Does UNLV Football follow the Raider's and require a vaccination to enter Allegiant Stadium? Here we go!
Proof of Vaccination?
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This is a fascinating development. Not sure how the Raiders will enforce it. Those vaccination cards have pretty small print. In any case, kudos for the Raiders. I hope UNLV follows suit.
UNLV will do whatever the Raiders want them to do we are all up to speed on that part right.
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I read in the RJ they will use the Clear App for the vaccine proof.
I am vaccinated and having a hell of a time getting proof of it beyond the paper card I am carrying. Ironically, I can call Albertsons pharmacy and in 2 minutes they found me in a database.
I downloaded Clear app and the first thing it asks for is an uploaded image of a photo ID.
Nope, not doing that. Is this going to kill UNLV athletics for me? It might. If it isnt parking, it will be this.
I downloaded Clear app and the first thing it asks for is an uploaded image of a photo ID.
Nope, not doing that. Is this going to kill UNLV athletics for me? It might. If it isnt parking, it will be this.
The Aviators used the clear App at the beginning of the season to say you had no symptoms and I refused to load it but you could go to the box office and tell in person that I had no symptoms. I figure you should be able to show your card at Allegiant box office instead of the app.
Can I show them my dead mom’s coroner results and my 1600 medical hospital stay at Mountain View Hospital as proof that I don’t need the vaccine?
absolute hogwash. Guess, I’m staying home.
Damn UNLV for making things hard to go to a football game.
absolute hogwash. Guess, I’m staying home.
Damn UNLV for making things hard to go to a football game.
I am vaxxed. Clear won't take the picture of my card. I am pissed. At Clear.
The Raiders say that I can show my ID and vaxx card. I am sure it will be a pain.
But, not as much as my dead brother-in-law, or brain damaged sister had. And, I will wait to get in the game id line less than my wife spent in a chair in the Covid ward, with pneumonia.
So, let me dry my tears for you. I am just tired as hell of selfish people who don't give a damn about others. I didn't whine about dozens of vaxxes when I served in the Army. I am not going to cry about two, or even three, here. Get the damn jab.
The Raiders say that I can show my ID and vaxx card. I am sure it will be a pain.
But, not as much as my dead brother-in-law, or brain damaged sister had. And, I will wait to get in the game id line less than my wife spent in a chair in the Covid ward, with pneumonia.
So, let me dry my tears for you. I am just tired as hell of selfish people who don't give a damn about others. I didn't whine about dozens of vaxxes when I served in the Army. I am not going to cry about two, or even three, here. Get the damn jab.
I have a photo of my vax card on my phone. Does anyone think that would work? Or would I need to bring the VAX card itself. I am hesitant to take that card out of my house because I don’t want to lose it.
I also tried Clear. I was able to take a photo of my ID but it wouldn’t take a photo of my face. I think I’m just too ugly for it to work.
I also tried Clear. I was able to take a photo of my ID but it wouldn’t take a photo of my face. I think I’m just too ugly for it to work.
I haven't looked into the Clear app yet but how much personal information do you have to provide? What happens when that app gets hacked (since it will likely get hacked someday)? I shred mail I receive at my house since it has my name and address on it. Maybe I worked in the medical field for too long but I still want my personal information, as well as any medical information, to remain confidential. Being a mortgage loan officer I still consider people's private information to be, well, private.
Have fun at the games, everyone! I'll watch on tv.
Have fun at the games, everyone! I'll watch on tv.
Yeah, I don't like this crap either. On the clear App, I believe you have to take a picture of your drivers license, front and back, as well as a current picture of yourself to confirm it's your drivers license also.
For now UNLV is sticking with their current policy of not requiring proof of vaccination. You will be required to wear a mask, regardless of vaccination status.
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Israel, one of the most vaccinated countries by percentage in the world has released new data.
The Pfizer vaccine is showing a 39% effective rate vs Delta variant. 39% at mitigating the spread. That is worse than what you get on average from yearly Flu vax. (Around 50-60%).
Efficacy of vaccine seems to wane after 6-8 months.
These are real numbers. Not from some crank anti-vax website.
Those are poor results folks in terms of curbing the spread and length of protection. Before anybody says I'm anti-vax, I'm not. I'm vaxxed. I think people should still consider it, as it is still showing to be effective at lessening symptoms.
But the vaccines are not performing as promised...
Even if you are vaxxed, you can still spread it, and you can still get it...
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I always love how someone calls anyone selfish that doesn't do as they say. Says everything I need to know about you.
1986, sorry you feel that way. I believe that someone who will endanger themselves and others, rather than have a slight inconvenience is selfish. So, if caring about all of us tells you what you need to know about me, good.
BTW, wait until you see your health insurance premiums next year. The government is paying for vaxxes, but not the medical expenses for the millions who need health care, from office visits to hospitals. Insurance will pay. Then, raise rates to regain the money.
And, for God's sake, don't have a heart attack. No room at the inn.
And, don't worry, I am getting mine. Besides the losses to my family, I now find out that Clear won't take my Vax card, because UMCSN used stickers. And, they don't replace cards. You can smile knowing that I will be standing in long lines at every game I go to.
But, I am glad I vaxxed. Wish everybody did. Stay well.
BTW, wait until you see your health insurance premiums next year. The government is paying for vaxxes, but not the medical expenses for the millions who need health care, from office visits to hospitals. Insurance will pay. Then, raise rates to regain the money.
And, for God's sake, don't have a heart attack. No room at the inn.
And, don't worry, I am getting mine. Besides the losses to my family, I now find out that Clear won't take my Vax card, because UMCSN used stickers. And, they don't replace cards. You can smile knowing that I will be standing in long lines at every game I go to.
But, I am glad I vaxxed. Wish everybody did. Stay well.
Bull, yes, you can get it after vaxing. Especially Delta. Who knows what variant will appear.
But, in the US, 97% cases are among the unvaxed. And, if you are vaxed it is less severe if you are part of the 3%.
My docs agree with the vast majority of docs that vaxing is valuable. I took their advice.
But, in the US, 97% cases are among the unvaxed. And, if you are vaxed it is less severe if you are part of the 3%.
My docs agree with the vast majority of docs that vaxing is valuable. I took their advice.
I said I think people should vax.
But if you think that what was promised, and what was delivered are even remotely in conjunction I don't know what to tell you.
If you think a vax that was touted as curbing the spread showing only a 39% efficacy rate shouldn't raise questions you're far more forgiving than I am.
Covid was used as a political bludgeon early on. All the current blame is on anti-vaxxers. Yet, where is the outcry about prominent politicians like Cuomo and our current VP saying they wouldn't trust a vaccine under the previous administration. They said it. There are quotes. There are receipts. Same folks that are now super pro vax weren't that way a few months ago.
It is possible to be pro vax, and also think it has vastly under delivered. And also feel it's a personal choice. None of my business.
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Covid-19: C.D.C. Reverses Testing Advice for Fully Vaccinated
Anyone who has been potentially exposed to the virus should get tested, the C.D.C. now says. Previous guidance recommended testing only for fully vaccinated people who were symptomatic.
This is not trending well, no matter how it is being spun.
The rapidly decreasing effectiveness of these vaccines mitigating spread should raise questions. It's been less than a year since they were released.
39%. So an entire stadium full of vaccinated people doesn't ensure you can't get it or get it again. Anyone of them could contract it and potentially spread it.
But hey they were vaxxed, so what they can claim the moral high ground? Aren't they just as at fault for congregating knowing what we know now? Safer maybe, but not safe.
And if it's 'safe' you are looking for.....I got news for you chief, this shit is here to stay.
Might not want to leave the house. You just can't know if the guy next to you is vaxxed or unvaxxed. And even if vaxxed they could still spread it..
Some real data. In this country no less
I work for the biggest hospital system in the Houston area. We treat more COVID cases as a system than anyone else locally. We monitor hospitilizations for all COVID cases and has been tracking it since last spring.
Since the Delta variant made it's way through the area, our hosipitilzation numbers had increased 10 fold. About 5 or six weeks ago we were at an all time low of just over 100 cases hospitilized to over 1000 today.
We expected a bump from the variant and the fall anticipating around 500 cases in October at its peak, we've doubled that and it isn't even September yet.
Of all the surge in hospitilizations from Delta, only 1 case was vaccinated. That person also had major( Diabetes, CHF, etc) That patient also died.
The Vaccination offers protection, it is not a cure. But at least I see overwhelming data suggesting that the vaccinations are very effective at minimizing life threatening cases.
Which I said.
But the issue still remains vaxxed can and are spreading it. At a pretty alarming rate.
And there are hospitalizations. In fact hospitalizations in Israel are increasing even for vaxxed. Israel is a few months ahead of us with delta variant. Numbers here may shift that way. Hard to say at this point.
Its helping mitigate symptoms for now. Hopefully that continues. But it hasn't delivered what was promised and like other sars variants its here to stay. People will have to come to grips with that and an 'acceptable' number of Covid related deaths will have to be reached. What is that number? Don't know, but this continuous, mandate, masks etc has to end at some point. Bad flu season can claim 60k people.
A 900 pt sample size is pretty good, the more data the better for sure. Houston is the 4th largest city in this country.
This variant is no joke. More variants are likely to come. A highly vaccinated public at the very least takes a good chunk of fuel away from the fire of the mutations. The data does show the spread of Delta is primarily perpetuated from unvaccinated individuals, not completely, but mostly. At some point this can die out, but a more vaccinated public is likely the only way it happens any time soon. Will there be deaths and outliers, for sure.
I agree that we all need to proceed with caution, vaccinated or not. Going to a largely populated event has it's risks, that for sure. Hell I went to a large concert at the baseball park and picked up a different virus that put me down for a week. No mask, no clear.
I have no problem with anyone wanting to skip such an event because of that. Especially those who are not vaccinated ( not that they have a choice it seems).
This variant is no joke. More variants are likely to come. A highly vaccinated public at the very least takes a good chunk of fuel away from the fire of the mutations. The data does show the spread of Delta is primarily perpetuated from unvaccinated individuals, not completely, but mostly. At some point this can die out, but a more vaccinated public is likely the only way it happens any time soon. Will there be deaths and outliers, for sure.
I agree that we all need to proceed with caution, vaccinated or not. Going to a largely populated event has it's risks, that for sure. Hell I went to a large concert at the baseball park and picked up a different virus that put me down for a week. No mask, no clear.
I have no problem with anyone wanting to skip such an event because of that. Especially those who are not vaccinated ( not that they have a choice it seems).
There are booster shots coming. I'm pretty sure I saw a tweet earlier today that showed the effectiveness of booster shots in Israel is way high (I'm completely guessing off memory but somewhere back to 87-98% effective against the Delta strain). Not sure why you had the impression the effectiveness of the vaccine would remain high/steady, seemed like there was always doubt about how long anti-bodies would remain and how they would do against variants.
You also used the flu shot effectiveness as a comparison which was confusing because we are supposed to get the shot yearly..
Show me one article when the vaccines were rolled out that boosters were likely? That we should expect only 6-8 months of protection?
In fact that is why I am disappointed at nearly every turn in the messaging.
It was vax, no masks.
Not vax, and we'll see how it goes.
'We' don't get the flu shot yearly. I've never felt the need.
And that further proves my point about messaging.
Covid transmits like the flu. It mutates like the flu. Telling people or presenting the vaccines as a cure all was nonsense. The CDC and government knew this, or should have..I never said I expected it to last forever. But it was definitely presented that way.
This increases distrust in people on the fence. I'm vaxxed and I feel like I got sold a bad bill of goods.
The vax itself is a net positive. It mitigates symptoms. Those on the fence, namely those at high risk should still consider it.
The the rapid decay in its effectiveness in mitigating spread should at least raise questions, no?
People have a right to ask questions or feel short changed.
What's the acceptable number of yearly Covid deaths that eliminates mandates?
I don't think 0 is likely.
Still not sure why you were under that impression. I'm disappointed that the effectiveness wears off as quick as it did but even before vaccines rolled out there was worry that anti-bodies after infection would wear off and reinfection was possible. 6 months was billed as worst case scenario and it came true and it was suspected to apply with vaccines as well and it's now a reality. With the Delta variant it's even more understandable the effectiveness would be less (although still just as disappointing). But there was so much unknown, any certainty about effectiveness would have been completely naive.
Here is an article from nature published in 2020 about concerns how about how long the vaccine would remain effective
www.nature.com
I also don't like the idea of needing a booster shot but I'll probably get mine in mid September to get me through the winter. (My 2nd shot was in February). I also want to take an anti-body test before the booster because I am taking an immune suppressed and I'm curious where I'm at.
Here is an article from nature published in 2020 about concerns how about how long the vaccine would remain effective
What Pfizer’s landmark COVID vaccine results mean for the pandemic
Scientists welcome the first compelling evidence that a vaccine can prevent COVID-19. But questions remain about how much protection it offers, to whom and for how long.
www.nature.com
I also don't like the idea of needing a booster shot but I'll probably get mine in mid September to get me through the winter. (My 2nd shot was in February). I also want to take an anti-body test before the booster because I am taking an immune suppressed and I'm curious where I'm at.
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If by some reason you lose it, all you have to do is go where you got vaccinated and they will give you a new one.
The only effective mask types are N95’s and, to a lesser degree, surgical masks.
That’s it.
Everything else is for show.
That’s it.
Everything else is for show.
I'm pretty conservative but I also work in the ICU and see good people who decided against the vaccine suffer and die every day. It's terrible.. Really sad.
I broke down and installed the Clear app. Its useless. It says whatever you input.
Now I am just waiting for the first hack to have my identity stolen like a complete fool.
Now I am just waiting for the first hack to have my identity stolen like a complete fool.
The Clear app?
Aside from possibly speeding up the process to confirm vaccination status, it is pretty useless.
First time I came across it, was in Arizona attending the Knights v Coyotes.
You download the app. You took a selfie. You answered three or four questions. Something to the effect.
1) Do you have a fever
2) Have you been in contact with someone who was Covid positive.
3) Have you had any of the following symptoms
Etc.
You then showed your selfie to the ticket person and in you went.
Do you really think people that have paid upwards of $300-$500 dollars for a ticket are going to answer those questions honestly?
Now you can download your proof of vaccination on it. Which like I said should speed things up at the gate. vs people digging for their vaccination cards. That's about all it does. We are seeing increasing breakthrough cases in vaccinated people. CDC has even said, vaccinated people (I am) can still spread it to others vaccinated or not.
The Clear App only shows the data put in it.
It doesn't detect Covid. Or protect anybody. For all intents and purposes it is pretty useless in the grand scheme of things.
I can walk up and show my vaccination card and accomplish the same thing.
Tinder app will have as much impact at battling Covid as the Clear app.
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Honest question...
The Garth Brooks concert was over a month ago. Has there been massive contact tracing back to that event?
Anybody know?
Seen any stories or articles etc?
I can't find any.
The Garth Brooks concert was over a month ago. Has there been massive contact tracing back to that event?
Anybody know?
Seen any stories or articles etc?
I can't find any.
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I haven’t read anything about outbreaks following his concert or about the 300,000+ people concert in Chicago around that same time.
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