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[LocoRebel]

I also heard this past week there was an issue with the new football operations director. I guess he was here week and decided to go back to Fresno State.

I think the issue is we dont have one .

I've put a name out there with a possible candidate but I have absolutely no idea if hes realistic,in contention, or interested. Jason Sykes, former SDSU dfo as recently as last week until Hoke took over.



Joe - I very much get your point. I dont know what the funding procedure is for getting an AD, but if you expect to be good in athletics you must be willing to spend for an AD. And then, like you said, step back (president) and let the AD work.

I dont know what comparable salaries should be, never looked. I dont know p5, g5, fcs... any AD salaries. I know one thing -i would expect unlv to pay low. And I would expect unlv to get below average candidates. I dont think the pendulum would be likely to swing from cheap, underperforming ADs to spendy, competent, qualified ones.

If they had a mil to drop on a good AD, I would hope that they would. Maybe on the next go round?

 

[j. spilotro]

I think the issue is we dont have one .

I've put a name out there with a possible candidate but I have absolutely no idea if hes realistic,in contention, or interested. Jason Sykes, former SDSU dfo as recently as last week until Hoke took over.



Joe - I very much get your point. I dont know what the funding procedure is for getting an AD, but if you expect to be good in athletics you must be willing to spend for an AD. And then, like you said, step back (president) and let the AD work.

I dont know what comparable salaries should be, never looked. I dont know p5, g5, fcs... any AD salaries. I know one thing -i would expect unlv to pay low. And I would expect unlv to get below average candidates. I dont think the pendulum would be likely to swing from cheap, underperforming ADs to spendy, competent, qualified ones.

If they had a mil to drop on a good AD, I would hope that they would. Maybe on the next go round?

No doubt money has been an issue. Maybe it won’t with the stadium deal.

But several years back, we did have Livengood. I know some didn’t like him. But he had real experience at a real D1 school in a power conference. He moved in those circles. And whether he’d have made headway, I don’t know … but his vision was power conference for UNLV. I know he was handcuffed by funding from the university, handcuffed badly, it was his primary beef - need to spend to make … eventually, he just couldn’t get things done and he was forced out. Ironically, some of the money he asked for is now available to UNLV. And he was replaced with a puppet for four years … and crap spiraled out of control.

But I really do like having someone with experience in the position.

 

[j. spilotro]

I'm a firm believer in relationships. Sounds to me that she will need to work on building better relationships with our boosters and donors.

if you’re a firm believer in relationships, don’t get your hopes up.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

No doubt money has been an issue. Maybe it won’t with the stadium deal.

But several years back, we did have Livengood. I know some didn’t like him. But he had real experience at a real D1 school in a power conference. He moved in those circles. And whether he’d have made headway, I don’t know … but his vision was power conference for UNLV. I know he was handcuffed by funding from the university, handcuffed badly, it was his primary beef - need to spend to make … eventually, he just couldn’t get things done and he was forced out. Ironically, some of the money he asked for is now available to UNLV. And he was replaced with a puppet for four years … and crap spiraled out of control.

But I really do like having someone with experience in the position.

Funding wasn't his only beef....

One of the reasons people didn't like Livengood was he said what a lot of people didn't want to hear.

He knew the arms race in college athletics revolved around football.

What boosters UNLV does/did have were predominantly basketball centric.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

if you’re a firm believer in relationships, don’t get your hopes up.

I get she may end up being awful.

She may set the program back even further. As impossible as that seems.

But can you at least understand why I can't take some people serious around here...

Year after year of posts....

'This booster sucks!'
'This booster is a cancer!'
'These boosters are nickle and dimers!'
'These boosters need to step up or STFU!'

Next two hires used zero booster money...(I don't care if the money fell in her lap)

And the same people bitching about boosters for five years have the sack to comeback with..

'WTF! SHE IS ALIENATING THE BOOSTERS!'

'What an idiot!'.

 

[j. spilotro]

I get she may end up being awful.

She may set the program back even further. As impossible as that seems.

But can you at least understand why I can't take some people serious around here...

Year after year of posts....

'This booster sucks!'
'This booster is a cancer!'
'These boosters are nickle and dimers!'
'These boosters need to step up or STFU!'

Next two hires used zero booster money...(I don't care if the money fell in her lap)

And the same people bitching about boosters for five years have the sack to comeback with..

'WTF! SHE IS ALIENATING THE BOOSTERS!'

'What an idiot!'.

You still have to be able to work a room. Can't be a puppet, but you can't alienate either. That's where personality comes in. She divides.

 

[LocoRebel]

But several years back, we did have Livengood.

Man, I would love to have Livengood in the current climate of the school. With the funding and at least surface level admittance that they need to fund football and get that program moving, Livengood could be outstanding. I think we are so far away from getting someone of that caliber again that it's a little disheartening, to be honest.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Man, I would love to have Livengood in the current climate of the school. With the funding and at least surface level admittance that they need to fund football and get that program moving, Livengood could be outstanding. I think we are so far away from getting someone of that caliber again that it's a little disheartening, to be honest.

If Livengood were here at the time, does UNLV make the Sanchez hire?

 

[Rebelious1]

Remember Livengood hired Hauck instead of Dirk Koetter.

 

[LocoRebel]

If Livengood were here at the time, does UNLV make the Sanchez hire?

Probably not... I was thinking if right this second you hire on Livengood, or sort of he materialized in the AD chair right now lol. Tune in to your Sci-Fi channel!

Remember Livengood hired Hauck instead of Dirk Koetter.

At that time, was it that obvious of a hire though? Koetter was coming off a slightly-over-.500 tenure at ASU and than was an NFL OC for 4-5 years. Of course that experience would be nice, but there is something to be said about being at the college level. Not the point though.

I think the candidate pool Livengood would have access to right now would be a little more impressive. Actually, maybe it wouldn't be right now because the candidate pool was already infinitely better than what it was in 2014.

 

[j. spilotro]

Probably not... I was thinking if right this second you hire on Livengood, or sort of he materialized in the AD chair right now lol. Tune in to your Sci-Fi channel!



At that time, was it that obvious of a hire though? Koetter was coming off a slightly-over-.500 tenure at ASU and than was an NFL OC for 4-5 years. Of course that experience would be nice, but there is something to be said about being at the college level. Not the point though.

I think the candidate pool Livengood would have access to right now would be a little more impressive. Actually, maybe it wouldn't be right now because the candidate pool was already infinitely better than what it was in 2014.

Not when Sanchez was actually hired, but at this moment in time and the near future, the cash flow at UNLV will be better. Instead of AM/PM burgers and 7-11 hot dogs, we can go to In and Out.

Money, sadly, drives everything. Good people can’t get as much done as they could without money. Bad people can get shit done with money. So that really can be the crux of it in many cases.

I’m one that wasn’t against the Sanchez hire from a big picture standpoint. From a W/L standpoint, it’s a “bad” hire. But big picture, it had to be done. Sanchez is probably the first coach at UNLV to where the department worth (assets-expenditures) was a plus. And this is coming with one of the worst records of any coach. But football has the wiggle room because they’re bad, they’ve been historically bad and the expectation is to be bad. May as well accumulate some wealth when you can if you are going to be bad and this is the first time it’s happened.

 

[RebNReno]

If Livengood were here at the time, does UNLV make the Sanchez hire?

Remember Livengood hired Hauck instead of Dirk Koetter.

Livengood may have been good at the overall vision and fundraising aspects of being an AD but hiring good coaches was not his strength.

It's possible Livengood hires Sanchez seeing the big picture but even if he doesn't I doubt his choice would have done much better than CTS (20-40) and we'd still have a new coach this year either way.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Remember Livengood hired Hauck instead of Dirk Koetter.

I know with hindsight the Hauck hiring looks bad.

At the time Hauck was 80-17 at Montana with two trips to the FCS title game. I think what wasn't considered enough is that he inherited a pretty good program vs having to rebuild here.

He was just a bad fit.

He's done fine since returning to Montana.

When UNLV hired him, it was widely viewed as a solid hire and UNLV might be getting a very good up and coming coach..