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I hope the boys make it back safely. Now it’s time to get better, so they can take full advantage of this easy schedule this year!
 
I hope the boys make it back safely. Now it’s time to get better, so they can take full advantage of this easy schedule this year!
Having an easy schedule is not something to take advantage of, it’s something to have to overcome when we’re talking about RPI. Just a ridiculously backwards approach to “improving”.
 
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Just win and things will take care of themselves!
You mean like Marv in his second year? The play nobody season, win 20 plus games and not sniff even the weakest of the alphabet soup tournaments?

Beating up on the numerous scrubs slated for the OOC at the Mack isn’t going to interest many.

Incredibly disappointing OOC.
 
You mean like Marv in his second year? The play nobody season, win 20 plus games and not sniff even the weakest of the alphabet soup tournaments?

Beating up on the numerous scrubs slated for the OOC at the Mack isn’t going to interest many.

Incredibly disappointing OOC.
Each and every team on our schedule may win their conference.. or the National Championship!

If you were a casual fan would you pay for any home games outside of Dayton and USF (this one is a maybe)?
 
You mean like Marv in his second year? The play nobody season, win 20 plus games and not sniff even the weakest of the alphabet soup tournaments?

Beating up on the numerous scrubs slated for the OOC at the Mack isn’t going to interest many.

Incredibly disappointing OOC.
It’s mind blowing because Kevin is a smart dude and what I thought was very anti-Menzies when it came to playing people.

What a huge disappointment.

It really makes no senses if you’ve followed college basketball the last 30 years. It’s almost a complete waste of time playing the schedule. They win the MWC tourney or they’re begging the NIT to take them with a pathetic RPI.
 
It’s mind blowing because Kevin is a smart dude and what I thought was very anti-Menzies when it came to playing people.

What a huge disappointment.

It really makes no senses if you’ve followed college basketball the last 30 years. It’s almost a complete waste of time playing the schedule. They win the MWC tourney or they’re begging the NIT to take them with a pathetic RPI.
Yep. Even with 22 wins (unless they win the regular conference title), it’s the MWCT or bust. You need some juice in those OOC wins, very little opportunity for that.
 
Curious why this is coming out now regarding a weak OOC schedule? When did UNLV come out with their OOC schedule? When did they sign the games for the OOC schedule?
 
You mean like Marv in his second year? The play nobody season, win 20 plus games and not sniff even the weakest of the alphabet soup tournaments?

Beating up on the numerous scrubs slated for the OOC at the Mack isn’t going to interest many.

Incredibly disappointing OOC.
Marv has nothing to do with this, let it go man!
 
I like this team, but they are going to take time to build chemistry, roles, expectations, etc. It is going to take time.
I don't like the schedule. HOWEVER, given where we are with this new team, a schedule like what was developed might be necessary.

I won't take any game for granted, and hopefully our UNLV Runnin Rebels will not either.
 
I like this team, but they are going to take time to build chemistry, roles, expectations, etc. It is going to take time.
I don't like the schedule. HOWEVER, given where we are with this new team, a schedule like what was developed might be necessary.

I won't take any game for granted, and hopefully our UNLV Runnin Rebels will not either.
A looong time ago I read in SI or some other sports mag that Denny Crum would always schedule a tough ooc to get his team ready for the ncaa tournament. I likened that to Tark's philosophy of practicing harder than any actual game would be to get his team ready for when it counts. I love that mindset. I don't think that playing push overs does anything for any team no matter the state of their roster, except give them a false sense of accomlishment. Sure getting blown out by 60 by a far superior team doesn't do much good either but this team should be able to hang with(not necessarily beat but keep it respectable) the top 40-80 teams.
 
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Wow! That UNLV OOC basketball schedule looks like we went back to Menzies putting the schedule together. It looks like UNLV is doing all they can to downsize the athletic department. Why would anyone want to go and watch UNLV play what equates to a junior college schedule?
 
Marv has nothing to do with this, let it go man!
No, but the scheduling this year is the same. I bitched about it when he put it together back then because it was horrible and it ripped off the fans and the team. Beating these weak ass teams to get win totals up is fake bullshit.

And it’s being done this year. Play someone. Beat someone. You can’t beat someone if you don’t play someone. And we play nobody. It’s flashback to year 2 of Marv. His “best year” which was a charade.
 
The schedule is disappointing. So bad, it makes me wonder why? I don't even know who some opponents are.

Best part? Parking and traffic at games will be a breeze.
Worst part? Back to reading about MM, the same things that have been written 1 000 times.
 
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Wow! That UNLV OOC basketball schedule looks like we went back to Menzies putting the schedule together. It looks like UNLV is doing all they can to downsize the athletic department. Why would anyone want to go and watch UNLV play what equates to a junior college schedule?
I don’t get it either. I can’t come up with any good explanations for why we are Menzying it up this upcoming season. It’s not like last season was some crazy hard schedule; it was about right, take a little. This thing looks like page 1 out of Menzies latest book, “How to fool morons”.
 
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I don’t get it either. I can’t come up with any good explanations for why we are Menzying it up this upcoming season. It’s not like last season was some crazy hard schedule; it was about right, take a little. This thing looks like page 1 out of Menzies latest book, “How to fool morons”.
Last years schedule was the perfect mix, should be the prime example to replicate OOC scheduling moving forward imo.. There was enough there to easily earn an at-large bid & even then some if you had a blunder/bad loss.. Granted, you need to acquire the talent to actually win those games to begin with..
 
Last years schedule was the perfect mix, should be the prime example to replicate OOC scheduling moving forward imo.. There was enough there to easily earn an at-large bid & even then some if you had a blunder/bad loss.. Granted, you need to acquire the talent to actually win those games to begin with..
Do you expect to be better overall than last year or worse?

I think we will be better than last year. Won’t be able to really tell by the results though because the teams are so weak.
 
You know, I feel better about this squad, I expect to be better as well.. I do think it’s going to take some time for everything to click.. I think getting Harkless/Vic back is going to be huge.. Also, the cupcake schedule will help these guys gain some confidence & learn to play together, hopefully enough strides are made before MWC play & we can really make things happen.. But like you said, we really don’t know..

My biggest concern, is with Cottrell.. I don’t know why his injury isn’t being reported.. Like I mentioned, if it’s a serious injury, we mite be in some serious trouble, especially come MWC play.. We just don’t have to the size/depth to compete with the top half imo..
 
I hope the boys make it back safely. Now it’s time to get better, so they can take full advantage of this easy schedule this year!
Any win is nice. Better than losing. UNLV is without two of its best player in Harkless and Victor Iwau....still win, it is nice.
 
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Wow! That UNLV OOC basketball schedule looks like we went back to Menzies putting the schedule together. It looks like UNLV is doing all they can to downsize the athletic department. Why would anyone want to go and watch UNLV play what equates to a junior college schedule?
It’s really sad and screams that the athletic director is purposely trying to lower expectations and kill the program. Can we EVER get a person in here that actual has competency and passion for this program?
 
No, but the scheduling this year is the same. I bitched about it when he put it together back then because it was horrible and it ripped off the fans and the team. Beating these weak ass teams to get win totals up is fake bullshit.

And it’s being done this year. Play someone. Beat someone. You can’t beat someone if you don’t play someone. And we play nobody. It’s flashback to year 2 of Marv. His “best year” which was a charade.
And we’ll also get the standard Jon Sandler fluff about a tough and very under rated schedule of opponents.

“Tonight the rebels are challenged by a very tough and gritty Univ of Life Pacific Bobcats. Should be an exciting one here at the Mack, Curtis!”

Crickets in the stands....
 
Very disappointed in the scheduling. Not trying to make excuses here but isn’t the schedule made more than a year in advance save a fill-in game or two? For example, I believe the USF game is the second half of a home & home series so that must have been originally scheduled in 2020. I’m not sure how much influence CKK had the the final schedule. Even AD Harper may not have had much to do with it given that he’s hasn’t been AD very long. Honestly wondering. It wouldn’t be fair to hang it entirely around CKK’s neck if we’re not sure whether he even made the final decisions.
 
The schedule is awful. No doubt about it.
The reasons or reasoning have not been shown.
Whatever, it is not the slate UNLV needs.

Now, since at least one poster has hung this on Harper, does it mean that there is first-hand knowledge?
Or did they just make it up?
If anyone wants to say that something definitely occurred, without anything more than supposition, they should at least say that.
Rumors on this board morph into "facts" much too easily.
 
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Any win is nice. Better than losing. UNLV is without two of its best player in Harkless and Victor Iwau....still win, it is nice.
If Vic is in the conversation for one of our best players, we are in trouble.. I look at him & KG as the same.. High energy, but no offense & uncontrolled defense.. KG still looks like a freshman trying to prove himself to me.. Not much progress, jumper/free throws look very suspect to me..
 
I have a lot of questions right now.. I know it’s early, but give me LuRod/Parquet/Harkless on the floor.. That trio will play winning ball, wish we had a front court to match.. We would be seriously looking at an at-large if that were the case..
 
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The other conference teams that I reviewed all play at least two power five teams. In order to play a power five team do we need to pay them? Why can’t we get a return game from UCLA? Do we have to play A tournament to get a shot at better quality teams? If so can we play a tournament annually or do we need to wait between tournaments.
I didn’t take the time to review the RPI of each team that each other conference team plays. But just as a quick perusal of schedules it appears that ours is worse than any other schedule in the league.
 
The other conference teams that I reviewed all play at least two power five teams. In order to play a power five team do we need to pay them? Why can’t we get a return game from UCLA? Do we have to play A tournament to get a shot at better quality teams? If so can we play a tournament annually or do we need to wait between tournaments.
I didn’t take the time to review the RPI of each team that each other conference team plays. But just as a quick perusal of schedules it appears that ours is worse than any other schedule in the league.
UNLV has fallen to the point where it’s a “bad loss” or unacceptable loss for a power. Which is tough. Previously, like under Kruger or Rice, the Rebels could bite you and it wasn’t a bad loss for the powers. Now the Rebels are pretty fangless vs powers … but in the event they get hot … it’s a loss you really don’t want. UNM was in a similar boat awhile back, especially with games in the Pit.

The MWC has usually scheduled terribly out of conference. All those 10-2, 11-1 records in the past that amounted to squat because they didn’t play anybody. Thompson should have done something about it … because how much more apparent does it need to become for him to realize our teams aren’t built for post season? Between really atypical officiating (atypical in regards to how post season is called) and playing a slew of nobodies out of conference, the MWC really weakens their chances for advancement.

And tbh, I don’t care how CSU or Wyoming or Boise schedule. UNLV should be scheduling tougher than those teams.
 
Kevin is taking his dad’s advice!
Lon wasn’t over aggressive with scheduling but it was relatively balanced. I’d have to look back.

And back then, you COULD grab some quality wins in conference with BYU and SDSU (which we lost all but the CT miracle game) … Louisville, Wisconsin, Arizona (I think, but that might have been under O’Neil when they struggled), at TTU (Bobby Knight) … I’m sure there’s more.

This was a page straight out of the Mensa book.
 
Lon wasn’t over aggressive with scheduling but it was relatively balanced. I’d have to look back.

And back then, you COULD grab some quality wins in conference with BYU and SDSU (which we lost all but the CT miracle game) … Louisville, Wisconsin, Arizona (I think, but that might have been under O’Neil when they struggled), at TTU (Bobby Knight) … I’m sure there’s more.

This was a page straight out of the Mensa book.
Ya, back then, you got; BYU, Utah, TCU & then UNM/SDSU were strong as well.. Plenty of opportunities for resume building wins.. MWC just isn’t the same, which is why we need that challenging OOC schedule.. I think we all agree on that.. When I reflect back on that old school MW, it really was turning into a decent conference before everyone jumped ship.. Sad, because there was some solid rivalries building as well..
 
It’s mind blowing because Kevin is a smart dude and what I thought was very anti-Menzies when it came to playing people.

What a huge disappointment.

It really makes no senses if you’ve followed college basketball the last 30 years. It’s almost a complete waste of time playing the schedule. They win the MWC tourney or they’re begging the NIT to take them with a pathetic RPI.
Maybe he is just focused on winning the MWC for once. Playing Kansas was every Rebel players checkmark game of the year -or was it UCLA - it doesn't matter. point is when it comes time for league play....meh... Now maybe they will get up for conference. He is making that the goal. Lets see if it works ??? If he wins the MWC this year reg season or tournament, then it will be worth it. If not then its shamefully weak -but whos even paying attention, even if we booked UCLA at home - nobody would show up anyways.
 
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Maybe he is just focused on winning the MWC for once. Playing Kansas was every Rebel players checkmark game of the year -or was it UCLA - it doesn't matter. point is when it comes time for league play....meh... Now maybe they will get up for conference. He is making that the goal. Lets see if it works ??? If he wins the MWC this year reg season or tournament, then it will be worth it. If not then its shamefully weak -but whos even paying attention, even if we booked UCLA at home - nobody would show up anyways.
I see your perspective.. But, I think the point being is, if you’re playing that higher level of competition, win or lose, we are more prepared for conference play/MWC tourney?? Not that we get an at-large-bid, but our odds are much higher for a tourney opportunity all around..
 
I see your perspective.. But, I think the point being is, if you’re playing that higher level of competition, win or lose, we are more prepared for conference play/MWC tourney?? Not that we get an at-large-bid, but our odds are much higher for a tourney opportunity all around..
and how has that perspective worked the last 20 years ? how many times have we won our league and how many times we danced. the same old formula is NOT working.
 
and how has that perspective worked the last 20 years ? how many times have we won our league and how many times we danced. the same old formula is NOT working.
We’ve danced 7x more than we’ve won league titles since 2000. 2 of those were NCAA quality teams that won the conference tournament for autos, all 7 would have had at larges. It shows that the schedule is vitally important.
 
I agree that this schedule is not what it should be. I do consider the possibility that we may not be aware of the factors that went into the slate.

Did Kevin simply attempt to water down the OC? Were there other reasons? Do we know? For sure? Or, just guesses? For whatever reason, it is what it is, and has made things more difficult in the long run.

But, again, I ask that we do not spend so much time looking backward. Different coach, different staff, different players, and even a different AD.

The current. staff should not have to wear the mistakes of folks who have been gone for years, imho.
 
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