Gary Patterson
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He's my top choice too after neon which isn't happening. Then Ed O then Herman. But any of them would be fantastic
I'd take Ed O, but there are actually a few coordinators I might take ahead of him.
Herman, Patterson would top my list.
Dan Mullen is intriguing but not a lot of West Coast ties.
Alex Grinch USC DC is interesting as well.
I've leaned towards going with a defensive oriented guy for awhile. Obviously you need athletes, but I think schematically you can cover up some warts/lack of athletes on the defensive side of the ball easier than on the offensive side unless you are going to run somethin similar to Air Force or Army.
Sorry brother, I got the Thai and Khmer video behind my back. Since I spokes both languages I was thinking about foods rather than coaches evaluation
Has been DC at Ohio State, USC and Oklahoma along with WASU.
42 years old, so younger dude that can relate to players.
Also was a DB coach at Wyoming so some familiarity with the conference. USC and Wyoming stints give him some familiarity with the region.
If it's not a guy with HC experience his resume is pretty solid.
Sound like he is third in line if Patterson and Herman doesn't accept. That credentials seems impressive.
Grinch does have a solid resume, and there are guys like him taking bigger jobs than UNLV, Dan Lanning to Oregon last year, Kenny Dillingham to ASU this week are two recently off of the top of my head. Would Grinch even take UNLV or hold out for a P5 position? I know nothing about Cincinnati's opene position now that Fickel has left, but Grinch is a midwest guy, is that something thats a better fit for him as they move to P5?
WIth that said, I feel after going through coach after coach after coach, UNLV needs a littel stability which a veteran HC would hopefully bring.
Would Patterson retire at UNLV? Maybe, would Herman? Probably not, Would Grinch? No way he'd be here 3-4 years tops and either be fired or move to a better position. If the latter happens that's not a bad thing, but history shows that doesnt happen at UNLV.
Agreed.
I think UNLV should target HC experience. But I'm against leaving any stones unturned.
At the very least he should be a fallback option if guys like Herman or Patterson are off the board.
He may not even be a target, but he should at least be being looked at.
Another thing that we know is that choice 1-4 rarely end up at UNLV, so if there is a list somewhere in the AD's drawer, 5-10 is probably who ends up here
Which depending on the strength of the list that may be a good thing....
Or bad...Based on history.
Assuming that connections is normal. Let us just say that our AD called Patterson the moment he got canned at TCU. Things will changed a little bit.
Let's talk about Tom Herman. He haven't been coaching for 2 years? He saw what UNLV have as far resources go...The guy was one of the hottest coach in the nation. Can he take this program up a notch?
These are the men that went through the lows and the high of their lives.....Eddie O won a NC for Christ sake!
I don't think anyone has mentioned Shane Streichen. What are your thoughts on him?
You absolutely go get him if he's there.
I change my mind a bit.
Patterson, Herman, Orgeron.
I'd still take a long look at Grinch though.
Depend on what his HC prospects are at the NFL level in the next few years probably.
UNLV ties are nice. How much would he excite boosters/fan base is a fair question.
RJ Potential Candidates
Patterson...doubtful. Better programs will be interested.
Steichen...No way he comes here. He's hot in the NFL and will take his chances there.
Patterson...doubtful. Better programs will be interested.
Steichen...No way he comes here. He's hot in the NFL and will take his chances there.
Another point brought up about the nfl guys..Especially Steichen. Do you think they would leave the NFL right now in the next week to be UNlV head coach? Steichen won't be available till February. Too much recruiting time missed.
Excellent point. Especially when you factor in the extra work needed to re-recruit current players as well.
Coaches that have done it in the past typically accept the job now, but will stay at their NFL job through the end of the season. They spend a little time each week assembling their staff and recruiting. Obviously not ideal, but if a coach in the NFL is decidedly the best guy, it can be done to a certain extent
History also shows us with crappy locker rooms, too! (man, we continue to get mileage outta that, don't we?)
Any reasonably young, successful coach would want to move on for a shot at the title. Couldn't blame them. If something happens (realignment, CFP changes) and UNLV becomes a place where that can happen, why leave?
Patterson got successful by recruiting a certain type of player, often those that were overlooked. Often having them change positions. The most famous example being Jerry Hughes who was originally a RB.
I think Patterson got TCU so successful where he has to recruit higher level players that perhaps didn't gel as well with him?
Anyway I do think that he would like a place like UNLV where he recruit a certain type of player.
He is also very unique where he has already elevated a middling MW team to the power 5, where he was also successful.
So in a way, I think he may be a better mutual fit, than say Herman.
It looks like his buyout was about 18 mil and he had 3 years left? That was a little over a year ago so nearly 12 mil? He has worked as a special assistant at Texas foe 150k so bot a huge dent there
I think Patterson got TCU so successful where he has to recruit higher level players that perhaps didn't gel as well with him?
Anyway I do think that he would like a place like UNLV where he recruit a certain type of player.
He is also very unique where he has already elevated a middling MW team to the power 5, where he was also successful.
So in a way, I think he may be a better mutual fit, than say Herman.
It looks like his buyout was about 18 mil and he had 3 years left? That was a little over a year ago so nearly 12 mil? He has worked as a special assistant at Texas foe 150k so bot a huge dent there
No chance he’s leaving the NFL for UNLV. He will be a HC soon in the NFL
I am grateful that neon is out of the picture. I see all kinds of problems there. It will be interesting to look back in 3 years and see what happens to his program (probably CO.). Patterson would be killer cool.
As far as Ed Orgeron goes, here's a little history associated with him and UNLV:
Former UNLV H.C. (J Rob) contacts big time UNLV Booster, and asks him to
call A.D. (Tina) to see if he can call her about a potential replacement for Bobby Hauck (this happened shortly after he was fired)
Permission granted phone call occurs.
Here's how the call goes: Tina this is J Rob I have a potential Coach to fill your vacancy. We have some money lined up to help offset the price tag, so you can get him for 300k. He's got a great resume.
Tina: Who is it?
J Rob: Ed Orgeron
Tina: He's too old
The brain trust behind UNLV at the time. Oh well at least we have a real nice football facility.
I wonder if Ed has forgotten that
Former UNLV H.C. (J Rob) contacts big time UNLV Booster, and asks him to
call A.D. (Tina) to see if he can call her about a potential replacement for Bobby Hauck (this happened shortly after he was fired)
Permission granted phone call occurs.
Here's how the call goes: Tina this is J Rob I have a potential Coach to fill your vacancy. We have some money lined up to help offset the price tag, so you can get him for 300k. He's got a great resume.
Tina: Who is it?
J Rob: Ed Orgeron
Tina: He's too old
The brain trust behind UNLV at the time. Oh well at least we have a real nice football facility.
I wonder if Ed has forgotten that
No way. That just can't be true...well....it's UNLV and all but if true, unreal!
"Patterson would be killer cool."
1. What about his buyout? He's owed $6.1 mil yearly through 2024.
2. Did Texas pay his buyout + his salary this year to get him as an assistant?
3. Is there any article that says he has any interest at all in coaching as a head coach? Didn't he turn down Nebraska? Reports he shut down Auburn?
It’s possible that Patterson doesn’t want a high profile job. He did his best work when TCU was up and coming and expectations were low. Perhaps that is what he enjoys the most. Some guys just prefer that type of atmosphere. At Auburn and Nebraska, the pressure to win (and win big) would be immense. At UNLV if you win 6-8 games a year and go to 2 or more bowls in a 5 or 6 year period, you’d probably get a statue. Not saying this is how he feels, but IF he were genuinely interested in UNLV and wasn’t in Nebraska or Auburn, I’d think this would be why.
Would love to see it. He's an NFL guy and will be a head coach in 2024. I don't want to see him leave as an Eagles fan, but he'll get his shot in the NFL. No way he coaches in college.
But what about the additional $ 12 million in the buyout?
People need to start thinking about coaches who don't have a multi-million dollar buyout.
What ever happens it will be interesting. At this juncture I do not see UNLV screwing the pooch on this decision.
We are at a turning point with our facilities and it sounds like we have some financial backing.
We are at a turning point with our facilities and it sounds like we have some financial backing.
