinks Marion is 'hurting his resume' or coaching himself out of future jobs is nuts...

Our passing game stinks..

(number 38 in the country passing efficiency)
 
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I get the concerns about the offense being a bit disjointed this game. And yeah the settling for FGs vs TDs in the Red Zone creeps up too often.

But we're number 38 in total offense and number 7 in scoring offense.

Anybody who thinks Marion is 'hurting his resume' or coaching himself out of future jobs is nuts...

Our passing game stinks..

(number 38 in the country passing efficiency)
He has lost me with his ignoramus act on the sidelines. I guess you're good with that. OK. A big no thanks for me. Make adjustments or call better plays or do a better job in practice coaching it up, instead of screaming at everyone would be a good start.
 
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He has lost me with his ignoramus act on the sidelines. I guess you're good with that. OK. A big no thanks for me. Make adjustments or call better plays or do a better job in practice coaching it up, instead of screaming at everyone would be a good start.

The only people I see complaining about this are fans.

Coaches jump players shit all the time. This isn't new. He's also been seen congratulating dudes after big plays and scores.

Yeah I'm good with scoring 40 points a game and being top 40 in total offense. That's his job move the ball put points on the board.

It isn't to win a popularity contest.

And he's done it with a QB that over half the board crapped on when he was brought in. Maybe, just maybe he's kinda good at his job.

Numbers back that up. Results back that up.

It's like boxing. People who hate Floyd Mayweather. I get it, he's an ass. But to expand on that and say he sucks....Is just foolish.
 
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Thank you!
That stream was incredible..
The only people I see complaining about this are fans.

Coaches jump players shit all the time. This isn't new. He's also been seen congratulating dudes after big plays and scores.

Yeah I'm good with scoring 40 points a game and being top 40 in total offense. That's his job move the ball put points on the board.

It isn't to win a popularity contest.

And he's done it with a QB that over half the board crapped on when he was brought in. Maybe, just maybe he's kinda good at his job.

Numbers back that up. Results back that up.

It's like boxing. People who hate Floyd Mayweather. I get it, he's an ass. But to expand on that and say he sucks....Is just foolish.
this was a tough game. Anyone who bet on Hawaii made out like bandits.

I liked it. They made Ballunguy look really ordinary.

Very entertaining.

It was like two people familiar with each other like boxing and putting it all on the line.
 
The only people I see complaining about this are fans.

Coaches jump players shit all the time. This isn't new. He's also been seen congratulating dudes after big plays and scores.

Yeah I'm good with scoring 40 points a game and being top 40 in total offense. That's his job move the ball put points on the board.

It isn't to win a popularity contest.

And he's done it with a QB that over half the board crapped on when he was brought in. Maybe, just maybe he's kinda good at his job.

Numbers back that up. Results back that up.

It's like boxing. People who hate Floyd Mayweather. I get it, he's an ass. But to expand on that and say he sucks....Is just foolish.
Yeah I just totally disagree on a college level. On a pro level, you got a point. But we aren't pros.

If you want a Woody Hayes type. It's not gonna last very long.
 
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Yeah I just totally disagree on a college level. On a pro level, you got a point. But we aren't pros.

If you want a Woody Hayes type. It's not gonna last very long.

They are getting compensated. They kinda are pros.

As for coaches approach/mentality.

I think it's all goes to results.

'Players coach' Is great. Until things go south. Then the coach is too soft 'we need a disciplinarian'.


'Hard ass' is great. Until things go south. Then you need a 'players coach that can relate'.

In my opinion. If you're winning people typically don't care.
 
They were wide open because we got to the QB... we blitzed way more yesterday leaving guys 1 v 1 and Catalon got burned by the speedy WRs. So far this year we hadn't surrendered those types of shots but Hawaii running 5 WR splits and just sending go routes all night deep led to alot of deep balls. We got more pressure but struggled to keep WRs in front of us all night. Their QB missed several wide open guys
This is true they did blitz a lot but I can see why too our DB’s ahpudl be good enough to cover them one on one periodically and a few times they let receivers run right past them like they weren’t paying attention. I can’t imagine it was effort based or they were expecting safety help over the top but more than once they let them run by.
 
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They are getting compensated. They kinda are pros.

As for coaches approach/mentality.

I think it's all goes to results.

'Players coach' Is great. Until things go south. Then the coach is too soft 'we need a disciplinarian'.


'Hard ass' is great. Until things go south. Then you need a 'players coach that can relate'.

In my opinion. If you're winning people typically don't care.
Hire a bunch of idiot coaches that think like this, and your program will not be for long. I mean come on man. You know better.

Dude already got us in a huge kerfuffle (good word btw) with Sluka BS. Get him outta here, he's a trainwreck waiting to happen. Let him go be HC at ULL or something.
 
Would anyone care if arroyo was chewing guys out 3-4 years ago on the way to its first bowl game? Remember Arroyo blew it vs Hawaii in his last season, effort was ho hum and I didn’t see the accountability on the sidelines.

Regardless if you like Marion’s personality or not, he’s the most successful offensive coordinator in our history. Yes he chewed out Hajj, but Hajj got a TD drive going in the next series.

There’s a standard and it was clear to me that the players lost some kind of an edge after the Boise game and it lingered over the bye week. OL and the decision making by Hajj was iffy at best. That or something about playing in Hawaii that’s just tough.
 
Hire a bunch of idiot coaches that think like this, and your program will not be for long. I mean come on man. You know better.

Dude already got us in a huge kerfuffle (good word btw) with Sluka BS. Get him outta here, he's a trainwreck waiting to happen. Let him go be HC at ULL or something.

Know better than what?

Coaches that go all Bobby Knight are great and nobody has an issue until the results diminish.

'Players coaches' are great until results diminish.

Saban use to absolutely unload on some of his guys. But he knew how to balance it. Using a horse metaphor he knew when it was time for the carrot and or the spurs.


I simply don't understand after years and years and years of garbage, we have an offense that is putting up great numbers and people are like get him out of here. He sucks. Meh he's mean to his players.

Sure Sluka thing is troubling but trainwreck?

What we had before was a train wreck.

Best two seasons back to back and we're bitching about our OC because he doesn't give us a warm and fuzzy feeling. Because there's no reason to complain about the results on the field. Isolated things like red zone offense. Sure I'm with you. But big picture...He's a part of why we are where we are.
 
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