Jason The Litigator Kelly, Joe Arrigo, and Mike Cooper. Who will have the best UNLV content? Good opinions and points of view from all. May the best man win.
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Two of those mentioned above are full of shit! They have no inside info and use AI to write their content. BUMS!
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Let the battle begin.
Yikes. Who is the other person that uses AI?
He will not tweet for a couple of days and return like nothing happened
One is a lawyer so it’s pretty easy who the other AI user is.
L O L. Talk about mailing it in. The only actual "content" of a 100% AI article is what, his name?
Jason's content is pretty good, its fan driven conversation. Mike provides good discussion on X. I dont read the other...
Wait are all the contributing 'writers' actually AI generated and not real people?
Jason seems like his intentions are pure, but I just find myself not agreeing with a lot of his takes.
Which....is fine. Not everyone has to agree on everything. I wanted to like him more, but he's just not my cup of tea.
Which....is fine. Not everyone has to agree on everything. I wanted to like him more, but he's just not my cup of tea.
Wish we had personal computers when I was in college. Best we had for AI was a case of beer.
That's what is being said on X... I got no horse in the race, but the X thread on this seems to imply that there is a lack of evidence those writers are real.
I do actually have to pass the bar first next month before im officially a Lawyer.
Constructive criticism is wanted and needed. Appreciate yall!
I genuinley want my content to be a welcoming place for all rebel fans.
Constructive criticism is wanted and needed. Appreciate yall!
I genuinley want my content to be a welcoming place for all rebel fans.
This is why so many graduate come out of college with honors, but they are totally useless in the real world. Computers can do so much that most of these graduates can't even think for themselves, and to ask them to think outside of the box is an impossibility! I spent many year hiring graduates in engineering and technical fields to work for my past employers and for my own companies, and found that most of them couldn't do basic engineering problems when put to a real world test, and I have also found the same problems with those in other related and unrelated fields.
Honestly not a bad thing.
Sometimes we knee-jerk react to something.
Then after getting more facts / info perspective changes.
Early on I thought UNLV was making a horrible decision not joining the PAC.
Now at least fiscally it looks like it might have been the right call. At least in the short term.
I mean, dont we all as fans... we want what's best for our school, and sometimes that means being passionate about something. You can be wrong and still be a good fan and talk about sports... except me, never been wrong about anything on here before 😂😂😂😂
I mean. I the dude that is the UNLV SI writer is 10000% AI. It's almost sad to read those articles.
Guys like Greg Biggins, Brandon Huffman (my fellow VHS homie) and Pete Fiutak and some others that have been in the game for so long. Those are the dudes to listen to. All 3 of those guys also have always covered UNLV through the years when there was no reason to cover UNLV
Guys like Greg Biggins, Brandon Huffman (my fellow VHS homie) and Pete Fiutak and some others that have been in the game for so long. Those are the dudes to listen to. All 3 of those guys also have always covered UNLV through the years when there was no reason to cover UNLV
My love for the Rebels never changes!
I feel awful about the Pastner stuff though. I deserve all the criticism in the world for that.
The PAC stuff I stand by, still a big ole mistake, but I'm a fan, I'm not going to stop supporting the school and lobbying for the outcome that is best for the school just because I disagree with the school.
I thought maybe theyd change course. I was wrong.
I think they have a path, but I still disagree with the choice.
Is what it is, going to make the best choice.
We do need the media deal for the MW, and the outcome of litigation to know for sure about whether it was fiscally the right choice,
however
I think it's likely that at least in payouts, they'llo end up with more flexibility and capital, but we dont actually know that until the terms of the litigation are released, and the media deals are announced.
We discussed before, and that's been my stance for a bit now. Until we know the particulars its hard to say one way or another.
MWC deal probably takes a hit.
Comes in around 3 million. But UNLV gets 1.5 ish per as compensation so worst case its about break even.
It the bulk payout that Im most interested in. Having 20 or more million in liquid capital is not a bad place to be.
PAC could very well make some amazing move at the last second. Who knows.
But there's this weird chicken or the egg thing going on with Twitter 'pundits'..
PAC can't make moves until mediation is over. OK, then why did they attempt to grab Memphis/Tulane prior to mediation knowing they were going to litigate the poaching fees.
You then see people chime in saying the 8th addition will be made after media deal is announced.
Which again, makes sense except wouldn't a media partner want to know who that is to determine the value of the overall product?
And if what SDSU AD said was true that no future additions help the media deal value then it feels like they are more in settle for mode than out there big game hunting.
Purely a guess, and willing to admit I'm wrong.
I wanna know the payouts from the mediation.
The MW deal won't be below 3.5 million. Fewer members means more slices of the pie, the additions are fine.
I think its like a 4 million to 4.5 million media deal.
But if
1. That's it, we don't get the extra money on top of the media deal
2. we dont get the lump sum of 14 million in liquid cash
It's not a great outcome.
The outcome of the litigation is everything.
How much of the promise by the MW are we entitled to.
The agreement we signed states that the outcome of the litigation doesn't change our commitment to the MW.
So if we end up with less money than we woulda gotten in the PAC, which could happen, and we have is that zero exit fee thing, then it was not worth it.
I don't disagree.
But.
According to San Diego Tribune the departing MWC schools will likely be looking for bridge loans that could reach 12 million dollars because the MWC is withholding media and basketball unit payouts for last season and upcoming season.
So at minimum it was going to cost UNLV around 12 million to get out of the MWC to begin with.
Could UNLV survive on zero media revenue for two seasons?
I don't know.
I'm with you I don't like the uncertainty of the payout and UNLV absolutely should have negotiated a set 'minimum' with escalators based on any settlement.
I 'm not sure MWC breaks even on last media deal.
True fewer mouths to feed but you lost top end markets in CSU/SDSU and top brand in Boise.
SJSU and UNM TV numbers are poor when not facing P4 opposition.
SJSU is particularly bad considering the size of the market.
I think Hawai getting out of Spectrum deal will help some.
The primary value for MW schools outside of Boise has always been the timeslot we play in. Pacific and Mountain are valuable.
That didn't change with the school's leaving.
It's 2-3 schools smaller, depending on how you count Hawaii schools, smaller than the old conference was, the MW media deal wont get smaller than it was, its pretty much impossible and will likely be higher.
I also just think UNLV and Air force held the MW together period. If one left, the other might go. UNLV to PAC air force to the AAC.
There should not be two conferences on the west coast like this, its a market inefficiency.
Both conferences existing like this really damages the other.
I think UNLV had the power to cut the MW's legs out from under it, and we should have.
If they got a bridge loan that wasn't required to be paid off as a lump sum, they could have done it, and I think pretty comfortably, as long as the loan terms werent to harsh.
One last thing about all this...
For all the talk of PAC superiority...
Yes basketball it is a much better conference.
Couple things with football.
A depleted AFA squad dog walked PAC flagship program OSU 31-0. Beat SDSU. Beat Fresno.
The PAC2 with all their bluster went 2-4 vs MWC leftovers.
UNLV spanked everybody not named Boise by an average margin of 20 points.
Hell UNM Beat a ranked WSU when WSU still had a ton to play for.
Is the PAC better. Yeah history says it is...
But you think WSU/FSU are overly excited about having to go the FCS route to find head coaches? SDSU could be looking at another sub. 500 season. Fresno has a ton of question marks. USU? Should bounce back some with Bronco but hardly a lock for a bowl. OSU had a solid recruiting class and should be better.
So yeah they are better.
But for all the chest thumping they do its not like its some juggernaut football conference.
OSU/WSU are entering a world of having to compete at probably a third of what they once made. Its impossible for them to recruit at the level they once did.
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Ultimately, the PAC has Boise and the MW does not.
It also has schools that, over time, have performed better, but Boise is the difference.
I dont hate the new MW in football, but the only reason we had a shot at the CFP last year was because we had an oppontent in Boise to beat.
Were losing that opportunity
Maybe.
But who's Boise's 'UNLV' in the PAC? Or signature in conference win opportunity?
USU? FSU? SDSU? CSU?
It kind of works both ways no?
The absolute funniest outcome in all of this would be OSU getting a P4 invite and saying peace out...
I am not so sure that CSU and SDSU are really top markets currently?
Colorado is by far the #1 college in Colorado, and is located in Boulder, Colorado which is in the metro area of Denver. The Air Force academy is located in Colorado Springs which has a metro population of almost 800,000 and is home to five major military bases: (Fort Carson, Peterson Space Force Base, Schriever Space Force Base, the AF Academy and Cheyenne Mountain Space Force Base. The Air Force also has a world wide following on Armed Forces radio and TV. Colorado Springs is located about 1 hr outside of Denver. Colorado State is located in Pueblo with a population of 110,000, is located about 2 hours from Denver with the closest city being Colorado Springs. There are without question the ugly stepchild to University of Colorado, and on a national basis also significantly behind Air Force. I really don't believe CSU has much potential for market growth being located in a similar situation to Washington State which is also located in a small town.
SDSU had the perfect storm in regards to coaches from 2009-2019 with Brady Hoke (first time) and Rocky Long. It showed up in the fact they averaged 30-40K fans per season during most of that time period, but between losing Long and moving into the new stadium, they dropped from an attendance of nearly 40K to about 25K the last few years. For the PAC it isn't a good thing that they have gone 7-17 the last two seasons, and the by far best attended game last season was verse Hawaii with over 31K. No other game was over about 26K. San Diego is a town that has even more distractions than Las Vegas, and currently the team is in a dumpster fire. I am just hoping that SDSU has another bad year!
BSU I agree owns Boise, and is without question the top brand in the new PAC, that is why it is so important that UNLV wins against them this year. The perfect storm would be for SDSU to have another bad year, and BSU to lose to UNLV either once if they do not meet in the championship game or twice if they both get there. Since the timing of the contract no longer matters, my expectation is that the TV contract will not be finalized until the next season is already underway, or maybe even after the season has ended.
Extra frosting would be for both Washington State and Oregon State to struggle next season!
The thing about both conferences is that bad programs will still be propped up by beating other bad programs. Remember CSU last yr complaining that wed got to play Boise when they had similar conference records despite neither playing Boise or UNLV.. CSU was an average team with an inflated record. We will see alot of that- mediocre program with inflated records of like 8-5 or 9-3 but with wins against bad teams like Reno and SDSU... which is what the Pac tried to cut and instead they added 4 MWC programs that have had pockets of good and winning play but are declining or over-rated...
I don't disagree with the majority of this.
Most conferences fall into a top/middle/bottom third type pattern.
100% true that SDSU/USU in particular are struggling.
Where I see the difference between the new 'PAC' schools and remaining MWC schools is floors and ceilings and willingness to invest.
SDSU is down but they've had really good runs in the not so distant past. Thry've also shown a willingness to invest.
Fresno is Fresno.
CSU has poured money into programs the last few years.
SJSU does next to nothing. Its amazing what Brennan did there and what Ken did last season. SJSU should not struggle like it does, but apathy surrounds that program. Nobody cares.
UNM. They love them some basketball but football is a complete after thought. 14k attendance while playing a ranked WSU team and having arguably the most dynamic QB in the conference is just sad.
Reno appears to be going the UNM route and focusing more on basketball.
The PAC is not without its issues. And I 100% think they have an unrealistic view of how good they are, but top to bottom its better and those schools have shown a willingness to invest that majority of remaining MWC schools really haven't shown consistently.
The Rebel fan community has everything. Theres a scammer writing articles and using AI (Perhaps he lost his passion for writing because Dan Mullen and his staff did not fall for his kiss-ass antics and denied him access), Jason the Litigator, who the athletic department hates (and he knows this), Michael Cooper, a reasonable fan and solid writer, but aligns himself with Coach Hurst who is not a coach at all.
For the record, I appreciate Jason the Litigators enthusiasm and Michael's level-headedness. Both are needed in the Rebel community. If you two are reading this, I love you.
For the record, I appreciate Jason the Litigators enthusiasm and Michael's level-headedness. Both are needed in the Rebel community. If you two are reading this, I love you.
You got any news on any fronts that you can share these days?
Any leaks or word on the PAC/MW negotiations?
Word on how the hoops team is looking so far?
Word on how football is looking?
Cant say I have much to add to these conversations besides the basketball team is a collection of the most athletic group you guys have had ever. I know the old heads will come for me for that comment. The football team is very dialed in and I can say that there are people in Boise and on their staff that are concerned. Zero clue on conference realignment.
