There is a difference

[WarthogRebel]

Whenever there is a tie game each team can look back on a dozen or more plays that would have tipped the regulation score in their favor. These are INTERNAL issues. Both Syracuse and the Rebels had them. A fumble, missed interception, dropped pass, bad coaching decision. Each one of these could have swayed the game. But in this game there were several EXTERNAL issues (15 yard drive extending or drive killing penalties). I read a number of posters who are trying to downplay the EXTERNAL factors by saying all we needed to do was complete one internal play or extinguish one internal mistake. But either team could say this. Just UNLV had multiple questionable calls that essentially stacked the deck against them. Could we have overcome these injustices with one or two timely plays? Yes. But that doesn't take away the fact that the REFS jobbed us big time on a huge stage.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Whenever there is a tie game each team can look back on a dozen or more plays that would have tipped the regulation score in their favor. These are INTERNAL issues. Both Syracuse and the Rebels had them. A fumble, missed interception, dropped pass, bad coaching decision. Each one of these could have swayed the game. But in this game there were several EXTERNAL issues (15 yard drive extending or drive killing penalties). I read a number of posters who are trying to downplay the EXTERNAL factors by saying all we needed to do was complete one internal play or extinguish one internal mistake. But either team could say this. Just UNLV had multiple questionable calls that essentially stacked the deck against them. Could we have overcome these injustices with one or two timely plays? Yes. But that doesn't take away the fact that the REFS jobbed us big time on a huge stage.

Not that it matters but even broadcast and booth analysts were like, yeah that's not a great call.

 

[j. spilotro]

Whenever there is a tie game each team can look back on a dozen or more plays that would have tipped the regulation score in their favor. These are INTERNAL issues. Both Syracuse and the Rebels had them. A fumble, missed interception, dropped pass, bad coaching decision. Each one of these could have swayed the game. But in this game there were several EXTERNAL issues (15 yard drive extending or drive killing penalties). I read a number of posters who are trying to downplay the EXTERNAL factors by saying all we needed to do was complete one internal play or extinguish one internal mistake. But either team could say this. Just UNLV had multiple questionable calls that essentially stacked the deck against them. Could we have overcome these injustices with one or two timely plays? Yes. But that doesn't take away the fact that the REFS jobbed us big time on a huge stage.

Not downplaying it.

But you have zero control over one. You have full control over the other.

Some fans - UNLV has never lost a game. It’s always the refs. Its a loser mentality.

Many fans, the game is too rough, need to clean it up. Calls like yesterday were not close to being considered penalties until sports became ultrapussified (not just football) … there’s the result … over calling things …

All that said, yes - bad calls matter. Last night, USU hoops last year. I think there was a brutal late hit/personal foul last year at AFA, but they overcame. UNLV DUKE 1991.

Look in the mirror first and foremost. The things you can’t control, that’s secondary IMO.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Not downplaying it.

But you have zero control over one. You have full control over the other.

Some fans - UNLV has never lost a game. It’s always the refs. Its a loser mentality.

Many fans, the game is too rough, need to clean it up. Calls like yesterday were not close to being considered penalties until sports became ultrapussified (not just football) … there’s the result … over calling things …

All that said, yes - bad calls matter. Last night, USU hoops last year. I think there was a brutal late hit/personal foul last year at AFA, but they overcame. UNLV DUKE 1991.

Look in the mirror first and foremost. The things you can’t control, that’s secondary IMO.

There are soft calls and there are close calls at the worst possible time.

That roughing the passer was not soft. It wasn't a close call at a crucial moment. It was the wrong call at any point in a game.

UNLV had chances to take Refs out of the equation. They didn't. And it cost them.

 

[WarthogRebel]

But in most games it isn't required to take the refs out of the equation. If the refs weren't in the equation (as they should not have been) then the Rebs played well enough to win. A team shouldn't need to play against an opponent AND the referees.

 

[1Tripoda]

But in most games it isn't required to take the refs out of the equation. If the refs weren't in the equation (as they should not have been) then the Rebs played well enough to win. A team shouldn't need to play against an opponent AND the referees.

Let's just focus on the next game. They got us.