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There is no written agreement or contract or declaration or any other document or form that says UNLV and Reno are joined at the hip in any conference talks.

Why the sudden talking point that were a package deal? Where did that come from? The realignment discussion has been ongoing for a decade and none of this came up. What is going on with our administration?
 
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Rosegreen1 said:
There is no written agreement or contract or declaration or any other document or form that says UNLV and Reno are joined at the hip in any conference talks.

Why the sudden talking point that were a package deal? Where did that come from? The realignment discussion has been ongoing for a decade and none of this came up. What is going on with our administration?
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I know there’s not. UNR always tagged along. They can’t get anywhere on their own merit. Not saying we’ve crushed it in the fields of play, but everything else, UNLV is miles ahead (city, name, tourism, sports capital, venues, teeth, etc).

Regents voting against UNLV bettering themselves should be fired and sued.
 
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I know there’s not. UNR always tagged along. They can’t get anywhere on their own merit. Not saying we’ve crushed it in the fields of play, but everything else, UNLV is miles ahead (city, name, tourism, sports capital, venues, teeth, etc).

Regents voting against UNLV bettering themselves should be fired and sued.
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If they have no teeth then what is the hold up I wonder..(The Regents not the populace of Reno)
 
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Rosegreen1 said:
There is no written agreement or contract or declaration or any other document or form that says UNLV and Reno are joined at the hip in any conference talks.

Why the sudden talking point that were a package deal? Where did that come from? The realignment discussion has been ongoing for a decade and none of this came up. What is going on with our administration?
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There are NSHE bylaws that discuss conference changes. You are right, there is nothing that says UNLV and Reno need to be in the same conference. The BOR doesn't even really have power to block a change the Chancellor and President ratify.

This is the BOR talking out loud, but there is little the BOR could do to block UNLV from going to a different conference.
 
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If they have no teeth then what is the hold up I wonder..(The Regents not the populace of Reno)
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I don’t know. The only thing I think of is the unlv admin saving face and doing so by dumping it on Reno.

The other thing is Reno President Sandoval placed a call and somehow used some leverage (future budget discussions?) to get unlv to hold off. I don’t know. It doesn’t make any sense, this conference realignment discussion has been going on for years and out of left field we were blocked by Reno? Doesn’t make any sense.
 
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The board of regents have always favored Reno over Las Vegas from everything. It has shifted some of the last 10-14 years, but there is a history of favoring UNR over UNLV. I think the comment about Sandoval is relevant, he still wields influence being a former governor and a skilled politician.
 
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Rosegreen1 said:
I don’t know. The only thing I think of is the unlv admin saving face and doing so by dumping it on Reno.

The other thing is Reno President Sandoval placed a call and somehow used some leverage (future budget discussions?) to get unlv to hold off. I don’t know. It doesn’t make any sense, this conference realignment discussion has been going on for years and out of left field we were blocked by Reno? Doesn’t make any sense.
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(My post isn't directed at you just a general rant)

Hold off for what though?

The MWC is done. There are not 2 or 3 or 4 schools that the MWC can add that can replace what we lost and attract any type of media deal.

NMSU? UTSA? Rice?

Memphis ain't leaving AAC for the leftover MWC.

MWC will be looking at a similiar deal to what CUSA is getting. Peanuts.

Not only that, no way AFA sticks around now. Have to imagine they go to the AAC.

So instead of letting one school move into a more lucrative conference (potentially), both schools are going to suffer and become more obsolete.

Brilliant.
 
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reagan21 said:
There are NSHE bylaws that discuss conference changes. You are right, there is nothing that says UNLV and Reno need to be in the same conference. The BOR doesn't even really have power to block a change the Chancellor and President ratify.

This is the BOR talking out loud, but there is little the BOR could do to block UNLV from going to a different conference.
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So that begs the question, and pardon' my france'

WTF is the holdup/deal then.
 
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Bullmastiff 1 said:
So that begs the question, and pardon' my france'

WTF is the holdup/deal then.
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These negotiation have been going on for several weeks now. We the. general public just didn't know about until Wed/Thr. Here we are still standing in the middle of a rain storm holding our crotch.
 
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j. spilotro said:
I know there’s not. UNR always tagged along. They can’t get anywhere on their own merit. Not saying we’ve crushed it in the fields of play, but everything else, UNLV is miles ahead (city, name, tourism, sports capital, venues, teeth, etc).

Regents voting against UNLV bettering themselves should be fired and sued.
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This is the quote from Byron Brooks, member of the NSHE - Board of Regents..."It would be very difficult for UNLV to make a move into another conference without UNR because that should be a package deal. And then the financial obligations that these campuses have in moving from one conference to another...I'm not sure that UNLV and UNR are in a place to spend that type of money to move into another conference. You know what is a shame? Brooks is a Las Vegas native who is now residing in Las Vegas. Reno trying to keep UNLV under their wing and/or influence is not new. It started when UNLV started and UNR wanted to keep us as a branch of UNR. For years, they blocked us from having our own medical school. Last, but not least, when we got donations to build the Thomas & Mack Center, we could only build it, if Reno got their own, new arena. Just a note that I've always been annoyed about. Brooks referred to Reno as UNR, not Nevada. Nevada is not the formal name for Reno. UNR is. They only changed to Nevada when they could not sell the name of their University as UNR to recruits.
 
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This is the quote from Byron Brooks, member of the NSHE - Board of Regents..."It would be very difficult for UNLV to make a move into another conference without UNR because that should be a package deal. And then the financial obligations that these campuses have in moving from one conference to another...I'm not sure that UNLV and UNR are in a place to spend that type of money to move into another conference. You know what is a shame? Brooks is a Las Vegas native who is now residing in Las Vegas. Reno trying to keep UNLV under their wing and/or influence is not new. It started when UNLV started and UNR wanted to keep us as a branch of UNR. For years, they blocked us from having our own medical school. Last, but not least, when we got donations to build the Thomas & Mack Center, we could only build it, if Reno got their own, new arena. Just a note that I've always been annoyed about. Brooks referred to Reno as UNR, not Nevada. Nevada is not the formal name for Reno. UNR is. They only changed to Nevada when they could not sell the name of their University as UNR to recruits.
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Yup, we old timers that have been around forever know very well how reno and their BOR has always held us back.
 
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ckfitz said:
This is the quote from Byron Brooks, member of the NSHE - Board of Regents..."It would be very difficult for UNLV to make a move into another conference without UNR because that should be a package deal. And then the financial obligations that these campuses have in moving from one conference to another...I'm not sure that UNLV and UNR are in a place to spend that type of money to move into another conference. You know what is a shame? Brooks is a Las Vegas native who is now residing in Las Vegas. Reno trying to keep UNLV under their wing and/or influence is not new. It started when UNLV started and UNR wanted to keep us as a branch of UNR. For years, they blocked us from having our own medical school. Last, but not least, when we got donations to build the Thomas & Mack Center, we could only build it, if Reno got their own, new arena. Just a note that I've always been annoyed about. Brooks referred to Reno as UNR, not Nevada. Nevada is not the formal name for Reno. UNR is. They only changed to Nevada when they could not sell the name of their University as UNR to recruits.
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Look at his choice of words. ". . .should be a package deal." He knows there's nothing requiring it.

We've only been in the same conference with Reno for the following years:

92-95 (Big West)
12-24 (Mtn West)

It was never a problem in every.other.year. of our programs' histories. The BOR and Reno know they have no legal basis to keep us together. We left them in the Big West. We left the WAC before they entered. We will leave them again.
 
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reagan21 said:
Look at his choice of words. ". . .should be a package deal." He knows there's nothing requiring it.

We've only been in the same conference with Reno for the following years:

92-95 (Big West)
12-24 (Mtn West)

It was never a problem in every.other.year. of our programs' histories. The BOR and Reno know they have no legal basis to keep us together. We left them in the Big West. We left the WAC before they entered. We will leave them again.
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Exactly. As soon as I saw “should” … it’s not about feelings, folks, it never should be.
 
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Something in the back of my mind, I seem to remember that the Regents gave us problem with a coach that we were trying to hire. Does anyone remember something like that? Or should I throw that thought into my trash can?
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Both with Beard and Menzies.

I know Menzies is a bad name around here but he did have a funny line in the BOR meeting.

One of the Regents popped off trying to make Menzies contract about race since Beard was offered more. To his credit Menzies answered back 'I have an economics degree I'm comfortable with that number, it's a fair salary' (paraphrasing a bit but something like that).

They are the worst.
 
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There are NSHE bylaws that discuss conference changes. You are right, there is nothing that says UNLV and Reno need to be in the same conference. The BOR doesn't even really have power to block a change the Chancellor and President ratify.

This is the BOR talking out loud, but there is little the BOR could do to block UNLV from going to a different conference.
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They also have to approve UNLV's budget. The Presidents of both schools report to the Regents also.
 
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