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Tony's time is ticking away

BleedRebelRed90 said:
It would be highly improbable for CTS to return to high school level. If he is let go after this season UNLV will owe him for the remaining two seasons on his contract, and taking a job for less than whatever that buyout is (possibly the "base" $300K/year) would be unwise. Also, if he's banked a good portion of that (between) $3.4M - $4M of salary, he doesn't need to rush to take a job.

But more significantly CTS is a highly regarded recruiter with a lot of connections. There would be a spot on a staff somewhere for him.
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Agree.

Sanchez is a solid recruiter.

I don't know that he has a reputation as a particularly innovative offensive or defensive mind, but he has shown he can recruit relatively well.

There is always a place on a college staff for guys that can bring players in..

WR coach/recruiting coordinator type gig.

It's still early. And as down as I am on Sanchez and how this season may play out, there is still a lot of football to be played.

Clock hasn't struck 12 yet. Until it does I hope the guy turns it around..

But it sure feels like it's already 11:55...
 
Here's the dilemma with Armani.

Other not being able to pass, what makes him good is the ability to run.

Part of the RPO, is the read option run. However we rarely use this. This is nearly the only thing that makes Armani help this team win.

They scrapped it probably to save hits on Armani, but it nerfs him even more.

We don't need to be a triple option team, but we can be a read option team. If you want stick with Armani, at least allow him to do what he does best.

Meanwhile in the background, start working on a pass heavy variant with Oblad. RPO, with out the QB run option. Spread it out, work on the power running game perhaps with a FB/H back. We have the WRs for it. A decent tight end, a good enough line on paper.
 
If we are talking a new coach, I think they will need to come up with the money for a new coach north of $1 million, or we will be back in the same spot in 4-5 years again. The one thing that can help is the fact that they will be getting money as part of the deal for leaving the Sam Boyd Stadium that can be used to help find a pay for a coach. I also agree that coach Sanchez still has time to turn things around, but it is late in the evening, and based on the past history of UNLV football, it isn't looking great!
 
Bullmastiff 1 said:
If the QB can't run at all it takes all read option out of the playbook. It becomes basically dive because nobody fears the QB keep. When Armani got hurt last year the run game struggled. Sure Max threw for some yards. The end result was the same. Losses.

I'm far from a beliver in Armani. I've said for years he should not have won the job over Stanton.

But people are going crazy over Oblad making a couple nice throws in garbage time in blow outs.

I watched this kid all through Spring. For two years. He has some arm talent. But I don't think the offense is built to let him flourish.

We'll see. Maybe as soon as next week.

Not sure Northwestern, and their top 25ish defense on the road is where I would want him to make his first start..But that's me..
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A zone read and an RPO are two different philosophies. One reads whether to hand off or pass, the other reads to hand off or keep.
 
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karaoke_jesus said:
A zone read and an RPO are two different philosophies. One reads whether to hand off or pass, the other reads to hand off or keep.
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Right, but we implement a little of both. You can do both idiot!

With Oblad you eliminate the threat of the run. So no more zone read.

RPO stuff you could still use.

We don't do a ton of either. So there is that.
 
Bullmastiff 1 said:
Right, but we implement a little of both. You can do both idiot!

With Oblad you eliminate the threat of the run. So no more zone read.

RPO stuff you could still use.

We don't do a ton of either. So there is that.
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All I was saying originally was you don't have to have a mobile QB to run an RPO centric offense. I understood you to be disagreeing with that, which in turn I disagreed with your disagreement. We can disagree to disagree, I think.
 
karaoke_jesus said:
All I was saying originally was you don't have to have a mobile QB to run an RPO centric offense. I understood you to be disagreeing with that, which in turn I disagreed with your disagreement. We can disagree to disagree, I think.
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For RPO stuff you are correct.

Which it pains me to say.

Because you are the worst.

I shouldn't have lumped the two together.

All joking aside..

Good Armani like we saw vs Reno gives Rebs the best chance to win. Hands down it's not close.

Unfortunately we don't see that nearly enough.

He should be able to complete passes at a higher rate, considering he sees a lot of favorable coverages.

If he threw at a 50-55% clip the offense would be able to stay on schedule more times than not.
 
The Nevada and New Mexico (2017) Armani made a couple of rare deep throws that were on target.
That said, there is only 10% chance he will complete such throws under pressure thus you send the house and play the odds.

Also, his game versus New Mexico was his return from injury.
The Nevada game was his first start following an injury. He had gone 5-15 versus Hawaii the week before.
 
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Armani won't be our QB next year. I dont think he lasts the year at the position due to injury or inability - take your pick.

Tony hitched the wagon to Armani and is ride or die mode.
 
MonsterJam said:
Armani won't be our QB next year. I dont think he lasts the year at the position due to injury or inability - take your pick.

Tony hitched the wagon to Armani and is ride or die mode.
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If that ends up the case..

Your options next year would be Gilliam, Oblad, Grayson, Mumphrey and a true freshman.

(Barring any transfers coming in)
 
Well if Tony gets fired, then I think the QB competition will truly be open. Good chance Armani Transfers out as a grad transfer.

The new coach does not likely run a Cotton/old school Nebraska system. Since they are even more rare these days. Probably wants something signficantly more pass happy.

Not to be Debbie Downer, it's hard to see 5 more wins left this year. Hell, it is difficult to see 3 more wins. Change is very likely at this point
 
Not a Debbie Downer, @dcut03 , just being realistic.

This season I didn't believe the hype (from others and how I typically grade our players and coaches higher than they deserve). I went in thinking about 4 wins is right. I knew Armani would not be accurate on a regular basis and that he's likely to get injured at some point.

I'm not rooting for the team's demise and I would LOVE to eat some humble pie about my prognostications. I've just worked with too many throwers to know a true passer/thrower when I see one. That's why I was and still am so high on Oblad. He won't be Dan Marino this year but, with a better QB coach, could really develop into a higher level Boise type of guy.
 
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bcvegaspt said:
Not a Debbie Downer, @dcut03 , just being realistic.

This season I didn't believe the hype (from others and how I typically grade our players and coaches higher than they deserve). I went in thinking about 4 wins is right. I knew Armani would not be accurate on a regular basis and that he's likely to get injured at some point.

I'm not rooting for the team's demise and I would LOVE to eat some humble pie about my prognostications. I've just worked with too many throwers to know a true passer/thrower when I see one. That's why I was and still am so high on Oblad. He won't be Dan Marino this year but, with a better QB coach, could really develop into a higher level Boise type of guy.
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I was thinking maybe 4 wins myself.

I believe that we are probably significantly better than last year, but will have a worse schedule. You couldn't get much more favorable than last year, and we pooped the bed.

This year is much, much tougher. Not just the noncon, but the rest of the conference seems to have stepped their game up. Even with Armani consistently at his realistic best ( UNR last year) with a healthy Cotton calling plays, it would still be hard to see even bowl eligibility this season.

There was a reason we were favored in 2-4 games this season. Because that is probably accurate.
 
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The coaches and players are in full crisis mode already due to no one wanting to be the cause of anyone being fired. So there are only two extremes that are going to result from this, meaning that a "normal" season wont occur. One extreme is that we will not win any more games the entire season, OR, this ignites the team to something like an 8 and 4 or 9-3 season. Either will be a result of extreme pressure after the Ark St loss
 
Rod_the_Rebel said:
The coaches and players are in full crisis mode already due to no one wanting to be the cause of anyone being fired. So there are only two extremes that are going to result from this, meaning that a "normal" season wont occur. One extreme is that we will not win any more games the entire season, OR, this ignites the team to something like an 8 and 4 or 9-3 season. Either will be a result of extreme pressure after the Ark St loss
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When is the last time you saw a UNLV team galvanize in the face of adversity ....

I’m waiting ...
 
Pistol Pete 1 said:
1989-1991

Oh wait, that was basketball. Sorry but I can’t think of a time for FB
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Actually, when I think about it... in our Arkansas bowl win season, 2000 I think - our record sucked, but we closed out the season with 3 (?) wins and two were on the road? And each of those games was VERY tight... I think Brisco (RIP) had a game winning long interception return for a touchdown vs SDSU and it was late in the game, too. And we finished 3rd or 4th in conference and we made a bowl game ... that we actually won. Against a good team....

Memory ain't what it used to be, but what I'm recalling is correct, that team DID step up.....
 
j. spilotro said:
Actually, when I think about it... in our Arkansas bowl win season, 2000 I think - our record sucked, but we closed out the season with 3 (?) wins and two were on the road? And each of those games was VERY tight... I think Brisco (RIP) had a game winning long interception return for a touchdown vs SDSU and it was late in the game, too. And we finished 3rd or 4th in conference and we made a bowl game ... that we actually won. Against a good team....

Memory ain't what it used to be, but what I'm recalling is correct, that team DID step up.....
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Which was a cool stretch because UNLV basketball did the same thing to catch Utah and become co-champions and they beat BYU in the MWCT final... happy times, right? One of the few times the two programs found some measure of success at the same time...
 
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