Northern Illinois out, North Dakota St. in?

[Bullmastiff 1]

Thats interesting that the Pac 2 is going to target Sac St before they secure enough teams to have a conference. I mean i get the commitment Sac St. is selling but I dont think theyll help them fast enough. So theyre going to have to add a team that they simply do not want.

There isn't a school left that they want that they can get.

AAC/Memphis seems all but dead.

The last MWC school they wanted said no.

Hawaii would have been a really smart play for them but they turned their noses up at them.

The next addition is likely a survival choice. Nothing more.

 

[InZoneU]

We aren't getting much. up to 14 mil up front, if we get all of the poaching fees, then 1.5-1.8 above the media value. If we add a couple of nothing schools, that could drop the base media value a good amount. If we have to pay to upgrade a lower level school that could easily drop the up front money we have. So adding schools that drop value, it cost UNLV millions

Yeah I just completely disagree. I think UNLV AD has done exactly the right thing for once and pretty sure they haven't put us in a position to "lose millions'

 

[rebswin2]

There isn't a school left that they want that they can get.

AAC/Memphis seems all but dead.

The last MWC school they wanted said no.

Hawaii would have been a really smart play for them but they turned their noses up at them.

The next addition is likely a survival choice. Nothing more.

Agree, the only thing that made any sense was to create the best conference with the schools for both conferences or willing to join that weren’t part of either. Now there are two irrelevant conferences that together would be not great by any means but a lot less irrelevant than they both are.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Their TV markets may suck. But they'd be more competitive adds to the MWC than a SacSt or NMSU.

Even there NDSU might have more reach than NMSU.

Sacramento massive markets but nobody gives a damn like San Jose.

 

[dcut03]

Yeah I just completely disagree. I think UNLV AD has done exactly the right thing for once and pretty sure they haven't put us in a position to "lose millions'

This has nothing to do with our AD, we are talking about the MW adding additional schools at this point.

If we add 2 FCS schools. That will cost us 10 mil to upgrade them. So that is 10 million dollars that the MW will not have to pay us our increased share. We are not guaranteed any specific amount from our agreement from staying, it is a percentage of the available funds of the fees we are getting from the PAC.

In additional to costing the conference 10 million extra dollars it will not be able to disperse. ( Our 24.5% willl be 2.45 million), our base media value will drop per team. Any FCS team will likely be a worse media value than our worse current MW team. So that will drop our per team payout, which could easily be 1-1.5 million per year.

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

This has nothing to do with our AD, we are talking about the MW adding additional schools at this point.

If we add 2 FCS schools. That will cost us 10 mil to upgrade them. So that is 10 million dollars that the MW will not have to pay us our increased share. We are not guaranteed any specific amount from our agreement from staying, it is a percentage of the available funds of the fees we are getting from the PAC.

In additional to costing the conference 10 million extra dollars it will not be able to disperse. ( Our 24.5% willl be 2.45 million), our base media value will drop per team. Any FCS team will likely be a worse media value than our worse current MW team. So that will drop our per team payout, which could easily be 1-1.5 million per year.

Yes adding ND just waters down what we will end up getting. Adding them makes no sense I don't care how good they are.

 

[1Tripoda]

I can't remember exactly what the SBC media deal is worth, I want to say something like 1.5? Maybe 2 mil million per school?

I'd make another run at Texas State.
I think you kick the tires on Sac State as well.
You already have UTEP so no need for NMSU since they are viewed as the same market.

MWC need one more Texas school. NDSU is a good add. I dont know about Sacramento State? It is too close to San Jose. NDSU might be a better add than Boise was back then relatively to now. Might be a better program.

 

[1Tripoda]

No question marks in my comments.

 

[Rebel1986]

Yes adding ND just waters down what we will end up getting. Adding them makes no sense I don't care how good they are.

The MWC is looking out for their future not that of UNLV. The ultimate goal of UNLV is to leave the MWC for the Big12 or other, so they need to plan for their future without putting their head in the sand with the hope UNLV stays. The push for ticket sales in the second level of the next two games, and the discounted ticket deals for UNLV football season ticket holders shows they are making an all out effort to hi-light UNLV football!

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Yes adding ND just waters down what we will end up getting. Adding them makes no sense I don't care how good they are.

I kinda sort of agree.

Even though Fargo is a small market it's about the size of Las Cruces population wise. Unlike Las Cruces/NMSU NDSU likely would dominate that market and likely get some eyeballs from surrounding areas.

I'm good with it if isn't watering down the deal for remaining schools.

But to be honest, I actually don't care what any other schools in MWC make so long as UNLV continues to at least stay around current media deal.

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

The MWC is looking out for their future not that of UNLV. The ultimate goal of UNLV is to leave the MWC for the Big12 or other, so they need to plan for their future without putting their head in the sand with the hope UNLV stays. The push for ticket sales in the second level of the next two games, and the discounted ticket deals for UNLV football season ticket holders shows they are making an all out effort to hi-light UNLV football!

Yes except UNLV is a member and the MWC is supposed to act in the interest of its members. Not in the interest of the President keeping her job. This dilutes everyone’s share not just UNLV

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

I kinda sort of agree.

Even though Fargo is a small market it's about the size of Las Cruces population wise. Unlike Las Cruces/NMSU NDSU likely would dominate that market and likely get some eyeballs from surrounding areas.

I'm good with it if isn't watering down the deal for remaining schools.

But to be honest, I actually don't care what any other schools in MWC make so long as UNLV continues to at least stay around current media deal.

I think the surrounding area would have to include the entirety of the Dakotas, Montana and more to make sense in terms of a media deal.

 

[RebelinWA]

I kinda sort of agree.

Even though Fargo is a small market it's about the size of Las Cruces population wise. Unlike Las Cruces/NMSU NDSU likely would dominate that market and likely get some eyeballs from surrounding areas.

I'm good with it if isn't watering down the deal for remaining schools.

But to be honest, I actually don't care what any other schools in MWC make so long as UNLV continues to at least stay around current media deal.

No offense to San Marcos and Texas State University; but there is no comparison that NDSU is far better. NDSU has been dominant not just in their conference, but for all of FCS. They gave Colorado a scare this year.

Would they win the MW? No. But its a program with “metric” success, established loyalty, and a metropolitan area three times of San Marcos. NEITHER program moves the needle for media deal. But I’ll take the better football team.

Remember that Eastern Washinton team that beat UNLV 35-33 in 2021? That same year NDSU smashed them 42-20. NDSU is 9-4 against FBS teams, including beating 13th ranked Iowa on the road in 2016.

 

[jmcnamaraiii]

North Dakota is central time zone and your getting most of state for the TV market.

Has similar back in the day Boise vibes.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

North Dakota is central time zone and your getting most of state for the TV market.

Has similar back in the day Boise vibes.

I like this more than Tarleton. More I learn about Tarleton the more I get the interest but.

I like the idea of an established program. That has a little name recognition. NDSU fits that.