Rebel basketball schedule..

[BornRebelRed]

I’m seeing all kinds of non conference games being set up and announced. I sure hope our new coach Pastner realizes if we want some crowds at the T&M this year, he needs to schedule some big meaningful games. The Kruger method of scheduling numerous no names was boring and bad. Been going on for years. We need a Tark like approach. Play big non conference home and away games. If we want to move back into the big time…

 

[dcut03]

I’m seeing all kinds of non conference games being set up and announced. I sure hope our new coach Pastner realizes if we want some crowds at the T&M this year, he needs to schedule some big meaningful games. The Kruger method of scheduling numerous no names was boring and bad. Been going on for years. We need a Tark like approach. Play big non conference home and away games. If we want to move back into the big time…

Great in theory, tough in execution. Look around college basketball, there are very, very few true home and home games against tournament worthy opponents, unless it is a part of a interleague "challenge". I have been hopeful since the rules of NIT incentivizes true road games, that we would get better OOC games, but it hasn't happened yet. Heopfully it does, because it does make sense.

The crappy part for a place like UNLV, the "neutral" courts around LV still counts as a home game for use and a true road game for the opponent.

 

[UNLVINMD]

At Memphis on return game
Not sure if Dayton will be made up?

 

[BornRebelRed]

Tough to execute =K Kruger
Get it done = Pastner hopefully
Plenty of teams to play, all it takes is effort. For example, BYU at Marriot, then BYU at the Mack. Easy travel…. Big crowds. Money made by everyone. Tough to execute is a lazy copout.

 

[Rebel1986]

Tough to execute =K Kruger
Get it done = Pastner hopefully
Plenty of teams to play, all it takes is effort. For example, BYU at Marriot, then BYU at the Mack. Easy travel…. Big crowds. Money made by everyone. Tough to execute is a lazy copout.

My understanding is that byu wants UNLV into the Big12. If that is true, I think they would be likely to schedule basketball games with UNLV, but less likely to schedule football considering how well UNLV is currently playing.

 

[bcvegaspt2]

My understanding is that byu wants UNLV into the Big12. If that is true, I think they would be likely to schedule basketball games with UNLV, but less likely to schedule football considering how well UNLV is currently playing.

 

[unlove]

Tough to execute =K Kruger
Get it done = Pastner hopefully
Plenty of teams to play, all it takes is effort. For example, BYU at Marriot, then BYU at the Mack. Easy travel…. Big crowds. Money made by everyone. Tough to execute is a lazy copout.

Renewing the UNLV/BYU rivalry would be epic

 

[RebelScrub]

Renewing the UNLV/BYU rivalry would be epic

“Rivalry”…they beat our asses and I hated it each time

 

[Rebel1986]

“Rivalry”…they beat our asses and I hated it each time

I guess I watch different games. UNLV played BYU 36 times. UNLV won 19 and byu won 17 - seems like a rivalry to me!

 

[RebelScrub]

I guess I watch different games. UNLV played BYU 36 times. UNLV won 19 and byu won 17 - seems like a rivalry to me!

BYU used their influence to get that stupid gigantic gate so they won’t get flooded, and then they bolted.

I will never forgive this shitbag of a conference for doing that.

 

[Masked_rebel]

Gone are the days of big OOC games at the Mack.. sorry, but that's life when you're a .500 team for a decade and the game has changed. At best, we get a good game at Tmobile or something in one if the tournaments especially for the NIL challenge. Not to mention fans aren't going to "Pack the Mack" to watch UNLV get boat raced which is what the casualty fan will believe is going to happen till UNLV proves other

 

[rebel5280]

We are suffering the consequences of bad hire after bad hire in basketball. UNLV basketball will need to get going this year to gain some traction with locals and beyond.

I have hope in Josh getting this done here soon!

 

[JTthe2nd]

We are suffering the consequences of bad hire after bad hire in basketball. UNLV basketball will need to get going this year to gain some traction with locals and beyond.

I have hope in Josh getting this done here soon!

He better. There is zero excuse for not running the table on this conference with SDSU, Boise St., Utah St., and CSU leaving. Finishing lower than 2nd would be a total failure imo.

 

[RebelScrub]

We are suffering the consequences of bad hire after bad hire in basketball. UNLV basketball will need to get going this year to gain some traction with locals and beyond.

I have hope in Josh getting this done here soon!

He’s upped the recruiting..that’s all you can ask. Hopefully he’ll learn a few tricks, plays etc.

 

[BornRebelRed]

First: We play SDSU and Boise State in basketball this year. Nothing has changed. NEXT year is when they all leave. By then, we should be in a different league also.
Second: We have played BYU 36 times in basketball. UNLV has won 19 times. So, I don’t think they have any bragging rights.
Any game we play against them would draw a big crowd, this being a Morman town.
Third: The last thing we need is to play a game on the Strip that is not related to the big tournament that we are already in this year.
Fourth: Big crowds at the Mack are not as far fetched as some people think. Schedule and style of play are huge factors.

 

[Masked_rebel]

First: We play SDSU and Boise State in basketball this year. Nothing has changed. NEXT year is when they all leave. By then, we should be in a different league also.
Second: We have played BYU 36 times in basketball. UNLV has won 19 times. So, I don’t think they have any bragging rights.
Any game we play against them would draw a big crowd, this being a Morman town.
Third: The last thing we need is to play a game on the Strip that is not related to the big tournament that we are already in this year.
Fourth: Big crowds at the Mack are not as far fetched as some people think. Schedule and style of play are huge factors.

Unfortunately, teams that draw arent scheduling road games at G5s anymore.. Not when neutral court games carry more impact vs better competition. What's a good "home game" look like in OOC these days? Certainly arent convincing any real big brand teams to come play in Vegas, like Arizona or Wisconsin like back in the day.. and top 25 teams? forget about it- those that are ranked early in the year are playing neutral court game and tournaments like the NIL one and then playing a bunch of home games... We can play as fun and be exciting on offense and it still wont matter because the causal fan that helped fill the Mack wont care to watch us play that way vs say a Northwestern or Rutgers or Georgia Tech let alone Southern, Arkansas St. etc...
As for playing BYU- you really want to see 70% of the Mack filled with BYU fans just to say it was a "fun" home environment? No thanks

 

[j. spilotro]

When there’s a weak schedule, it’s because that’s what you wanted. New Mexico/Bliss laid out that excuse year after year (nobody wants to play at the pit). And for years, they had an insanely easy schedule, the type Menzies preferred, and they’d rack up 23 wins, a ranking and they’d be exposed in the tournament with an ass blasting. But hey, we won 23 games!

If you aren’t in the best position, you have to bite the bullet sometimes and you may have to 2 for 1 it (two at their place, one at yours) over three years. You might get one there and one neutral. But if you aren’t in the position to make demands, you just gotta go out there and compete.

No question UNLV has fallen on such hard times that it’s more difficult to schedule. Why? Because we are considered a bad loss for the types of schools we want to play. So it’s risky for them, no risk for us. When we were competing, we could get the home and homes. Because it would be a tough loss for them, but a loss that didn’t hurt them.

So you have to entice in a different way. And that involves compromise.

I think you can tell a lot about a coach by how they schedule. Too easy - they’re fragile, afraid, overly susceptible to outside perceptions and criticisms. If the schedule is too hard … over aggressive, maybe foggy judgement, too much confidence, trying to prove too much too soon … but I’ll always opt for the later because at least that one involves setting a high bar and going for it instead of the passive lets rack up 20 wins against Alcorn State.

 

[JTthe2nd]

First: We play SDSU and Boise State in basketball this year. Nothing has changed. NEXT year is when they all leave. By then, we should be in a different league also.
Second: We have played BYU 36 times in basketball. UNLV has won 19 times. So, I don’t think they have any bragging rights.
Any game we play against them would draw a big crowd, this being a Morman town.
Third: The last thing we need is to play a game on the Strip that is not related to the big tournament that we are already in this year.
Fourth: Big crowds at the Mack are not as far fetched as some people think. Schedule and style of play are huge factors.

Ah my bad. In that case I guess a 6th or 7th place finish is more realistic.

 

[Rebel1986]

BYU used their influence to get that stupid gigantic gate so they won’t get flooded, and then they bolted.

I will never forgive this shitbag of a conference for doing that.

That was because of the byu coach bitch wife!

 

[RebelScrub]

He better. There is zero excuse for not running the table on this conference with SDSU, Boise St., Utah St., and CSU leaving. Finishing lower than 2nd would be a total failure imo.

I guess I watch different games. UNLV played BYU 36 times. UNLV won 19 and byu won 17 - seems like a rivalry to me!

That was because of the byu coach bitch wife!

One of our posters got scratched from behind from what’s his name’s woman

Fugg..mid 40’s fugue is what I call it

Yeah we know who it was.

I still can’t believe I held up the sign back in 2006 and got away with it.

But I think we can all agree, we need to get back into it with them.

 

[unlove]

We have to be road warriors and bring the attitude of take on anyone anywhere until we can begin be in a position to negotiate home games. It’s up to Pastner to instill that attitude. At least he can then recruit with the pitch that they’ll play legit teams and more likely on TV/stream.

 

[dcut03]

Show me one school in the past 3 years that had good OOC true home games. It just doesn't happen. It is hard enough as a power P4 school, it is impossible for a G5.

Add that to the fact that Las Vegas has multiple "neutral" venues that good teams would want to move the game to. They get a true road game on the schedule we lose our home court. They would get a near 50% or better crowd.

Times have changed. The tournaments/challenges have taken over the OOC. Every team plays a cupcake OOC home schedule.

I agree that we have to be road warriors. It gives us more Q1 opportunities (lower risk, higher reward), it helps us toughen up for conference play. We need to stop playing "home games" away from the Mack during the rodeo. Play 2 road games in those 2 weeks and then move on.

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

Show me one school in the past 3 years that had good OOC true home games. It just doesn't happen. It is hard enough as a power P4 school, it is impossible for a G5.

Add that to the fact that Las Vegas has multiple "neutral" venues that good teams would want to move the game to. They get a true road game on the schedule we lose our home court. They would get a near 50% or better crowd.

Times have changed. The tournaments/challenges have taken over the OOC. Every team plays a cupcake OOC home schedule.

I agree that we have to be road warriors. It gives us more Q1 opportunities (lower risk, higher reward), it helps us toughen up for conference play. We need to stop playing "home games" away from the Mack during the rodeo. Play 2 road games in those 2 weeks and then move on.

Gonzaga is one. SDSU has played UCLA and Gonzaga at home they play again this season too. Memphis has also played a large number of non con home games vs good teams.

 

[Masked_rebel]

Gonzaga is one. SDSU has played UCLA and Gonzaga at home they play again this season too. Memphis has also played a large number of non con home games vs good teams.

Gonzaga is a perennial top 15 team that's built credibility beyond a mid-major and can schedule like a P4 with a tough true home game vs top 25 teams as a "season tip off" but the majority of their "good" schedule was nuetral court games...
SDSU scheduled those games before the calculation was changed coming off sweet 16 and a Final 4, and they still played the strength of their OOC scheduleat neutral sites or on the road...
The strength of Memphis' schedule was primarily in Hawaii, neutral court games and on the road. They happened to get a good home game vs Top 25 Ole Miss...
The point that's being made is yes, we might get 1 good OOC home game, but it's not going to be every game to "draw more fans" and certainly is getting harder to do these days at all...

 

[dcut03]

Gonzaga is one. SDSU has played UCLA and Gonzaga at home they play again this season too. Memphis has also played a large number of non con home games vs good teams.

Memphis played Missouri and Ole Miss last season. Good games for sure, but not the type of games that I think UNLV fans are clamoring for. Year before Clemson, Vandy, and UVA. Also pretty good, better than last season. Memphis is probably doing this the best.

If UNLV can consistently become a top 75 team (not the toughest thing to do), then we become a quad 1 road game. But again having multiple sites that other teams would push for in the Vegas Valley still hurts us.

Gonzaga doesn't count. They are a blue blood at this point. Even so, they played Baylor and ASU last season, and just SDSU as a true home game the year before. Not great. Most big games are in tournaments or moved to Seattle.

The idea that we have to schedule 2-3 marquee home games just isn't realistic. Like a lot of things, many Rebel fans have higher standards than what the best of the best in the sport these days can do.

Everyone plays cupcakes, most of the good OOC are neutral sites.

 

[WarthogRebel]

Memphis played Missouri and Ole Miss last season. Good games for sure, but not the type of games that I think UNLV fans are clamoring for. Year before Clemson, Vandy, and UVA. Also pretty good, better than last season. Memphis is probably doing this the best.

If UNLV can consistently become a top 75 team (not the toughest thing to do), then we become a quad 1 road game. But again having multiple sites that other teams would push for in the Vegas Valley still hurts us.

Gonzaga doesn't count. They are a blue blood at this point. Even so, they played Baylor and ASU last season, and zero good true home games the year before. Not great. Most big games are in tournaments or moved to Seattle.

The idea that we have to schedule 2-3 marquee home games just isn't realistic. Like a lot of things, many Rebel fans have higher standards than what the best of the best in the sport these days can do.

Everyone plays cupcakes, most of the good OOC are neutral sites.

"...they played Baylor and ASU last season..."

But the Baylor game was played at the "Spokane Arena" - not a true home game. The Spokane Arena holds double the fans of the McCarthy Athletic Center.

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

Gonzaga is a perennial top 15 team that's built credibility beyond a mid-major and can schedule like a P4 with a tough true home game vs top 25 teams as a "season tip off" but the majority of their "good" schedule was nuetral court games...
SDSU scheduled those games before the calculation was changed coming off sweet 16 and a Final 4, and they still played the strength of their OOC scheduleat neutral sites or on the road...
The strength of Memphis' schedule was primarily in Hawaii, neutral court games and on the road. They happened to get a good home game vs Top 25 Ole Miss...
The point that's being made is yes, we might get 1 good OOC home game, but it's not going to be every game to "draw more fans" and certainly is getting harder to do these days at all...

It doesn’t have to be every game but to say you can’t schedule good non con games at home isn’t accurate. Memphis has played Ole Miss, Bama, A&M, Clemson, Virginia and Vandy at home in just the last three seasons. The statement was “show me one team with good OOC home games.” I named three.

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

Memphis played Missouri and Ole Miss last season. Good games for sure, but not the type of games that I think UNLV fans are clamoring for. Year before Clemson, Vandy, and UVA. Also pretty good, better than last season. Memphis is probably doing this the best.

If UNLV can consistently become a top 75 team (not the toughest thing to do), then we become a quad 1 road game. But again having multiple sites that other teams would push for in the Vegas Valley still hurts us.

Gonzaga doesn't count. They are a blue blood at this point. Even so, they played Baylor and ASU last season, and just SDSU as a true home game the year before. Not great. Most big games are in tournaments or moved to Seattle.

The idea that we have to schedule 2-3 marquee home games just isn't realistic. Like a lot of things, many Rebel fans have higher standards than what the best of the best in the sport these days can do.

Everyone plays cupcakes, most of the good OOC are neutral sites.

Gonzaga has also played Duke and Kentucky at home. You can schedule two marquee games it doesn’t have to be Carolina or Duke. You can get bottom ranked teams or those who are close like a Creighton or BYU or Oregon or Marquette or Vandy or Washington and attract fans. You won’t get them if your schedule solely consists of Pansy U and our sole marquee game is Drake. I think our schedule last year is pretty close. We need one ranked team at home and a second in the ballpark.

 

[dcut03]

"...they played Baylor and ASU last season..."

But the Baylor game was played at the "Spokane Arena" - not a true home game. The Spokane Arena holds double the fans of the McCarthy Athletic Center.

Good point. However, given their fan base, though a "neutral" site, still a huge advantage for Gonzaga. Being in Spokane still counts as a home game. They need a bigger arena to pack in their fans.

When we play away from the T&M in Las Vegas. Half of our dwindling die hards don't go to the game, since it is often not covered by season tickets, and its an even more empty arena, or dominated by the "visiting" team.

 

[WarthogRebel]

Gonzaga has also played Duke and Kentucky at home. You can schedule two marquee games it doesn’t have to be Carolina or Duke. You can get bottom ranked teams or those who are close like a Creighton or BYU or Oregon or Marquette or Vandy or Washington and attract fans. You won’t get them if your schedule solely consists of Pansy U and our sole marquee game is Drake. I think our schedule last year is pretty close. We need one ranked team at home and a second in the ballpark.

I can't find that Duke has ever play Gonzaga on Gonzaga's home court. Same is true for Kansas. As for Kentucky - they at least played in Spokane - but not at the McCarthy Center, they played at the Spokane Athletic Center. When a person looks at the schedule many games show "home" but it's only the designated home team at a neutral site.

 

[dcut03]

Gonzaga has also played Duke and Kentucky at home. You can schedule two marquee games it doesn’t have to be Carolina or Duke. You can get bottom ranked teams or those who are close like a Creighton or BYU or Oregon or Marquette or Vandy or Washington and attract fans. You won’t get them if your schedule solely consists of Pansy U and our sole marquee game is Drake. I think our schedule last year is pretty close. We need one ranked team at home and a second in the ballpark.

Again Gonzaga isn't quite the fair comparison. They are a true blue blood and perhaps the most consistent B-ball program over the past 20 years.

They played Kentucky at home (Spokane arena not their normal home court), they played Duke in Las Vegas. At least in the past 5 years.

But even Gonzaga might get 2 really good games in Spokane in OOC.

Our schedule 2 years ago was really, really good. It is hard to get much better than that as a a has been G5 team. Start to win in the tournament and more opportunities could arise.

I do think BYU is a reasonable team to target. They are close, have a ton of local fans, etc. Old rivalry. Some of the old PAC teams like UCLA, USC, ASU, and Uof A could be possibilities. Since they have to travel much more now, having a regional home and home seems doable. But again, I think most of these team, save maybe BYU, would be bullish on playing outside of the T&M.

 

[dcut03]

I can't find that Duke has ever play Gonzaga on Gonzaga's home court. Same is true for Kansas. As for Kentucky - they at least played in Spokane - but not at the McCarthy Center, they played at the Spokane Athletic Center. When a person looks at the schedule many games show "home" but it's only the designated home team at a neutral site.

They haven't played Kansas in Spokane in the past 5 years. They did play Texas in the Spokane arena a few years ago as well to be fair.

 

[WarthogRebel]

Again Gonzaga isn't quite the fair comparison. They are a true blue blood and perhaps the most consistent B-ball program over the past 20 years.

They played Kentucky at home (Spokane arena not their normal home court), they played Duke in Las Vegas. At least in the past 5 years.

But even Gonzaga might get 2 really good games in Spokane in OOC.

Our schedule 2 years ago was really, really good. It is hard to get much better than that as a a has been G5 team. Start to win in the tournament and more opportunities could arise.

I do think BYU is a reasonable team to target. They are close, have a ton of local fans, etc. Old rivalry. Some of the old PAC teams like UCLA, USC, ASU, and Uof A could be possibilities. Since they have to travel much more now, having a regional home and home seems doable. But again, I think most of these team, save maybe BYU, would be bullish on playing outside of the T&M.

Gonzaga does regularly play UCLA at their home court.

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

Again Gonzaga isn't quite the fair comparison. They are a true blue blood and perhaps the most consistent B-ball program over the past 20 years.

They played Kentucky at home (Spokane arena not their normal home court), they played Duke in Las Vegas. At least in the past 5 years.

But even Gonzaga might get 2 really good games in Spokane in OOC.

Our schedule 2 years ago was really, really good. It is hard to get much better than that as a a has been G5 team. Start to win in the tournament and more opportunities could arise.

I do think BYU is a reasonable team to target. They are close, have a ton of local fans, etc. Old rivalry. Some of the old PAC teams like UCLA, USC, ASU, and Uof A could be possibilities. Since they have to travel much more now, having a regional home and home seems doable. But again, I think most of these team, save maybe BYU, would be bullish on playing outside of the T&M.

I would be happy with our schedule two years ago which shows it is possible. No reason they can’t get two good home games.

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

Again Gonzaga isn't quite the fair comparison. They are a true blue blood and perhaps the most consistent B-ball program over the past 20 years.

They played Kentucky at home (Spokane arena not their normal home court), they played Duke in Las Vegas. At least in the past 5 years.

But even Gonzaga might get 2 really good games in Spokane in OOC.

Our schedule 2 years ago was really, really good. It is hard to get much better than that as a a has been G5 team. Start to win in the tournament and more opportunities could arise.

I do think BYU is a reasonable team to target. They are close, have a ton of local fans, etc. Old rivalry. Some of the old PAC teams like UCLA, USC, ASU, and Uof A could be possibilities. Since they have to travel much more now, having a regional home and home seems doable. But again, I think most of these team, save maybe BYU, would be bullish on playing outside of the T&M.

Gonzaga is a very good team, but they are definitely not a blue blood. You can’t have zero national championships to your name and be considered a blue blood. We made three final fours in five seasons, won a national championship, went undefeated one year and over a 15 year stretch were one of the top five winningest teams in the country and we weren’t considered a blue blood.

 

[dcut03]

Gonzaga is a very good team, but they are definitely not a blue blood. You can’t have zero national championships to your name and be considered a blue blood. We made three final fours in five seasons, won a national championship, went undefeated one year and over a 15 year stretch were one of the top five winningest teams in the country and we weren’t considered a blue blood.

25 straight seasons in the tournament.
13 sweet 16's
5 Élite 8's
2 Final Fours
2 NC games (runner up both times).

Sure they haven't won the whole thing, but there aren't 5 teams out there with a more consistent resume than that.

Like UNLV in our heyday, maybe not the pure recruiting blue blood pedigree, but hard to argue results for them now and us then in terms of being a blue blood. And it sure looked like that we were going to be a true blue blood given the talent we were alledgedly going to land before Tark was fired.

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

25 straight seasons in the tournament.
13 sweet 16's
5 Élite 8's
2 Final Fours
2 NC games (runner up both times).

Sure they haven't won the whole thing, but there aren't 5 teams out there with a more consistent resume than that.

Like UNLV in our heyday, maybe not the pure recruiting blue blood pedigree, but hard to argue results for them now and us then in terms of being a blue blood. And it sure looked like that we were going to be a true blue blood given the talent we were alledgedly going to land before Tark was fired.

We were probably on our way but no one had declared us one yet and as good as Gonzaga has been they still aren’t up to our peak.

 

[dcut03]

We were probably on our way but no one had declared us one yet and as good as Gonzaga has been they still aren’t up to our peak.

Blue blood or not, they are a top 5 College basketball program. Point being, not a fair comparison.