Also I think a point is missed here. UNLV now has the highest paid coach in the league.
UNLV which has one of the worst football programs in the country, from a school that is strapped for cash.
This contract is a pretty big deal.
Coach Barry Odom
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Also I think a point is missed here. UNLV now has the highest paid coach in the league.
UNLV which has one of the worst football programs in the country, from a school that is strapped for cash.
This contract is a pretty big deal.
Strapped for cash?? We have 308 million PLUS in endowment. Invest in a good coach and we can start to profit at FB games. Imagine how many tickets would be sold if we were 9-3 AND in Pac-12 or another Power 5 conference. IMO with away ticket and home tickets combined we would have 35-40000 PLUS at every game. Probably 50,000 plus for the bigger games.
308 million? to use for athletics? Where TF did this money come from?
Looking at our attendance we sure aren't making money with the games themselves and we get 3 mil in TV money.
I agree you ahve to spend money to make money. You also have to have money to spend money. That has been our problem.
Also it has been a poor investment this far. Our fans will only support winners, if at all anymore. Dumping cash into something that could make money, but has to be extremely successful first, and there is some uncertainty if fans will ever show again despite success.
An endowment is not money to be used. It’s invested money and you “live off the interest” or dividends. And that’s for the entire university….and a $308M endowment is tiny, to be honest.
You do understand that endowments are earkmarked--you can't just take money from the general endowment and put it towards athletics. You can't take an athletic endowment like UNLV golf has and use it for whatever you want. It's all legally tied up. You literally can't do that. That's financial fraud and an amazing way to make sure that you don't get any general fund donations moving forward.
When Coach Odom was doing the press conference, he joked about how he was in town recently and found his way into the football facility. He toured some downstairs and some upstairs and came away very impressed. A friend of mine sent me some security footage of what he saw when he was on campus.
You can see why he was so impressed!
You can see why he was so impressed!
Hoya is a smart guy, but sometimes smart guys have awful takes
This is a fun thread to revisit.
Still early.
But early returns have been good.
A lot of us may be able to tell you exactly what crow tastes in the coming weeks.
Still early.
But early returns have been good.
A lot of us may be able to tell you exactly what crow tastes in the coming weeks.
Most come from alumni bequests many of which have stipulations for the use of those funds.
I feel like I'm already there, lol.. I was disappointed in the hire initially, but then I took a short term view and I'm seeing positive change everywhere so it's all going according to plan. Lol
It happens...
And if Rebs are winning I'll gladly order the Braised Crow confit and humble pie for desert.
We might tank the rest of the games..
Remember when the Rebels took a dive the rest of the season after playing ND?
Still too early to tell.
Remember when the Rebels took a dive the rest of the season after playing ND?
Still too early to tell.
Considering the schedule the rest of the way and the fact that we aren't coached by 3 and out Arroyo I can't see us nose diving... Adults are now in control of the program
I believe coach Odom has something to prove. He feels that he was not given time to win at Mizzou. He is highly motivated to make this work and has set goals of winning the conference and being ranked #1 in recruiting. He is exactly what we needed at this point in time. We have a opportunity to become a powerful program. In my opinion we should be the Top destination for group of 5 players and Transfers.
I think one thing not being discussed is the realignment fallout.
Would a MWC/Remaining Pac schools be considered P5? I doubt it. But they might be viewed as to G5 conference. That might be enough to keep him around a bit until a considerably better job opened up.
I don't think if you are Odom you bolt at the first P5 job that comes calling.
Would a MWC/Remaining Pac schools be considered P5? I doubt it. But they might be viewed as to G5 conference. That might be enough to keep him around a bit until a considerably better job opened up.
I don't think if you are Odom you bolt at the first P5 job that comes calling.
Our Coach, Coach Odom have a kid on football team and another one in Gorman HS. He is not bolting to no where for now. IMO
I think we are talking about this too early. If he goes 7-5, 9-3, and 11-1 with three bowl wins and 40,000 regular fans in Allegiant then we have to worry. But not much till then.
Agree, too early.
But I don't think he needs to win at that high of a rate.
He's already well respected as a solid defensive guy. He's had a run at a p5 job before. If he can win 7-8 games two years in a row and go bowling at a perennial bottom feeder like UNLV it would likely get attention from a number of ADs around the country.
Any type of success here his phone starts ringing sooner than later.
Look for the Pac 2 school to settle out of court with the 10 existing schools before December 1st. Then the merger will be announced. We should find out from the playoff committee if we qualify as a P5 or G5.
One at UNLV and the other is a junior at faith Lutheran I believe. Only one session after current left
I doubt we get P5 acceptance. But with expanded playoffs that may not matter quite as much. Addition of Oregon State and WASU would position whatever the PAC/MW merger is called as argiluably the top G5 conference. Not ideal but at least if a team had a big year in the conference they have a shot at the playoff.
That may be very well true, but it also means next time UNLV needs a new coach it will be a much easier sell once a coach has proven UNLV can be turned into a winner!
I believe he’s at faith. But same thing. I saw him play vs Desert Pines. Definitely more of a runner than a passer at qb.
It's a better more appealing job than it was prior to the facility. If anybody can show that you can win here all the better.
We're way ahead of ourselves with this but.
My guess would be Marion is gone after this year for a P5 OC job. I think he's a couple years away from a HC job unless he goes FCS route (doubt he would take it) Maybe G5 school offers him?
My cousin is the nurse at faith Lutheran. Don’t they have THE Dominique Dorsey as coach there?
Not all true. In 2016 the UNLV Foundation purchased 42 acres of land on Tropicana/Koval that at the time they said could be used for an on-campus stadium. The Foundation purchased the land for $50 million.
Some donations to the Foundation are not restricted. When you donate you can decide if your money is restricted for a specific use or it can be designated unrestricted.
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We way overestimate how many G5 coaches get P5 jobs each year. A coach moving down from a previous P5 job seldom gets another chance. Looking back at previous year coaching carousels, the biggest proportion of P5 jobs go to Coordinators either moved up at the school or taken from other programs. Then there are previous P5 coaches who are out of work and currently in broadcasting or something else. Then there are NFL coordinators/ ex head coaches. Less than 5 G5 coaches get P5 jobs each year. Last year it was 2.
7-5 this year followed by 9-3 may get him a sniff. But when you look at previous G5 coaches moving up, their trajectory is usually straight up. It takes timing, connections and flat out luck to move from a G5 job to a P5 job.
Correct, but he's had a P5 job before and while his results were middling it was hardly a disaster either.
I think what your saying actually makes it less likely he would bolt. Which is a good thing if he's having success. (And let's be honest if he reaches just bowl eligibility over the next two three years that would constitute success here).
If the PAC remnants and MWC merge that will be a pretty damn good conference. Maybe lose P5 status but would probably be the top G5.
Making any move to another G5 school essentially lateral.
He's not bolting at the end of this year baring we run the table then all bets are off, lol.. but realistically he's here 2-3 years max. He's from Midwest, He's got connections to midwest/SEC, very little West Coast connections..best outlook- he will win alot of games, make job super appealing to other coaches with all our facilities, and head back to a Big 12 or SEC job. There's always 2-3 openings in those conferences and he'll get his pick
If he can accomplish that the money will be here if wants to stay. Vegas and UNLV are at that point where the city and business community are large enough and alumni base is deep enough to bring the $$. My impression of our AD is that he has the ability to raise the $$. Vegas has always been a football town imho and it will embrace a winning football program. Gamers will see the value as well. Doesn’t mean he’ll stay but we’d be well positioned.
I hope you're right. UNLV is not that far away from being relevant. I just finished watching Texas vs OU in their rivalry game. God, what a crowd. Imagine 60K+ at Allegiant.
We might reach that number this year, if things go well.
I hear that! Would be a great start. They said here in TX that it was 92k - 46k of each fan base as tradition, split in the stadium. It was a great game.
I truly think UNLV is in a great position to really bring more fans than anyone would expect.… with some more wins
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