Tony's time is ticking away

[ImmaRebel]

Tony put all his eggs in one basket, and Armani dropped it.

This latest fiasco still won't lead to the obvious conclusion: CHANGE YOUR STARTING QUATERBACK.

Armani's stats: 8 for 23 good for 42 yards and one real big INT (nice touch on that pass)
Oblad's stats 3 for 3 good for 70 yards and one Touchdown!!!

The last time UNLV travelled to reno, 2017 with a bowl game on the line, Rogers did what he does best he missed time after time with inaccurate passes. The most impressive win that year (and probably for UNLV under Coach Sanchez) was brought to all Rebel fans by John Stanton at Fresno State. So you would think that he would bring in the Senior QB for the 2nd half at reno for the bowl opportunity, not he stayed with the QB of the future for UNLV, Armani Rogers, and we lost. What a shock. Armani is good at snatching defeat from victory.

Tony this is your last wake up call. It's not about who you think is the QB of the future, it's about the whole team, the fans, and the entire community. If you don't want the team to give up, then quit giving up on the team, and make some big time changes. Start at the QB position, perhaps rotate them. Make the game more enjoyable for the die-hard fans, who get treated to the same old tiring reruns.

I am sorry I thought I heard something; I did its Carol King singing her best song ever. Tony you've heard it; that's right its too late

 

[RebelAlbert]

move Armani to WR and Oblad to QB and call it a day!

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Tony put all his eggs in one basket, and Armani dropped it.

This latest fiasco still won't lead to the obvious conclusion: CHANGE YOUR STARTING QUATERBACK.

Armani's stats: 8 for 23 good for 42 yards and one real big INT (nice touch on that pass)
Oblad's stats 3 for 3 good for 70 yards and one Touchdown!!!

The last time UNLV travelled to reno, 2017 with a bowl game on the line, Rogers did what he does best he missed time after time with inaccurate passes. The most impressive win that year (and probably for UNLV under Coach Sanchez) was brought to all Rebel fans by John Stanton at Fresno State. So you would think that he would bring in the Senior QB for the 2nd half at reno for the bowl opportunity, not he stayed with the QB of the future for UNLV, Armani Rogers, and we lost. What a shock. Armani is good at snatching defeat from victory.

Tony this is your last wake up call. It's not about who you think is the QB of the future, it's about the whole team, the fans, and the entire community. If you don't want the team to give up, then quit giving up on the team, and make some big time changes. Start at the QB position, perhaps rotate them. Make the game more enjoyable for the die-hard fans, who get treated to the same old tiring reruns.

I am sorry I thought I heard something; I did its Carol King singing her best song ever. Tony you've heard it; that's right its too late

Problem is this team was built to be an RPO zone read team.

If Oblad is the QB, offense has to be more spread 4/5 Wr and chuck the ball 40 times a games.

Not sure we can win shoot outs like that.

 

[Rebelious1]

Tony put all his eggs in one basket, and Armani dropped it.

This latest fiasco still won't lead to the obvious conclusion: CHANGE YOUR STARTING QUATERBACK.

Armani's stats: 8 for 23 good for 42 yards and one real big INT (nice touch on that pass)
Oblad's stats 3 for 3 good for 70 yards and one Touchdown!!!

The last time UNLV travelled to reno, 2017 with a bowl game on the line, Rogers did what he does best he missed time after time with inaccurate passes. The most impressive win that year (and probably for UNLV under Coach Sanchez) was brought to all Rebel fans by John Stanton at Fresno State. So you would think that he would bring in the Senior QB for the 2nd half at reno for the bowl opportunity, not he stayed with the QB of the future for UNLV, Armani Rogers, and we lost. What a shock. Armani is good at snatching defeat from victory.

Tony this is your last wake up call. It's not about who you think is the QB of the future, it's about the whole team, the fans, and the entire community. If you don't want the team to give up, then quit giving up on the team, and make some big time changes. Start at the QB position, perhaps rotate them. Make the game more enjoyable for the die-hard fans, who get treated to the same old tiring reruns.

I am sorry I thought I heard something; I did its Carol King singing her best song ever. Tony you've heard it; that's right its too late

Problem is this team was built to be an RPO zone read team.

If Oblad is the QB, offense has to be more spread 4/5 Wr and chuck the ball 40 times a games.

Not sure we can win shoot outs like that.

Can we run an RPO without the ability to P? I think we saw that tonight.

 

[Deleted member 308]

DRF wants him gone. He was a dead man walking when he chose Armani’s potential over Stanton and a bowl game.

 

[Pistol Pete 1]

Problem is this team was built to be an RPO zone read team.

If Oblad is the QB, offense has to be more spread 4/5 Wr and chuck the ball 40 times a games.

Not sure we can win shoot outs like that.

So are you suggesting we choose the insanity route? Keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Just curious.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Can we run an RPO without the ability to P? I think we saw that tonight.

Should be able to.

That's all on Sanchez. Establish the run. Instead he comes out chucking it..

Offense sees plenty of favorable coverages because the Rebs can run the ball.

For the record I'm the guy that said Stanton deserved the job two years ago based on camp. He got shafted. Promises were made to Armani. Sanchez made that bed he can lay in it.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

So are you suggesting we choose the insanity route? Keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Just curious.

Square peg round hole if you go to Oblad.

Stanton deserved the job two years ago. You know it. I know it. We both saw it. Offense is built around a QB that can threaten with his legs.

Oblad can't.

We aren't going to win shoot outs.

This is a 4 maybe 5 win team regardless of the QB.

 

[Pistol Pete 1]

We will just have to disagree. We aren’t even using 1/2 of the playbook with Armani in and I feel that a passer that’s not a good runner can loosen up the defense easier than a QB that can run but can’t pass.

 

[karaoke_jesus]

QB doesn’t have to be a threat with his legs to run an RPO heavy offense.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

We will just have to disagree. We aren’t even using 1/2 of the playbook with Armani in and I feel that a passer that’s not a good runner can loosen up the defense easier than a QB that can run but can’t pass.

Pete the playbook shrinks either way.

Take Army. Completely out manned by Michigan. No four or five star athletes. Can't red shirt players to developed them. Can't recruit top guys because of the military commitment.

What do they do? They play an offense predicated to their strengths. Run the ball, control the clock.

Last year they took Oklahoma and the Heisman Trophy winner to OT. Today they took #7 Michigan to overtime because they have a coach that believes in one thing. We will do what we do well. We will not deviate. It's about us. Not them.

Sanchez deserves 100% of the blame tonight. Run the ##$%^&* ball. Control the clock.

Keep the defense off the field.

Instead Sanchez decided to make this the Armani feel good/redemption game and chuck the ball all over the field. That's on him. This is as much on poor coaching and game planning as it is execution.

Play to your teams strengths. Sanchez did not and he did a disservice to his players.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

QB doesn’t have to be a threat with his legs to run an RPO heavy offense.

If the QB can't run at all it takes all read option out of the playbook. It becomes basically dive because nobody fears the QB keep. When Armani got hurt last year the run game struggled. Sure Max threw for some yards. The end result was the same. Losses.

I'm far from a beliver in Armani. I've said for years he should not have won the job over Stanton.

But people are going crazy over Oblad making a couple nice throws in garbage time in blow outs.

I watched this kid all through Spring. For two years. He has some arm talent. But I don't think the offense is built to let him flourish.

We'll see. Maybe as soon as next week.

Not sure Northwestern, and their top 25ish defense on the road is where I would want him to make his first start..But that's me..

 

[rebneck]

Nobody says KO would have to throw 40 times a game. We do have running backs. We just establish a traditional running game, or at least attempt to. RPO is really just RRO with Armani. It's a losing proposition with him in there if we have to come from behind, and we will always have to come from behind unless our defense suddenly starts pitching shutouts, and that ain't happening. Status quo will not cut it. End of story.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Nobody says KO would have to throw 40 times a game. We do have running backs. We just establish a traditional running game, or at least attempt to. RPO is really just RRO with Armani. It's a losing proposition with him in there if we have to come from behind, and we will always have to come from behind unless our defense suddenly starts pitching shutouts, and that ain't happening. Status quo will not cut it. End of story.

But you would have to open it up more.

Take a look at Lex' numbers last year when Armani got hurt. Without the threat of Armani running Lex' production took at hit. Can we still run the ball with Oblad? Sure but not as well as with Armani.

Rebs weren't nearly as good in a traditional running game last year.

If Oblad comes in it looks very similar to what things looked like with Gilliam last year.

I'm not sure the defense has improved enough to win games like that.

 

[Deleted member 308]

Tony put all his eggs in one basket, and Armani dropped it.

I disagree that Armani dropped it. He has been misdeveloped and it isn’t his fault. He was named the starter too early and was encouraged to run first, through defenders, never looking to slide or to toss it away. He can’t throw on the move, but the staff likes his creativity on the scramble.

 

[Couev]

Sanchez deserves 100% of the blame tonight. Run the ##$%^&* ball. Control the clock.

Keep the defense off the field.

Play to your teams strengths. Sanchez did not and he did a disservice to his players.

This is a great idea, except their DL just manhandled us most of the night. Linebackers were running free to make plays laterally and safeties were cheating up to support the run and take away the middle of the field for passing. This isn't the option of the Academies where you are running wing T and flexbone sets and a triple option. This is a RPO system without a P that isn't reliable. Armani and the RBs have enough talent to make some runs but eventually with 8 in the box and a MLB or SS spy on the QB you have to throw the ball in this offense. Not doing so is like running the triple option without letting the QB toss on the wide read. You'll get some success with dives and keeps, and even the occasional reverse or counter, but if you have nothing to attack the wide part of the defense, the defense can and will condense and stop you.

Would going to a more traditional spread offense leave us without the threat of the QB run? Sure. But you can also open up the running game with an accurate short to mid range passing game. Was Max a better passer than Armani last year? Yes. Undoubtedly. But he was still a 55% completion guy. That's not good enough for a traditional spread type offense, even though it was 11% better than Armani. If Oblad can convert over 60%, then it changes how defenses have to cover us. RPO is sexy as hell when you have an accurate passer who is a threat with his legs, but we just aren't pulling it off against well coached opposition.

 

[Pistol Pete 1]

If the QB can't run at all it takes all read option out of the playbook. It becomes basically dive because nobody fears the QB keep. When Armani got hurt last year the run game struggled. Sure Max threw for some yards. The end result was the same. Losses.

I'm far from a beliver in Armani. I've said for years he should not have won the job over Stanton.

But people are going crazy over Oblad making a couple nice throws in garbage time in blow outs.

I watched this kid all through Spring. For two years. He has some arm talent. But I don't think the offense is built to let him flourish.

We'll see. Maybe as soon as next week.

Not sure Northwestern, and their top 25ish defense on the road is where I would want him to make his first start..But that's me..

I disagree with your assessment that the playbook would shrink either way. RPO gives the QB the ability to see how the safeties react before deciding to complete the hand off or pull it back and pass the ball. Plenty of teams run some RPO without having a good running QB.

AR is incapable of reading anything so the RPO for him is either the RB runs or he runs. It’s not a RB run or QB run option it’s a RUN or PASS option. A much more effective pass option exists with Oblad.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

This is a great idea, except their DL just manhandled us most of the night. Linebackers were running free to make plays laterally and safeties were cheating up to support the run and take away the middle of the field for passing. This isn't the option of the Academies where you are running wing T and flexbone sets and a triple option. This is a RPO system without a P that isn't reliable. Armani and the RBs have enough talent to make some runs but eventually with 8 in the box and a MLB or SS spy on the QB you have to throw the ball in this offense. Not doing so is like running the triple option without letting the QB toss on the wide read. You'll get some success with dives and keeps, and even the occasional reverse or counter, but if you have nothing to attack the wide part of the defense, the defense can and will condense and stop you.

Would going to a more traditional spread offense leave us without the threat of the QB run? Sure. But you can also open up the running game with an accurate short to mid range passing game. Was Max a better passer than Armani last year? Yes. Undoubtedly. But he was still a 55% completion guy. That's not good enough for a traditional spread type offense, even though it was 11% better than Armani. If Oblad can convert over 60%, then it changes how defenses have to cover us. RPO is sexy as hell when you have an accurate passer who is a threat with his legs, but we just aren't pulling it off against well coached opposition.

Your last sentence is maybe the key point to all of this...


I'll say it again.

If Oblad starts, things will look very similar to what it did with Gilliam.

Obviously we don't run what the Acadamies do. But this team is built to run the ball.

If you remove the threat of Armani running, the run game overall will suffer. It did last year. It would this year.

I don't think the Rebs can beat people straight up in the run game consistently like that. Even from the spread. They couldn't last year with Gilliam.

If the offense becomes more pass oriented, it means the defense probably sees the field more.

You see anything from last night that tells you it can hold up if forced to log more snaps?

I'm not opposed to Oblad starting. I just don't think it improves the chance of winning significantly.

Although I don't think it would be a good idea to make his first start vs a very good Northwestern defense on the road. Maybe wait till Wyoming..

I'll see ya in Chicago...

 

[Pistol Pete 1]

In other news Dalton Sneed was 24-38 for 269 yds, 1 TD & no interceptions. Another UNLV QB that could throw the ball and not given a shot due to the arrival of CTS’s QB of the future.

 

[Pistol Pete 1]

Believe it or not, being the glutton for punishment that I am I will be making the trip to Chicago this week and will give you a first hand account of either Armani’s improvement or lack thereof or Oblad’s performance.

Regardless I am gonna have a nice steak Friday night and some good Chicago style pizza at some point in the trip. Maybe Thursday night!

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

I disagree with your assessment that the playbook would shrink either way. RPO gives the QB the ability to see how the safeties react before deciding to complete the hand off or pull it back and pass the ball. Plenty of teams run some RPO without having a good running QB.

AR is incapable of reading anything so the RPO for him is either the RB runs or he runs. It’s not a RB run or QB run option it’s a RUN or PASS option. A much more effective pass option exists with Oblad.

Pete we run some zone read stuff.

Can Oblad run that? Are teams going to be worried about him running?

No.

So they will key the running back. We saw this with Gilliam last year. The offense has to change.

Are you going to have designed runs for Oblad?

No. So that means the playbook shrinks. A lot of the running game can't be used.

Sure maybe you can open up the passing game. I'm fine with that.

I'm fine with Oblad starting. I've said numerous times he can sling the ball and is probably the most accurate passer we have.

But if he starts, I think the defense ends up seeing the field more.

I just don't think it can hold up.

I'm not against the guy getting the job.

But I'm not sure it will matter.

Maybe he can be the spark the Rebs need..

 

[Couev]

If Oblad starts, things will look very similar to what it did with Gilliam.

If he throws at a 55% clip like Gilliam, then you're 100% right. From what I've seen he seems to throw a bit of a more catchable ball than Gilliiam, but that's a very limited sample size

I don't think the Rebs can beat people straight up in the run game consistently like that. Even from the spread. They couldn't last year with Gilliam.

Yeah, you would have to really run things beside the read option but I would argue that if you could throw the ball well on first down, you open the playbook up and force a defense to be a little more honest.

If the offense becomes more pass oriented, it means the defense probably sees the field more.

You see anything from last night that tells you it can hold up if forced to log more snaps?

I'm not opposed to Oblad starting. I just don't think it improves the chance of winning significantly.

3 and out is 3 and out. When we're not successful on first down this offense instantly starts shitting itself because we can't throw. Last night, if you take away the CJ 78 yard rumble we got 2.6 yards a carry. That's not running the ball. Armani throwing for 35% completion and 1.8 yards a completion in addition to that is really telling. Teams can take away what you do best when you can't do anything else. There's only so much the read option will fool people when you can afford to bring up the SS as a QB spy because we literally can't throw the ball downfield.

I'm not sure Oblad is the answer, and I really don't like throwing a Freshman into a road game against an athletic B10 defense, but at a certain point you have to be willing to give the kid a few series when you're constantly shitting the bed with your starter....and not when you're down 30+. I think that's my point. Starting the Kid is probably not the answer, but not giving him a chance when Armani can't hit the broad side of a barn just seems like insanity.

And our defense is brutal everywhere besides at LB. However, if you can't stay on the field does it matter if you're running or throwing. We need points against good teams.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

If he throws at a 55% clip like Gilliam, then you're 100% right. From what I've seen he seems to throw a bit of a more catchable ball than Gilliiam, but that's a very limited sample size




Yeah, you would have to really run things beside the read option but I would argue that if you could throw the ball well on first down, you open the playbook up and force a defense to be a little more honest.



3 and out is 3 and out. When we're not successful on first down this offense instantly starts shitting itself because we can't throw. Last night, if you take away the CJ 78 yard rumble we got 2.6 yards a carry. That's not running the ball. Armani throwing for 35% completion and 1.8 yards a completion in addition to that is really telling. Teams can take away what you do best when you can't do anything else. There's only so much the read option will fool people when you can afford to bring up the SS as a QB spy because we literally can't throw the ball downfield.

I'm not sure Oblad is the answer, and I really don't like throwing a Freshman into a road game against an athletic B10 defense, but at a certain point you have to be willing to give the kid a few series when you're constantly shitting the bed with your starter....and not when you're down 30+. I think that's my point. Starting the Kid is probably not the answer, but not giving him a chance when Armani can't hit the broad side of a barn just seems like insanity.

And our defense is brutal everywhere besides at LB. However, if you can't stay on the field does it matter if you're running or throwing. We need points against good teams.

To be clear.

I'm not opposed to Oblad starting.

With Oblad you have to play more straight up in the run game. I'm not sure we can win those battles consistently.

Its not about his short comings per say, but overall short comings of the team.

Armani played a fantastic game vs Reno last year.

That Armani gives the Rebs the best chance to win of any QB on the roster.

Unfortunately we can't count on that at this point.

So maybe it's time to go another way.

Maybe he sparks something.

Grand scheme, I don't think it matters though.

 

[VegasKC SDM]

Exactly, Couev. We have to move the chains however we can. The passing plays called for Armani are so dumbed down and he still can't execute. I don't care if we have to pass every down with someone else or put the ball under our shirt and run, the focus needs to be moving the chains. That's what our defense needs.

In limited garbage work, KO has already had a handful of plays that have me saying, "Armani can't do that" even if he was the one taking the garbage snap at that moment. It could be a read, a progression, subtle movements and mechanics, the delivery, the decisions. I'm not sure Armani's development has been blown, but rather that he's just not develop-able in that aspect of the game. There's a difference. It's not ever going to be who he is, and the best QB coach with the best OC in the world is not going to be able to fix it. In basketball comparison, it would be like trying to develop Lou Amundson as a wing player. Armani will never be competent enough in the passing game to be effective against a top 100 FBS team. I don't see any upside to keeping him at starter unless it's to share duties with another until that person proves they are to be the clear #1. If that never materializes, then we go 2 QB system to take the pressure off Armani. His confidence is trending down.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Exactly, Couev. We have to move the chains however we can. The passing plays called for Armani are so dumbed down and he still can't execute. I don't care if we have to pass every down with someone else or put the ball under our shirt and run, the focus needs to be moving the chains. That's what our defense needs.

In limited garbage work, KO has already had a handful of plays that have me saying, "Armani can't do that" even if he was the one taking the garbage snap at that moment. It could be a read, a progression, subtle movements and mechanics, the delivery, the decisions. I'm not sure Armani's development has been blown, but rather that he's just not develop-able in that aspect of the game. There's a difference. It's not ever going to be who he is, and the best QB coach with the best OC in the world is not going to be able to fix it. In basketball comparison, it would be like trying to develop Lou Amundson as a wing player. Armani will never be competent enough in the passing game to be effective against a top 100 FBS team. I don't see any upside to keeping him at starter unless it's to share duties with another until that person proves they are to be the clear #1. If that never materializes, then we go 2 QB system to take the pressure off Armani. His confidence is trending down.

True but when Armani breaks off a 70 yard run you have to think 'Oblad can't do that'..


Maybe he gives the Rebs the best chance to win..

But after watching him for every Spring practice for two years don't expect miracles.

Think slight improvement over what we saw with Gilliam at the helm last year..

 

[BleedRebelRed90]

Tony put all his eggs in one basket, and Armani dropped it.

This latest fiasco still won't lead to the obvious conclusion: CHANGE YOUR STARTING QUATERBACK.

Armani's stats: 8 for 23 good for 42 yards and one real big INT (nice touch on that pass)
Oblad's stats 3 for 3 good for 70 yards and one Touchdown!!!

The last time UNLV travelled to reno, 2017 with a bowl game on the line, Rogers did what he does best he missed time after time with inaccurate passes. The most impressive win that year (and probably for UNLV under Coach Sanchez) was brought to all Rebel fans by John Stanton at Fresno State. So you would think that he would bring in the Senior QB for the 2nd half at reno for the bowl opportunity, not he stayed with the QB of the future for UNLV, Armani Rogers, and we lost. What a shock. Armani is good at snatching defeat from victory.

Tony this is your last wake up call. It's not about who you think is the QB of the future, it's about the whole team, the fans, and the entire community. If you don't want the team to give up, then quit giving up on the team, and make some big time changes. Start at the QB position, perhaps rotate them. Make the game more enjoyable for the die-hard fans, who get treated to the same old tiring reruns.

I am sorry I thought I heard something; I did its Carol King singing her best song ever. Tony you've heard it; that's right its too late

You lost me at the Carol King music reference.

I don't think you can single out Armani Rogers as much as the overall offensive scheming and play-calling.

I did not make it to the SUU game last week, and I missed UNR to end last season, so the last four UNLV games I have endured at Sam Boyd:

• Arkansas State... as Arkansas State got their largest margin of victory in a road game since at least the 1990's. Rogers struggled badly, and it was clear from the opening pick-6 that Ark St had it all figured out from last season how to defend against UNLV and Armani.
• Fresno 48-3 loss... Gilliam and Oblad combined for 15/35 passing for 105 yards.
• Air Force... Don't be fooled by the "respectable" 41-35 score - UNLV trailed 41-21 with 5 minutes left but AF got sloppy and fumbled a couple times. QB play for UNLV was OK in that game.
• UNM.... UNM led 36-0 entering the 4th quarter on the way to a 52-14 blowout. Most of UNLV's passing yardage was in the meaningless 4th quarter, as Gilliam had 7 of his 15 completions and 100 of his 123 yards on the last 4 drives of the game. UNLV was 15/35 passing for 123 yards in that game. Gilliam's first 8 completions netted 23 total yards, and that was on about 25 attempts.

So in those previous 3 games I was at Armani Rogers didn't play and we were thinking if we had him maybe every series wouldn't be a 3-and-out and we could go for it when we had 4th-and-2.

The solution? Maybe a two-quarterback system, change of pace to force defenses to adapt more? That change is what got UNLV the late TD... Arkansas St wasn't going to change their defensive scheme when they were leading 43-10 in the closing minutes.

 

[Rebelbacker]

To be clear.

I'm not opposed to Oblad starting.

With Oblad you have to play more straight up in the run game. I'm not sure we can win those battles consistently.

Its not about his short comings per say, but overall short comings of the team.

Armani played a fantastic game vs Reno last year.

That Armani gives the Rebs the best chance to win of any QB on the roster.

Unfortunately we can't count on that at this point.

So maybe it's time to go another way.

Maybe he sparks something.

Grand scheme, I don't think it matters though.

You are right on everything you said. Armani isn't a QB. There is a reason every other school didn't want him to play QB and we did.

Oblad is the new shiny toy that people have seen in garbage time and think that he can be better than what we have. But like you I've been at practice and scrimmages and seen Oblad plenty of times. He has a live arm but is certainly not the answer. The playbook gets dramatically smaller with him and the run threat is far reduced. Defenses can key on Chuck in the run game. I agree this would be a repeat of last year.

That being said Armani is a disaster. I wouldn't start Oblad next week. I'd start Armani and give him a few series. If he falters play Oblad and see what he has. Giving the kid his first start on the road at a Big Ten school isn't the best for his confidence.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

You are right on everything you said. Armani isn't a QB. There is a reason every other school didn't want him to play QB and we did.

Oblad is the new shiny toy that people have seen in garbage time and think that he can be better than what we have. But like you I've been at practice and scrimmages and seen Oblad plenty of times. He has a live arm but is certainly not the answer. The playbook gets dramatically smaller with him and the run threat is far reduced. Defenses can key on Chuck in the run game. I agree this would be a repeat of last year.

That being said Armani is a disaster. I wouldn't start Oblad next week. I'd start Armani and give him a few series. If he falters play Oblad and see what he has. Giving the kid his first start on the road at a Big Ten school isn't the best for his confidence.

If we got Reno Armani from last year. This team goes bowling.

But he's simply too erratic.

 

[willlevi]

But you would have to open it up more.

Take a look at Lex' numbers last year when Armani got hurt. Without the threat of Armani running Lex' production took at hit. Can we still run the ball with Oblad? Sure but not as well as with Armani.

Rebs weren't nearly as good in a traditional running game last year.

If Oblad comes in it looks very similar to what things looked like with Gilliam last year.

I'm not sure the defense has improved enough to win games like that.

Lex was a speed back with no power and a lack of size. He couldn't play though contact but Charles Williams is a more complete back. Williams can actually be effective without Rogers.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Lex was a speed back with no power and a lack of size. He couldn't play though contact but Charles Williams is a more complete back. Williams can actually be effective without Rogers.

I'm not so sure Will. I think a lot of the success in the run game was predicated on defenses having to account for Rogers.

I like Chuck a ton. But I'm not sure the run game has nearly the same success if the Rebs are forced to play more straight up without the zone read stuff.

Who knows...

All I know is last night was extremely disappointing.

 

[RebelSoldat]

I cannot believe people are actually still defending Tony Sanchez and Armani Rogers...

 

[Rebel1986]

If Armani had any passing game last night, Arkansas would not have been totally keyed in on the running game, which would have allowed Charles Williams a chance to get even more yards. I think at this point Sanchez can choose to roll the dice with another QB, or he can look to get his resume ready for an assistant coaching job at another school. I feel like I got suckered again and wasted my money on season tickets!

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

I cannot believe people are actually still defending Tony Sanchez and Armani Rogers...

It's not so much defending Armani as it is the other options probably don't enhance our chances to win all that much.

You'll get no defense of Sanchez from me..

 

[Pistol Pete 1]

It's not so much defending Armani as it is the other options probably don't enhance our chances to win all that much.

You'll get no defense of Sanchez from me..

Even if it doesn’t enhance our chances to win it sure as hell can’t hurt.
More room to the upside than the downside.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Even if it doesn’t enhance our chances to win it sure as hell can’t hurt.
More room to the upside than the downside.

At this point no...

Not sure I would make the switch vs Northwestern though. Wait until Wyoming game..

 

[Pistol Pete 1]

At this point no...

Not sure I would make the switch vs Northwestern though. Wait until Wyoming game..

I watched the NW vs Stanford game and I wasn’t all that impressed. They were very vanilla and looked like they were built more to stop the run than the pass.

But I have a strange feeling that DRF did not like being shut down on her attempted FB coaching change last year and would be more than willing to make an immediate change should we suffer another monumental blow out at NW.

At the Aria 2 days before the season opener she put the spotlight squarely on OTZ & Jenkins (who can’t even play for a year) and not so much on CTS & football. CTS got 5 minutes and Otz got about 15.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

I watched the NW vs Stanford game and I wasn’t all that impressed. They were very vanilla and looked like they were built more to stop the run than the pass.

But I have a strange feeling that DRF did not like being shut down on her attempted FB coaching change last year and would be more than willing to make an immediate change should we suffer another monumental blow out at NW.

At the Aria 2 days before the season opener she put the spotlight squarely on OTZ & Jenkins (who can’t even play for a year) and not so much on CTS & football. CTS got 5 minutes and Otz got about 15.

They are stingy giving up only 23 ppg. Very good vs the run.

Not flashy. But disciplined and sound.

I wanted him out but understood need to get facility done.

Seasons not over. Maybe Tony can rally the troops. But last night didn't inspire any confidence.

 

[Catmstr]

If Armani had any passing game last night, Arkansas would not have been totally keyed in on the running game, which would have allowed Charles Williams a chance to get even more yards. I think at this point Sanchez can choose to roll the dice with another QB, or he can look to get his resume ready for an assistant coaching job at another school. I feel like I got suckered again and wasted my money on season tickets!

I don’t think Sanchez will get a job as an assistant for any college team. He will probably go back to high school.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

If Armani had any passing game last night, Arkansas would not have been totally keyed in on the running game, which would have allowed Charles Williams a chance to get even more yards. I think at this point Sanchez can choose to roll the dice with another QB, or he can look to get his resume ready for an assistant coaching job at another school. I feel like I got suckered again and wasted my money on season tickets!

You didn't get suckered.

You're a degenerate lifer like myself. You talked yourself into believing things would get better just like I do every single year.

We both know better...

And yet here we are...

 

[BleedRebelRed90]

I don’t think Sanchez will get a job as an assistant for any college team. He will probably go back to high school.

It would be highly improbable for CTS to return to high school level. If he is let go after this season UNLV will owe him for the remaining two seasons on his contract, and taking a job for less than whatever that buyout is (possibly the "base" $300K/year) would be unwise. Also, if he's banked a good portion of that (between) $3.4M - $4M of salary, he doesn't need to rush to take a job.

But more significantly CTS is a highly regarded recruiter with a lot of connections. There would be a spot on a staff somewhere for him.