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Jordan Reed Visit WR/ Plant High School Florida

Wow, I have not ever seen a player faster ...He is fast.
This post was edited on 12/29 6:52 PM by 1Tripoda
 
Does anyone know how much room we have in this class, or how many are able to sign? I noticed did not sign 25 last years class and wondering if any could be applied from there also.
 
Jordan Reed 5'10 165
Stats: 26 rec 244 yards 9.4 avg 5 tds (25 car 174 yards 7.0 avg 2 tds) 21.7 avg kick return

You have this kid in your backyard carrying a 3.8 GPA and fully qualified

Andrew Peterson 5'10 170
(Combine timed) 4.37 40 4.19 shuttle 39 vj
Stats: 113 car 864 yards 7.6 avg 8 tds (6 rec 208 yards 34.6 avg 3 tds)

Joke version of recruiting following the failed ideas of the past and chasing of kids extremely distant regions of the nation that likely won't stick around to graduate.



Andrew Peterson
 
Will, I don't have near the knowledge of local recruiting that you do. Why is Peterson only being pursued by FCS schools? I would love for the roster to be stacked with locals as would you.

Also do you really stand by your blanket statement of this staffs "joke" recruiting based off of one visit announcement? Find that a little harsh this early in the process.
 
Recruiting can be interesting to say the least and many moving parts. Things can change quickly. I know my son early in summer was getting ton of interest from FBS schools, and right as an offer was coming multiple times, coach moved on to pros or in couple of cases was let go.
 
Vegas is only accessible to 10-20% of FBS schools due to recruiting budgets. Most of the FBS schools beyond the Pac 10 and MWC can't recruit the area. Also, instate tuition allow team to stretch the budget before traveling outside the borders.
The route they are starting off I will call joke recruiting. A 6'0 junior college center and the national search for marginal talent when you have better options within your borders that are high end players.
Sanchez isn't a local guy and I feel he berated the local talent during his time at Gorman with the statement he couldn't find competition.
The success of Gorman was more due to being able to fill holes in the roster with transfers players that were treating the program as a prep school rather than high school.
They had a clear advantage that had nothing to do lack of competition, they stacked the deck creating an uneven field and 90% of the success of the program wasn't based on raw coaching.
I will see how it unfolds but I feel he will ignore the factors as to why he won and write off local talent to the detriment of the program.
I understand him going after the lineman from the program he coached in California prior to getting the Gorman job but there isn't a buzz in town about players he has targeted locally including some of the kids from Gorman.
I don't want to see a return of the days this team barely looked like a college program.
You can talk assistant coaches all day but they only sign on for a year at a time, if they fail they will be off to another program tomorrow with another notch on the resume.
If there is a great talent you find, you have go go after them.
The majority of local kids standing out like Devonte Boyd, Kerwynn Williams, Juron Criner, Donell Pumphery, etc were kids that barely were recruited. That the norm in Vegas despite producing elite players every year.
 
I guess he must not be able to coach since all he did was win a national championship and get picked as HS coach of the year.
 
He is a very good coach but the Gorman team this year had five key transfers that were already on the national radar that made them nearly impossible to match up with. Four other previous transfers also were on the roster.
Getting through the regional non-conference schedule beating Bingham(UT) in overtime and Centennial(CA) with a last minute two point conversion was impressive. I don't feel either game would have been close, however, if he they hadn't loaded up with transfers during the summer.
Locally, the program plays a public high school schedule with a prep school built team that created a stacked deck. Even with that, minus the transfers this years team likely wouldn't have won the state title.
I want Sanchez to be successful, its been painful to be a UNLV fan. I don't want to see the team go backwards and this team should be focused on Nevada first with California, Utah and Arizona kids filling out the roster.
If he goes national with this recruiting class, he will never earn the community support to sustain this program and I wouldn't be surprised to see him as the last coach to coach UNLV football.
 
So Will to summarize your take on the hiring of Sanchez and the program, if the first Visit had been a local, Program in great hands can't wait to see where we are headed....

First visit, only based off of twitter, from a kid from Florida, Sanchez will be the last coach of UNLV as we all watch the programs demise?

Did I get that correct or was that too dramatic? Just trying to get where you are coming from because since day one of the Sanchez hire you have gone out of your way to poke holes in any bit of information about the program, Staff, recruiting roughly 1 month into this thing.

Your insight into the local football scene is wonderful but your views have really skewed recently, I am just trying to get a better take where you are coming from.
 
Obviously willevi just wants all his good ol' boys to get a free ride at UNLV--regardless if they're legit D1 talents or not. It's not Sanchez/UNLV's responsibility to give every kid in Vegas a D1 scholarship because they played H.S football here.

Then some bitterness about Gorman's inherent advantages over the rest of the H.S scene in Nevada. Are you a H.S coach willevi?

To be successful, you can't just limit your recruiting to the Las Vegas area. This isn't Texas, there isn't enough D1 talent in the valley to build a roster that's going to compete nationally. You need to recruit nationally and get the highest concentration of good players from around the country to compete nationally.

Las Vegas is a recruiting hotbed in basketball--much better talent pool in comparison to football. But can you imagine if Rice only recruited the Las Vegas area? No Vaughn, no Goodluck, no Morgan, No Cornish, No Doolin, No Mccaw, the list goes on and on.--and it takes alot fewer players to build a basketball team than a football team.

But Sanchez will lose the community if he doesn't give scholarships away to every kid playing high school in Vegas because he has a good GPA. This isn't charity. It's D1 football and it's a business. If UNLV wants to turn this thing around, it's going to have to recruit top talent around the country. What's not going to turn the program around is appeasing people like you with a skewed POV.

This post was edited on 12/30 10:41 AM by rebelworks91
 
I am concerned about the direction they may move when the quiet period ends.
I understood Hauck's recruiting and I never made a negative comment though his in game decisions were rough. That said, this program moved forward physically under Hauck despite the win/loss record. There was a reason they went bowling a year ago but the APR issue hurt in a major way leading into the season.
I don't feel the program can survive can survive if it goes backwards from here. This is a team that has the talent in place to compete. If they start recruiting kids that won't invest in the program and, even worse, lose the current players; what will be the consequences when there is a lack of money to change direction.
I will avoid further negative observations but any fan that supports this program should demand more than fluff. UNLV should set the tone in local recruiting and not base their recruiting on who has offers from other teams.
They also should target legit athletes in the region (including Texas) that can excel for the program. We should be targeting walk on caliber players from other states with scholarships.
 
Under coach Hauck UNLV recruited the most local players in the history of the football program by a long shot.

Under coach Hauck UNLV football could only draw a little over 15,000 people per game even counting a good UNR crowd.

Under coach Hauck UNLV only won 2 games this year.

Under Robinson (prior to his wife going ill) he was able to bring in millions to build a major expansion (press box - and luxury suits) at the football stadium.

Under Robinson UNLV was able to get 30,000+ fans to the games during his bowl season.

Under Robinson UNLV did not recruit very many local kids.

While there are some local kids that can play at the D1 level, it is obvious that those numbers are not very large and that UNLV can't put most of their eggs into recruiting local kids until the level of local football improves.

In order for UNLV to improve Sanchez needs to recruit the best local kids that he can get (quality not quantity), go after the top level JC players to fill the gaps, and make an effort to out recruit the other programs in the MWC. Hopefully they have the funding and can show the recruits that UNLV will be putting money into new facilities so that they can recruit against the top MWC programs (i.e. Fresno St., UNR, BSU, Utah St., and SDSU). If they can recruit evenly with these programs, everything else will take care of itself.

What I expect/hope to see this season:

Average over 25,000 fans per game (you would think that is far fetched, but with UNLV playing UCLA, I think this is possible if UNLV can be competitive in first 3 games)

Have a recruiting class that is ranked in the top 80 instead of near the bottom of all FBS programs.

Win at least 4 games and would hope to see 6 wins. A lot to ask of a new college coach, but he does have a very good staff of asst. coaches.

Beat UNR

Upset at least one team this year besides UNR.
 
Of those first three games, isn't it awesome that Harbaugh is going to Michigan the year we go out there? The tough got tougher
 
Ty Flanagan, Jamell Garcia-Williams, Jabari Butler, Melvin Johnson, Andrew Peterson, Maliek Broady, Justin Polu, Nela Otukolo and the Gacutan twin should be playing Rebel football in the future minus a tough recruiting battle.
Al Lake, Josh Villaros, Preston Pavlica, Noah Tialavea, Nick Patrick and Jaren Campbell should be on the shortlist.
They will all be playing college football in the future and all are among the elite athletes in the region.
 
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