UNLV Football: Where can we go?
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One thing to consider is that NOW the Rebels are getting the type of love from the media that has been missing. Will this increased exposure result in higher counts at the games? Could be, we'll have to wait and see. Also, remember that this game is Homecoming for UNLV.
IMO, the biggest thing they could do to increase attendance is figure out the parking/transportation system. There aren't many spots to park on site at the actual stadium parking. So everyone else needs to park somewhere else and walk. I know they have some shuttles from UNLV but I think that's more for students than general public (I could be wrong).
So where should the public park to use this? I'm sure that businesses around there don't want hundreds, or even thousands of cars parked in their lots nearby.
From the UNLV website, it says:
"The shuttle will depart from the UNLV Transit Center, near Greenspun Hall, beginning two (2) hours before kickoff. The shuttle will depart approximately every 20 minutes and will drop passengers off at Allegiant Stadium. Return service will begin 25 minutes after the end of the game and will end one (1) hour after the game.
As far as I can tell, there's not too much parking near Greenspun Hall. Where do they want people to park when using this service? Also, do they have enough shuttles to accomodate thousands of people?
I go to a couple of Auburn games each year. They have parking in lots at shopping centers and parks spread out around the city of Auburn and have shuttle busses to each of these lots. It works well and they get 75000+ for each game.
Tiger Transit Shuttle | Jordan-Hare Stadium | Auburn, Alabama
Exactly. This is what I've been saying for a while. Cater to people from different areas of town.I go to a couple of Auburn games each year. They have parking in lots at shopping centers and parks spread out around the city of Auburn and have shuttle busses to each of these lots. It works well and they get 75000+ for each game.
Tiger Transit Shuttle | Jordan-Hare Stadium | Auburn, Alabama
www.auburnstadium.com
For 1, a lot of fans drink at games, so driving to/from the strip, or even to UNLV isn't always a great idea.
In addition, if you live in Summerlin, NLV, Henderson, or wherever, and you want to do the shuttle, you have to drive 30 minutes to park somewhere near UNLV, walk to the shuttle location, wait for it, then get shuttled over. Repeat after the game but in the opposite direction.
It's great for students, or people that live right by campus, but not so much for people in other areas of town.
What do people do for raider games? They seem to not have problems getting that place filled, let alone 30k.
Parking isn't the problem here. It's interest.
I do agree that having shuttles and tailgating at the t and m parking lot seems like a no Brainer.
Just gotta keep winning. It should improve. I am legit curious what kind of turnout we will get this week.
Parking isn't the problem here. It's interest.
I do agree that having shuttles and tailgating at the t and m parking lot seems like a no Brainer.
Just gotta keep winning. It should improve. I am legit curious what kind of turnout we will get this week.
Agreed. It's an interest / demand / convenience discussion. If you're die hard, you're going no matter what. We don't have 100+ thousand die hard fans like Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, etc. We may have 10k. So then you're left trying to figure out how to get the people that are more casual fans.
First thing they should do is try to get all on campus students to the games. Even the off campus ones as well.
Then, you have to figure out how to attract the more casual fans. When games were at Sam Boyd, it was pretty easy to get to, lots of parking, and it was relatively cheap. So if there was a game you wanted to go to, it was fairly easy to make it happen. With the games at Allegiant, IMO, it's a little more effort and planning. Once you have that figured out, it's probably not too bad, but you have to get them there to realize it.
"First thing they should do is try to get all on campus students to the games."
Raffle with 10 min left in game.
1st - 5th place. Free 1 semester tuition.
6th - 10th place. $ 500.
Hell, what about an in n out gift card! That would have worked for me!
Parking on campus on Saturdays is free, even if it’s a metered parking space. There’s a huge lot right next to the Greenspun building
The public bus system runs buses from the UNLV transportation center to the game and back for $4 round trip each. Really easy to use.
I have noticed that there are numerous companies that have opened up their parking lots for UNLV game parking at a much lower price. UNLV should work with those locations to help direct people to the parking and to work on setting up a better tailgate system! It will be a lot easier to get people to come to the games if they have walking distance parking at a much lower price. Most of the casino parking is just too far away from the stadium.
Love it. Or do one at the end of each quarter. That way you need to be there for the whole game. Can't just show up at the end.
That lot looks like it holds about 200-300 cars +/-, which isn't terrible. But if they want to market it to the community as a option to bring thousands of people, that's probably not big enough. Maybe it is, I don't know. Personally, if I have to drive down to UNLV and go through all of that, I'd probably just try to find parking down by the stadium. That's also a big unknown for me though. I went to an event there a couple months ago that was 100% full. Like 65k or whatever. Parking and getting in and out was a circus. I'm sure it's no where near as bad for 25-30k people though.
Aside from the parking in the Allegiant lots, has anyone parked in other lots adjacent to it? Is it reservable, or just first come first serve, and pay in cash type of deals?
Within a 1000 feet of the UNLV transport facility are thousands of parking spaces. Making the assumption that more than 1 person comes per car, they could easily provide parking for 5K plus, and if you into the T&M parking, they could provide enough parking for everyone that goes to the game.
Where at, specifically for those thousands of spots? Is that parking around the nearby businesses? Or taking the dorm parking spots?
I agree with you and think it would be good to shift the pick up and drop off spot to the T&M personally.
There is the parking behind the UNLV transportation center (south), the parking to the south of the architecture building, as well as a large amount of parking off the main Harmon entrance to the university. Between these parking spaces you have at least a couple of thousand spaces that are all within a thousand feet. The T&M parking is also only about 1500-2000 feet from the transport center.
They should market the games as the inexpensive way to enjoy Allegiant Stadium. I suspect the Raiders would be thrilled with that idea but UNLV games really are a great way to experience the stadium without NFL prices. I don’t know what general admission costs (I pay for season tix plus RAF) but they have super low cost tix for upper level seats. Folks would come to see Allegiant and many would likely come back. It’s a rather nice facility.
The price of admission is minimally importance. Put a product out there that is worth paying for it they will. We need an escape.
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Correct... I think the stigma of taking a shuttle or bus rather than parking and returning directly to your car is still an issue in Vegas. Lots of big urban cities you park in garages around town and take a bus or light rail to Stadium.
Driving in from SoCal Friday! Homecoming with a winnable chance for a bowl game, can't resist. I know our crew will be at 20 plus with a lot of "first game of the year guys", myself included. I think last clincher was up in Air Force with freezing temperatures. This should be much more enjoyable. Watching since Nunley days.
WSU Cougar here. First off, no way in hell will the Big 12 come after UNLV after dogging WSU and OSU.
I see your TV deal runs through 2026. I Believe that WSU and OSU would significantly increase the profile of the Mtn West, especially if you fold the league and we become the Pac-13. would that save our Power 5 status? Probably not. Be interesting to see how the TV deal would unwind if the Mtn West goes away and we come.
Oh and if we did have a reverse merger, your Commissioner would become the Pac-13's, along with staff. Why we haven't fired that dipshit that we have yet I don't know.
Before and after we F-ed ourselves out of the $30M/team deal that ESPN offered, after USC and UCLA announced, I was in favor of us trying to poach SDSU and UNLV. Then the whole thing fell apart. F-ing traitors.
Many on our Board think that we should poach the best Mtn West teams and meander across the country to pick up other G5 schools. Like Tulane, Memphis and USF. My feeling is that neither your top schools or these schools clear across the country would want to buy a pig in a poke. Thats why I am for an all in Mtn West merger, even though you have a few schools that aren't all that desirable. Keep our league out West, and do the best we can with the lesser payout. Mtn West seems to be doing all right, Fresno kicked our ass in the bowl last year. This would be a no risk deal for Mtn West if taken intact. And I'm sure all of your schools would love having OSU and WSU come to town. Not sure how OSU travels, but the Cougs have always travelled well. UNLV in Vegas? In that fancy stadium? Yeah, we would show up in force.
Cheers and Go Cougs.
P. S. While most Cougs are in denial, we and OSU "fit" with the Mtn West. We are out west (duh), and many or most of us are Land Grant institutions. And I believe you have several R1 schools.
Welcome and thanks for your input Coug1. A reverse merger makes sense and adding both schools to the MW would definitely enhance the league, which does have a few R1 institutions including UNLV & UNR. BTW, kicking UNR to the curb would also enhance the league and we’d surely enjoy it. 😂
Which is possible
I'd love to think a 5-1 start would spark a little interest in town. Maybe it has but I'm skeptical it will result in much in terms of crowds.
To really get crowds out there I think they will need to have a monster rest of the season and win a bowl game. So we won't see any significant spike this year. (Hope I'm wrong)
There's just a lot of years of apathy and indifference to overcome.
I'd love to think a 5-1 start would spark a little interest in town. Maybe it has but I'm skeptical it will result in much in terms of crowds.
To really get crowds out there I think they will need to have a monster rest of the season and win a bowl game. So we won't see any significant spike this year. (Hope I'm wrong)
There's just a lot of years of apathy and indifference to overcome.
@Loyal Coug1
I'd love if WSU and OSU enhanced our league but how much do you think you'd actually do so AFTER you lose both of your main coaching staffs and best players to P5 teams next season? I'm glad to see that you're both holding your own in the Pac right now but, being realistic, your players and coaches came to your schools partially due to the P5 label.
I'm not hoping for your demise in any way. I want to make that clear. Just with the recent changes I don't see how you both don't become MWC-level schools with the decreased conference/TV money and elimination of your P5 label.
I'd love if WSU and OSU enhanced our league but how much do you think you'd actually do so AFTER you lose both of your main coaching staffs and best players to P5 teams next season? I'm glad to see that you're both holding your own in the Pac right now but, being realistic, your players and coaches came to your schools partially due to the P5 label.
I'm not hoping for your demise in any way. I want to make that clear. Just with the recent changes I don't see how you both don't become MWC-level schools with the decreased conference/TV money and elimination of your P5 label.
Thanks for the message @Loyal Coug1. I think it's terrible what the media groups did to the PAC 12. I don't know what the PAC leaders were thinking when turning down that offer. I get it that the SEC and BIG 10 are making much more, but at some point, you have to take what you can get, IMO. I sort of understand USC and UCLA jumping for the much bigger paycheck, but all the other schools were pretty close to a lateral move when you take into account all the added cost and time for travelling further for games in every sport.
As far as a merger, I'd love it. The problem from what I've seen, is knowing when the lawsuit and ownership of the PAC 12 assets will be resolved. It seems like OSU and WSU should get it all since all of the other schools have left (or are leaving), but I guess it depends on how the contracts are worded. I hope that gets resolved sooner than later, since I'd think it would take some time to get the merger worked out. Maybe they're already laying the groundwork for that in the event that the PAC assets issue gets resolved soon, but IDK.
Do you think there's at least a chance that your 2 schools will play in the PAC2 next year? Unless they get this stuff worked out soon, that seems like a possibility. And if they can get all the assets from the conference by doing so, it would be worth it. Then merge the following year.
Honestly thought the same thing about OSU and WSU losing good athletes to other P5 schools. The different sports have different transfer portal opening dates. Like a canary in a coal mine Soccer and Volleyball have transfer portal opening soon that need to be watched to see what those athletes do. November for Soccer and early December for Volleyball.
I wish OSU and WSU would get the Pac2/Pac10 issues resolved so the conferences can make decisions to see where we all end up. I don't want to see those two schools hurt with transfers if they start playing a waiting game like what George Kliakoff did trying to tell everyone if they wait for something better in media deals it will all work out better financially for them. Crock of shyt.
Glad you joined us here. You're one of the more level headed Coug fans and anything you bring over here is welcomed.
In order of precedence:
1. Secure bowl berth
2. Do better than 6 wins
3. Keep Marion
Yeah. Hell of a change from usually hoping to scrap another four wins by the end of season just to qualify for a bowl. I don’t think we’ve ever been so hot that we’ve speculated on an OC jumping ship this early in a season either. I am hoping this is the new normal.
1. Secure bowl berth
2. Do better than 6 wins
3. Keep Marion
Yeah. Hell of a change from usually hoping to scrap another four wins by the end of season just to qualify for a bowl. I don’t think we’ve ever been so hot that we’ve speculated on an OC jumping ship this early in a season either. I am hoping this is the new normal.
Couple of thoughts. First, it is becoming questionable as to whether there are any assets left (other than future NCAA distributions). It is my understanding that NCAA BB tournament revenues are distributed over 6 years? And frankly what does it matter in terms of our next steps? We need a place to land, and it ain't the Big12. Which is fine with me. Yes we might play as the Pac2 next year, but we need 11 games (or 8, not sure who we had lined up for OOC). If we go that route, my idea is to enter a "guest" agreement with the Mtn West, and fill our schedules (OSU too) with your folks. We have a two year grace period for staying Power 5. When 10,000 Cougs descend on Vegas for a game you will be happy. But we need to get off our asses and do something. This waiting for the legal shit to settle makes no sense. If we get a windfall, great. If we don't, bummer. Doesn't change a thing in terms of our future.
Agreed with your thoughts here. I just figured that the 2 schools may need to wait until the other schools are officially out before being able to merge.
There still seems to be a lot of stuff up in the air with expansion though, so who knows how it goes? Notre Dame joining the Big10 was recently announced, and it sounds like the ACC is going to be hit hard as well. Will all of the remaining ACC schools find a home if the primary players get absorbed into the Big10, SEC, and/or Big12? I doubt they will, which will probably leave another group of schools out in the cold in terms of a power 5 affiliation. It kind of seems like it's heading towards having a power 3 group of conferences, and then everyone else. It's possible that those conferences could each go up to 24 schools or something in the long run, which may then bring in the WSU/OSU type of schools, but it's all speculation for now.
Anyways, I hope the Pac2/MWC can work out a deal in both short and long term. Best of luck to you guys this year also!
I still cannot believe that both Stanford and Cal joined the ACC. MWC is rapidly changing and improving in both the facilities and academics. The MWC will eventually evolves into a power conference, IMO...unless it get poached.
In football California has mostly won 7 or less games going back over the last couple of decades with few exceptions. Stanford over all has mostly had decent to good teams, but has been pretty bad for the last 5 seasons.
In basketball California hasn't had a winning season going back to the2016-2017 season and has gone to the NCAA once in last decade, Stanford has been an up and down program going to the NCAA once in the last 15 years.
Now they are buying their way into the ACC where they will quadruple their travelling in all sports which will most likely lead to many of their Olympic sports losing recruits who would much rather player at major schools (based on football) without all of the travel, or go to a smaller program that plays regionally.
My feeling is the best way to go for schools left out west is to join the MWC with the PAC as a 14+ school conference. In the long run I personally believe that California and Stanford will end up as bottom dwellers in the ACC.
In basketball California hasn't had a winning season going back to the2016-2017 season and has gone to the NCAA once in last decade, Stanford has been an up and down program going to the NCAA once in the last 15 years.
Now they are buying their way into the ACC where they will quadruple their travelling in all sports which will most likely lead to many of their Olympic sports losing recruits who would much rather player at major schools (based on football) without all of the travel, or go to a smaller program that plays regionally.
My feeling is the best way to go for schools left out west is to join the MWC with the PAC as a 14+ school conference. In the long run I personally believe that California and Stanford will end up as bottom dwellers in the ACC.
All the focus is on Football, but the other "major" sports (Men's/Women's BB, Baseball, Volleyball) along with the minor ones will have fun flying across the country half the time. Same with the Big 10 traitors. The Big 12 traitors are closer to the other schools so their travel won't be too bad. Yeah, despite the scoffing I get on my board (you all should visit), A Pac13/14 or PacWest or whatever makes the only sense. And is basically our only option. Oh but let's sit on our hands and wait for the legal shit to settle? But the Pac2 with "guest" scheduling with the Mtn West for 2024 makes a lot of sense.
It does make a lot of sense until the TV contract runs out. Does the Beavers fanbase travel well?
As a USC (and UNLV) alum, I apologize. My dream just 5 months ago was to have UNLV in the Pac. Hell of a difference a couple of months make.
The Pac president got greedy. I for sure did not think there would be a future football state without the pac.
Don't know about the Beavs. They (and Whoregon) travelled well to Pullman, but that is driving distance.
Thats the thing about the Mtn West dissolving and joining the Pac. Wouldn't that end the TV contract? Certainly we could do better with OSU and WSU in the fold. Cougs get a lot of TV sets, despite our small town and remote location. 60% of our grads live in the Seattle area.
